Breaking... US Supreme Court overturns Roe v Wade

amen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119284296#Comment_119284296

Do you support Sex Education in schools ? Contraception on demand?

extra gravy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285824#Comment_119285824

Look up the "Army of God" and then post your apology for calling me a liar. No rush.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285824#Comment_119285824

Murders[edit]

In the United States, violence directed towards abortion providers has killed at least eleven people, including four doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, a police officer, two people (unclear of their connection), and a clinic escort.[I 16][I 17] Seven murders occurred in the 1990s.[I 18]

• March 10, 1993: Gynaecologist David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of 1992. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.[I 19]
• July 29, 1994: John Britton, a physician, and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside another facility, the Ladies Center, in Pensacola. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings. Hill received a death sentence and was executed on September 3, 2003. The clinic in Pensacola had been bombed before in 1984 and was also bombed subsequently in 2012.[I 20]
• December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi was arrested and confessed to the killings. He died in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.[I 20]
• January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Rudolph admitted responsibility; he was also charged with three Atlanta bombings: the 1997 bombing of an abortion center, the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, and another of a lesbian nightclub. He was found guilty of the crimes and received two life sentences as a result.[I 21]
• October 23, 1998: Barnett Slepian was shot to death with a high-powered rifle at his home in Amherst, New York. His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Slepian's murder after being apprehended in France in 2001.[I 22]
• May 31, 2009: George Tiller was shot and killed by Scott Roeder as Tiller served as an usher at a church in Wichita, Kansas.[I 23] This was not Tiller's first time being a victim to anti-abortion violence. Tiller was shot once before in 1993 by Shelley Shannon, who was sentenced 10 years in prison for the shooting.
• November 27, 2015: A shooting at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, Colorado, left three dead and several injured, and a suspect Robert L. Dear was apprehended.[I 24][I 25][I 26] The suspect had previously acted against other clinics, and referred to himself as a "warrior for the babies" at his hearing.[I 27][I 28] Neighbors and former neighbors described the suspect as "reclusive",[I 25] and police from several states where the suspect resided described a history of run-ins dating from at least 1997.[I 26] As of December 2015, the trial of the suspect was open;[I 27] but, on May 11, 2016, the court declared the suspect incompetent to stand trial after a mental evaluation was completed.[I 29]

Attempted murder, assault, and kidnapping[edit]

According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, 13 wounded,[I 30] 100 butyric acid stink bomb attacks, 373 physical invasions, 41 bombings, 655 anthrax threats,[I 31] and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.[I 32] Between 1977 and 1990, 77 death threats were made, with 250 made between 1991 and 1999.[I 30] Attempted murders in the U.S. included:[I 16][I 5][I 6] in 1985 45% of clinics reported bomb threats, decreasing to 15% in 2000. One fifth of clinics in 2000 experienced some form of extreme activity.[I 33]

• August 1982: Three men identifying as the Army of God kidnapped Hector Zevallos (a doctor and clinic owner) and his wife, Rosalee Jean, holding them for eight days.[15]
• June 15, 1984: A month after he destroyed suction equipment at a Birmingham clinic, Edward Markley, a Benedictine priest who was the Birmingham diocesan "Coordinator for Pro-Life Activities".[I 34][I 35] (and perhaps an accomplice[citation needed]), entered the Women's Community Health Center in Huntsville, Alabama, assaulting at least three clinic workers.[citation needed] Kathryn Wood, one of the workers, received back injuries and a broken neck vertebrae while preventing Markley from splashing red paint on the clinic's equipment. Markley was convicted of first-degree criminal mischief, one count of third-degree assault, and one count of harassment in the Huntsville attack.[16]
• August 19, 1993: George Tiller was shot outside of an abortion facility in Wichita, Kansas. Shelley Shannon was convicted of the crime and received an 11-year prison sentence (20 years were later added for arson and acid attacks on clinics).
• July 29, 1994: June Barrett was shot in the same attack which claimed the lives of James Barrett, her husband, and John Britton.
• December 30, 1994: Five individuals were wounded in the shootings which killed Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols.
• December 18, 1996: Calvin Jackson, a medical doctor of New Orleans, Louisiana was stabbed 15 times, losing 4 pints of blood. Donald Cooper was charged with second degree attempted murder and was sentenced to 20 years. "Donald Cooper's Day of Violence", by Kara Lowentheil, Choice! Magazine, December 21, 2004.
• October 28, 1997: David Gandell, a medical doctor of Rochester, New York sustained serious injuries after being targeted by a sniper firing through a window in his home.[I 36]
• January 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured, and lost an eye, in the bombing which also killed off-duty police officer Robert Sanderson.

