Congress Admits UFOs Not ‘Man-Made’...

Dhenalau

After years of revelations about strange lights in the sky, first hand reports from Navy pilots about UFOs, and governmental investigations, Congress seems to have admitted something startling in print: it doesn’t believe all UFOs are “man-made.”

Full article below

https://www.vice.com/en/article/3adadb/congress-admits-ufos-not-man-made-says-threats-increasing-exponentially

jolivmmx

I cannot remember to whom he was boasting, but Donald Trump claimed that the US had secret technology that we couldn’t even dream of…

Could this be a ploy to obfuscate the technology that the US possesses?

jolivmmx

Not to be overly cynical, but the timbre of the article seems to be “we need to shill the US finance department for more money for this secret project”

steddyeddy

Just to add that NASA have assembled a team of scientists to look at this and the next UFO report is due by October the 31st.

https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/10/25/landmark-ufo-study-begins-as-nasa-expert-panel-looks-into-unidentified-aerial-phenomena

A study organised by NASA into unidentified flying objects (UFOs) has begun, bringing together experts from across different scientific fields. 

UFOs, or what the US government calls "unidentified aerial phenomena" (UAP), have been the source of intrigue for decades.

Now an official panel convened by the US space agency will focus on unclassified sightings and other data collected from civilian government and commercial sectors.

It is made up of 16 members, and includes retired NASA astronaut and test pilot Scott Kelly.

thefallingman

is there anyone that doesn't believe in ufo's and aliens, the evidence is hard to refute at this stage

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119803989#Comment_119803989

Evidence of aliens?

thefallingman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119804546#Comment_119804546

who was flying the tic tac ufo and others recorded by the navy with g force a human couldn't withstand ?

silliussoddius

Where was this g force measured?

Ninthlife

Based on the speed, trajectory and manoeuvres witnessed it was assumed that the G Force involved, were it capable to be done by a known aircraft, would have been more than a conventional pilot could withstand.

Maverick, though?

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119804812#Comment_119804812

You'll have to excuse me for not accepting that aliens is the simplest explanation over human error. And as for US congress involvement, they have funded remote viewing in the past and the search for Noah's Ark. People linked to Robert Bigelow got lucky and just managed to successfully lobby politicians, there's no big reveal coming just a lot more of any day now.

purplefields

Consider how massively huge the universe is, and how tiny an amount of time humans have been around. The universe would have to be absolutely teeming with aliens for one of them to happen upon us.

So aliens manage to visit. Why do they fly around like that? They know we can see them, so why not introduce themselves?

Far more likely that humankind will extinct itself either through climate change or war, before aliens get a chance to visit. We will have been around a tiny shake of a lamb's tail.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119805022#Comment_119805022

They're also very considerate, they have flashing lights to comply with aviation authorities.

Ninthlife

I'm not saying its aliens but based on the reported accounts and these reports arent by average joes but highly trained aviators the objects are performing above known limits.

Aliens is one theory.

Misidentification is another

Top secret next gen technology another

The fact the US military are saying they cant determine who what or where they originate from does lead one to think of all types of scenarios.

The newly used term Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) does take away from the pop culture of UFO and aliens and phenomenon opens possibility of it being a natural event whereas object leads om yo think of it only being a craft.

These encounters arent new either, Peruvian air force and Iranian airforces have documented accounts of engagements with similar phenomenon back in the 70s

Re g-forces, aliens might have evolved technology with responsive gyroscopic/rotational cabins/capsules within craft which could counter g-forces to make the experience of sharply manoeuvring flight be a similar experience as with astronauts in spacecraft.

Ninthlife

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119805293#Comment_119805293

Thats assuming what is being seen is actually manned (or aliened) at all.

One theory out there when people talk of extraterrestrial beings is that the Grey alien thats always depicted when aliens are mentioned are actually just AI bots

Leg End Reject

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119805485#Comment_119805485

The strange thing is that none of these has ever crashed and been retrieved. Not to our knowledge anyway. But one would imagine if one crashed in the land of some farmer in USA said farmer or neighbours would take a picture or two and it would have ended up on social media if it happened in more recent times. The entities have had a lot of luck with their craft, if they have managed to understand and circumvent our weather etc they must be pretty darned advanced.

meepins

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119803989#Comment_119803989

I think the assumption there are other advanced species out there is completely reasonable but the 'evidence' being presented like the tic-tac video just feels like a psy-op.

greenspurs

please move this to Conspiracy Theories !!

