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Culture around renting

  • 30-06-2022 3:57pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 24 Nidge20131


    Looking at opinion polls and the general sense of the country I find that most or at least a lot of the issues are caused by a perceived injustice of people having to rent and their parents feeling angry about it as well.

    Why as a culture do we hate renting so much?

    Why do we look at renters as either victims or unsuccessful?

    Will the expectation of buying a home ever go away when the penny drops that for most people it will no longer be possible?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Nidge20131


    I think its down to social class and our perception of what we think middle class is more than costs



  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Nidge20131


    do you feel of a lower social standing because of it?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,522 ✭✭✭ igCorcaigh


    No, not at all. I just don't want to own a piece of the Earth.

    I'd love to rent from the Council, for the same rent I'm paying now. I have a decent income of €50K. I'd like to see that rent go into the public purse rather than the landlord's, but haven't a hope of getting up the list.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,620 ✭✭✭✭ Wanderer78


    again, purchasing is deemed a step towards providing a critical human need, i.e. increasing the 'security of accommodation', and since we ve completely wrecked our property markets, in terms of both renting and purchasing, this is helping to escalate this critical need.....



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,522 ✭✭✭ igCorcaigh


    Aha! :) I have never driven a car; can't and won't drive, hate them. People think I'm very odd!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,522 ✭✭✭ igCorcaigh


    Which all points to the need for regulation of rented properties, and for the complete rethinking of social housing policy. I want my rent money, paid throughout my life, to contribute to a social insurance system, so that when I retire, I will not be left homeless.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭ mohawk


    Sounds like an interesting idea. Has any political party ever had such a policy. I suppose in the future the government will have to intervene.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭ riclad


    The problem is renting is more expensive than buying a house, there's no long term security, the landlord could put the rent up in a year or 2, you might get asked to move out.most of gen z is looking at the prospect of never being able to buy property, its a choice of live at home or pay expensive rent. We are in the era of inflation, Ireland is becoming an expensive country to live in. We already have regulation of rental property's, there's loads of regulations, I think maybe you mean rent control. I don't know what changes they can make, the main problem is lack of housing, we need 20k plus units built per year,

    The government simply cannot do this, due to rising costs lack of resources, supply chain problems. If you vote for sinn féin or fine Gael it does not make much difference

    If there's excessive regulations landlords can simply sell up and leave the market what can we do Re social housing that we don't already do , I think the main problem is not bad policy's or lack of regulation

    I think new company's will stop coming here due to the awful state of the rental market



  • Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭ NedsNotDead


    I suspect its 100% the same poster. They just so far haven't given us their usual backstory



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,551 ✭✭✭ Flinty997


    Rented property is heavily regulated.

    You want security of housing without having to pay by buying property.

    The only people who can supply that are the Govt and they don't want to. The private market (as it exists) cannot supply that. Because by it's nature is driven by profit.

    Housing that's supplied at cost or subsidized or free has to come from the govt.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,806 ✭✭✭ Dav010


    Almost nothing, except invest a lot of their own/borrowed money into a property that you could wreck/stop paying rent in. If it is just about “extortionate” rates/profits, you have to wonder why so many LLs are leaving, and so few are investing.

    It never ceases to amaze me why some think they have some entitlement to live in a high price locality, just because they were born there.

    Most people don’t hate renters op, they hate eejits with a sense of entitlement, the genesis of the rental problem lies in the lack of supply and poorly thought out legislation/regulations which discourage investment.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭ GandhiwasfromBallyfermot


    The big companies who are already here, Google, Facebook etc are buying up newly built apartments to house their new hires. That's how bad the lack of supply has become.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭ Sunny Disposition


    Obviously buying a property is far better than renting one. Your money is getting you something for the long term, that's not the case with renting, it's all month to month. You could rent for 40 years and you'll still have to pay a significant amount each month of the 41st year.

    The idea that renting is superior to buying but that the masses just haven't realised it yet is pretty crazy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,786 ✭✭✭ eskimohunt


    It's not the landlord's fault.

    Do you want them to voluntarily make less profit?

    If you are against anything, it's the rules.

    The landlords are playing by the rules like everyone else.


    "Civil rights used to be about treating everyone the same. But today some people are so used to special treatment that equal treatment is considered to be discrimination" - Thomas Sowell



  • Registered Users Posts: 275 ✭✭ squigglestrebor


    Landlords are so so marginalized , those poor guys hahahahahahha



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