Arson, bombing, and property crime[edit]

According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid ("stink bombs").[I 32] The New York Times also cites over one hundred clinic bombings and incidents of arson, over three hundred invasions, and over four hundred incidents of vandalism between 1978 and 1993.[I 37] The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio.[I 38] Incidents have included:

• February 23, 1977: A clinic in Saint Paul, Minnesota was set on fire. The fire caused $250,000 in damages and forced the suspension of abortion services for six months.[I 39]
• May 1977: A clinic in Burlington, Vermont was destroyed by a fire, resulting in its closure for seven months.[I 39]
• August 1977: Four bottles of gasoline were thrown through a clinic in Omaha, Nebraska, destroying 75 percent of it.[I 39]
• November 1977: A man broke into a medical building in Cincinnati and set a crib on fire. A Planned Parenthood was located in the building, but no abortions were provided there. The same month, a firebomb was thrown at a clinic and a chemical bomb was thrown at a seperate clinic in seperate incidents.[I 39]
• January 8, 1978: A suspected arson caused $200,000 in damages at a clinic in Columbus, Ohio.[I 39]
• February 19, 1978: A man posing as a delivery man splashed gasoline in a technican's face before setting a clinic on fire in Cleveland, Ohio. Everyone inside the clinic escaped.[I 39]
• May 26, 1983: Joseph Grace set the Hillcrest clinic in Norfolk, Virginia ablaze. He was arrested while sleeping in his van a few blocks from the clinic when a patrol officer noticed the smell of kerosene.[I 40]
• May 12, 1984: Two men entered a Birmingham, Alabama clinic on Mother's Day weekend shortly after a lone woman opened the doors at 7:25 A.M. Forcing their way into the clinic, one of the men threatened the woman if she tried to prevent the attack while the other, wielding a sledgehammer, did between $7,500 and $8,500 of damage to suction equipment. The man who damaged the equipment was later identified as Edward Markley. Markley is a Benedictine priest who was the Birmingham diocesan "Coordinator for Pro-Life Activities". Markley was convicted of first-degree criminal mischief and second-degree burglary. His accomplice has never been identified. The following month (near Father's Day), Markley entered a women's health center in Huntsville, Alabama (see above).[I 35]
• July 7, 1984: A bomb detonated at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Annapolis, Maryland. Two people were inside but neither were injured.[I 41]
• December 25, 1984: An abortion clinic and two physicians' offices in Pensacola, Florida, were bombed in the early morning of Christmas Day by a quartet of young people (Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins) who later called the bombings "a gift to Jesus on his birthday."[I 42][I 43][I 44] The clinic, the Ladies Center, would later be the site of the murder of John Britton and James Barrett in 1994 and a firebombing in 2012.
• December 30, 1985: John A. Brockhoeft firebombed an abortion clinic in Cincinnati. Brockenhoeft later planned to bomb an abortion clinic in Florida.[17]
• March 26, 1986: Six anti-abortion activists, including John Burt and Joan Andrews, were arrested after invading an abortion clinic in Pensacola, Florida, causing property damage and injuring two women (a clinic manager and a member of the local NOW chapter).[18][19] Burt was convicted of attempted burglary of an occupied building, assault, battery, and resisting arrest without violence, and was sentenced to 141 days already served in jail and four years of probation; his 18-year-old daughter, Sarah Burt, who also took part in the invasion, was sentenced to 15 days in jail (with credit for two days already served) and three years of probation.[19] Andrews refused to pledge not to carry out such actions in the future and was convicted of burglary, criminal mischief and resisting arrest without violence. She was sentenced to five years in prison, which she spent largely in self-imposed isolation, refusing a mattress and all medical care.[20]