The resident 'believers' would implode ....

😂🤣

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119807494#Comment_119807494

Would they give up flat earth, space fakery in return for aliens? I doubt it, they'd come up with some uber-story to combine it lest admit they were wrong about it.

Aliens definitely exist. It's doubtful they are here, but would love it to be true. The drop off in sightings and events since camera phones became ubiquitous is telling.

greenspurs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119807655#Comment_119807655

I meant the 'other' lot... 🙄

The same few that pile on anyone that dares post anything that doesnt suit their beliefs -

Theres no such thing as a true Con Theory .... None. Ever. What you read/hear is true, thats it.

😏

Count Dracula

I find it too difficult to believe that ET's would remain airborne for so long without attempting some sort of communication. Why is there no evidence of them landing and exploring either? Surely there would be numerous satellite images of unexplained landings in remote places? The top secret angle does not wash anymore, especially if congress is admitting that UFO's are plausible, this would allow other government agencies to massively increase their budgets if they could provide tangible evidence.

handlemaster

Why are Alien sightings more prevalent in the US ?

Damien360

I’ll leave this here

Count Dracula

This notion that ET's reckon we are too bad to touch is absolute garbage. It parallels human concept. For me there lies the ultimate proof that sightings and notions are entirely man made.

The notion that dramatically advanced aliens would share anything with the human lifeform is entirely naive. They either want to eat us or phuck us, lets' be honest about that for starters.....

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119807714#Comment_119807714

Only tin foilers say that. Conspiracies happen all the time but the only ones promoted by a certain type are the really outlandish ones. The kind that only they know the real story about, where the sheep are being manipulated and where they are involved in a massive struggle against nefarious forces. You know, the ones that are always wrong.

Dramatik

I don't think the grey alien is actually the final form, I think what people are seeing is either a being or robot in a futuristic spacesuit / hazmatsuit. Those big black eyes are actually protective goggles/lenses.

We would never step foot on a foreign planet without protective wear, nor would we operate on an extraterrestrial without it.

If these aliens are so technically advanced, I'm sure they'd be pretty handy at making ai robots and drones as well, not just spacecraft. So chances are they wouldn't even risk sending a live being, also if these craft were inhabited with robots they would probably be able to handle these extreme G forces a lot better than a living being.

Just look at our own space missions, we have transitioned to more remote operated missions, rather than sending humans up there. So I'm leaning towards remotely operated drones with ai robots as an explanation for all this.

saabsaab

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119807852#Comment_119807852

Are they? Per head of population. Reports come from all over the world . As the UFOs being ET such sights have been witnessed since the dawn of history. Perhaps we share the Earth/Solar System with them? Could they be some form of natural phenomenon or creature.

Count Dracula

Agreed, if we are being stalked by intergalactic robots it is going to be very very sore.

I would say the arse burn off alien titanium will smell rough for starters. A bad mix altogether.

Rough ride all said.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119808606#Comment_119808606

But this isn’t based on evidence, rather lack of evidence of what people are seeing actually is.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119807852#Comment_119807852

More people, better telescopes.

Mister Vain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119807852#Comment_119807852

More rednecks.

Akrasia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058260131/congress-admits-ufos-not-man-made

They're right.

Some UFOs are Ducks

Others are Venus

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119807852#Comment_119807852

Its what they do between sessions of riding their sisters, look to the skies and hallucinate.

Also,its just big and populous. And it has among the most advanced military aviation development in the World.

I don't know about you, but if I saw this overhead the Nevada desert, by chance, passing by at over 3,500 kph back in 1964, when it first flew, I'd think the Little Green Men were paying us a visit and all....

Riddle101

Congress Admits UFOs Not ‘Man-Made,’ Says ‘Threats’ Increasing ‘Exponentially’

What threats?

Has there ever been an incident reported where a UFO could be considered threatening or dangerous to national security?

Ninthlife

There are incidents documented both in the US and Russia where UAPs were sighted over nuclear weapon facilities and that through no human intervention systems used to launch missiles were activated.

