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Can Sinn Fein fix the housing crisis or is it beyond them or anybody else?

  • 20-08-2022 12:15am
    Registered Users Posts: 4,548 ✭✭✭skimpydoo

    We have a serious housing problem that is over 10 years old and FG and their current BFF's FF have not being able to put a dent in it and fix it. Can Sinn Fein fix it? Or is it too foooked to be dealt with?

    I hope Sinn Fein can do something but I fear maybe all that can be done is damage limitation. Am I right?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers

    There is a problem if we return to large scale government build accommodation and its something not much talked about.

    The policy around social housing being integrated with new housing development has reduced the size, scale and level of poorer areas in many places.

    If the gov builds loads of social housing together its essentially building another ghetto for the want of another word.

    What the current policy has done is essentially spread out the poor people in middle income areas and in the long term its better for society, that said it has down sides.

    So i would be weary of a party policy advocating large scale social housing as a solution to the housing crisis because it can create another issue.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel

    Home ownership is at 70%

    How is that a "very small percentage of people in society"?

    The majority of new houses built are been bought by people to live in, not by rental companies etc that some people would have you believe.

    Yes we have a housing crisis and we need more houses but trying to say home ownership is a very small percentage in Ireland is totally incorrect

  • Registered Users Posts: 832 ✭✭✭thinkabouit

    How would they fix it?

    The only thing that can sort the housing crisis is county councils start building again imo

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,037 ✭✭✭CorkRed93

    My point is that I do not think people are willing to make the sacrifices that it takes to afford to buy or pay for a home these days.

    oh we are back at it with this bullshit again. amazing this is whats rolled out time and again by people who dont have to worry about it.

  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011

    Maybe, just maybe, the best chance of solving this is my making tough decisions.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel

    Sorry but it is true, a lot of people sit back now and expect a "forever home" to be handed to them for free and if they don't get it then it is everyone else's fault.

    The way people go on you would expect nobody in Ireland has bought a house in the last 5 years, that anyone in their 20's hasn't been able to buy a house. Well that is not true. Houses are bought and sold everyday of the week to people of all ages.

    Yes we need more houses and yes the housing price needs to come down but that doesn't change the fact that houses are been built and based on recent reports the majority of these houses are been bought by people to live in.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,037 ✭✭✭CorkRed93

    Don't know anyone who expects a home to be handed to them. Again, nonsense.

  • Registered Users Posts: 18,532 ✭✭✭✭Del2005

    It's going to be extremely difficult to rebuild a country when your policy is to tax the people who are needed to do the work. I don't know how SF plan to get the arcitechs, designers, quantity surveyors etc when they are planning on taxing these people the most if elected.

  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Nickindublin

    Its a complete mess TBH and i dont know how it can be fixed. Building costs and labour shortages are now the major problem for anyone looking at building property.

    How would i fix it.

    I would legislate to get non paying tenants evicted in a timely manner and make them liable for outstanding unpaid rent. For people who genuinely have hit hard times like losing their job a simplified system to get rent assistance would also need to be looked at so they can stay in their home wiith this payment going directly to landlord.

    There also needs to be a fines system for tenants and landlords. This would like road traffic offences. Landlords who fail to keep their properties upto a certain standard and for tenants who do damage to property beyong wear and tear.

    Legislation should also be introduced for longer leases possibly upto 10 years with one rent review after 5 years. This would give the tenant and landlord greater certainty. Also if the landlord wishes to sell the tenant would not be affected. Tax incentives would be needed for this for both parties.

    We so need to build affordable homes and social housing. As i said costs and labour shortages are our biggest issues for this and then how do we pay for it. I suggest we tax Cuckoo funds to pay for this. There should be a standard tax rate of maybe 30% for them with no loopholes.

  • Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭pauly58

    Sad to say but no, I don't think it can be fixed. With the population increasing at a fast rate & set for 7.5 ml, then it could get a lot worse.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel

    Who said a generation of 25-35? I certainly didn’t, if you read my post I said people in that age group are buying houses

    But also people in that group do sit back waiting for a free house which you denied and now say they exist.

    So will leave you at that because in the end you have agreed with what I said 👍

  • Registered Users Posts: 667 ✭✭✭mikewest

    This and also stop the nonsense of demonizing landlords. If we don't have landlords we will never sort the rental crisis.

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