Could be a reference to similar incidents

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119810672#Comment_119810672

Mad thing about that pic is you can see the fuel leaking from the wing tanks. The fuel was specially developed for the SR71 to have a low flashpoint because of heating of the airframe when going full steam. You could drop a lighted match into the stuff and it would just go out. The outer skin that you can see in that pic too is corrugated in places with large panel gaps where fuel would leak out. However at full speed the heat would make the whole thing expand and the corrugations would flatten out and seal the panels.

The other mad thing is it used a lot of titanium in construction. The problem being at the time that the Soviet Union/Russia had most of the world's supply, so the Americans set up shell companies to buy the titanium from the USSR. To build planes that would spy on them.

And like you said if you caught a glimpse of one in the early sixties... Or the drone version from the same time.

Cheerful S

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119810777#Comment_119810777

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakenheath-Bentwaters_incident

In the 1980s, it held nuclear weapons.

An actual live recording of the military encountering some of the unknown is shown here. During the investigation, the deputy commander of the base pressed record on his tape recorder. When some objects appeared, beams of light started to shine down onto the ground

Later events.. A triangle-shaped craft landed and a bigger one hovered over the hangar, dropping a beam onto the hangar. The truth is as is, they were seeking out the most destructive weapons available to mankind for some reason?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq1U0fQu-Ko&ab_channel=LeGnosticismeuniversel

silliussoddius

Didn’t someone see an alien hovering around the ship?

20Wheel

what do you mean 'admits'.

like theres someone to blame.

greenspurs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119808468#Comment_119808468

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119809288#Comment_119809288

here we go ...

Another thread to leave ....

Dramatik

I'm just speculating based on my own memory of waking up to 4 grey aliens operating on my stomach. Was it real? was it a dream? I couldn't tell you.

Being heavily sedated with powerful drugs after an operation has many similarities with dreaming, both exude a peripheral haze/blur and a difficulty in recalling memories. If you are unaware that you have been sedated in the first place how can you tell if you are dreaming or not?

I do find it strange that so many people have these similar memories however we do have evidence of other dreams that are commonly dreamt such as looking in the mirror and seeing your teeth falling out etc.

Dramatik

Double post

Dohnjoe

Reading the original article which mentions:

“cross-domain transmedium threats to the United States national security are expanding exponentially.” from the report

When looking at the full context:

At a time when cross-domain transmedium threats to United 
States national security are expanding exponentially, the 
Committee is disappointed with the slow pace of DoD-led efforts 
to establish the office to address those threats and to replace 
the former Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force as required 
in Section 1683 of the National Defense Authorization Act for 
Fiscal Year 2022. The Committee was hopeful that the new office 
would address many of the structural issues hindering progress. 
To accelerate progress, the Committee has, pursuant to Section 
703, renamed the organization formerly known as the 
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force and the Aerial Object 
Identification and Management Synchronization Management Group 
to be the Unidentified Aerospace-Undersea Phenomena Joint 
Program Office. That change reflects the broader scope of the 
effort directed by the Congress. Identification, 
classification, and scientific study of unidentified aerospace-
undersea phenomena is an inherently challenging cross-agency, 
cross-domain problem requiring an integrated or joint 
Intelligence Community and DoD approach. The new Office will 
continue to be led by DoD, with a Deputy Director named by the 
Intelligence Community. The formal DoD and Intelligence 
Community definition of the terms used by the Office shall be 
updated to include space and undersea, and the scope of the 
Office shall be inclusive of those additional domains with 
focus on addressing technology surprise and ``unknown 
unknowns.'' Temporary nonattributed objects, or those that are 
positively identified as man-made after analysis, will be 
passed to appropriate offices and should not be considered 
under the definition as unidentified aerospace-undersea 
phenomena.

Hard to take that seriously. If I was working in the DoD I'd be pushing for that gig as well.

As for this line:

“Temporary nonattributed objects, or those that are positively identified as man-made after analysis, will be passed to appropriate offices and should not be considered under the definition as unidentified aerospace-undersea phenomena,” - AKA not man-made, such as natural phenomena

Thousands of unidentified ghost sightings, these could be a threat to national security, they should also setup an unidentified terrestrial phenomena task group in the DoD, with a nice budget and good pension.

ceadaoin.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119812415#Comment_119812415

That sounds extremely similar to the rendlesham forest incident