• July 27, 1987: Eight members of the Bible Missionary Fellowship, a fundamentalist church in Santee, California, attempted to bomb the Alvarado Medical Center abortion clinic. Church member Cheryl Sullenger procured gunpowder, bomb materials, and a disguise for co-conspirator Eric Everett Svelmoe, who planted a gasoline bomb. It was placed at the premises but failed to detonate as the fuse was blown out by wind.[21]
• July 3, 1989: A fire was started at the Feminist Health Center clinic in Concord, New Hampshire, on the day U.S. Supreme Court upheld a Missouri law banning funding of public facilities as related to abortion. The clinic was set afire again in 2000.[I 45]
• March 29, 1993: Blue Mountain Clinic in Missoula, Montana; at around 1 a.m., an arsonist snuck onto the premises and firebombed the clinic. The perpetrator, a Washington man, was ultimately caught, convicted and imprisoned. The facility was a near-total loss, but all of the patients' records, though damaged, survived the fire in metal file cabinets.[I 46][I 47][I 48][I 45]
• January 1997: Eric Rudolph admitted, as part of a plea deal for the Centennial Olympic Park bombing at the 1996 Olympic Games to placing a pair of bombs that exploded at the Northside Family Planning Services clinic in the Atlanta suburb of Sandy Springs.[I 21]
• May 21, 1998: Three people were injured when acid was poured at the entrances of five abortion clinics in Miami, Florida.[I 49]
• March 13, 1999: A bomb caused minor damage at an Asheville, North Carolina clinic.[22]
• October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota causing minimal damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison.[23]
• May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire, resulted in several thousand dollars' worth of damage. The case remains unsolved.[I 50][I 51][I 52] This was the second arson at the clinic.[I 45]
• September 30, 2000: John Earl, a Catholic priest, drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic in Rockford, Illinois after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an axe before being forced to the ground by the owner of the building, who fired two warning shots from a shotgun.[I 53]
• June 11, 2001: An unsolved bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington, destroyed a wall, resulting in $6,000 in damages.[I 54]
• January 9, 2005: Eastside Women's Clinic in Olympia, Washington sustained $500,000 damage in an arson.[I 55]
• July 4, 2005: A clinic in West Palm Beach, Florida, was the target of an probable arson.[24][25]
• December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year. Hughes claimed the bomb was a "memorial lamp" for an abortion she had had there.[I 56]
• September 11, 2006: David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan, crashed his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions; however, Edgerton is not an abortion clinic.[I 57] Time magazine listed the incident in a "Top 10 Inept Terrorist Plots" list.[I 58]
• April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas, contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device after evacuating the building. Paul Ross Evans (who had a criminal record for armed robbery and theft) was found guilty of the crime.[I 59]
• May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.[I 60]
• December 6, 2007: Chad Altman and Sergio Baca were arrested for the arson of Curtis Boyd's clinic in Albuquerque. Baca's girlfriend had scheduled an appointment for an abortion at the clinic.[I 61][I 62]
• January 22, 2009: Matthew L. Derosia, 32, who was reported to have had a history of mental illness,[I 63] rammed an SUV into the front entrance of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Saint Paul, Minnesota,[I 64] causing between $2,500 and $5,000 in damage.[26] Derosia, who told police that Jesus told him to "stop the murderers," was ruled competent to stand trial. He pleaded guilty in March 2009 to one count of criminal damage to property.[26]
• August 29, 2009: Two days after a nearby anti-abortion protest, an unknown arsonist threw a molotov cocktail at a Planned Parenthood in Lincoln, Nebraska. The bomb fell short of the building, leaving no property damage or casualties.[27]
• January 1, 2012: Bobby Joe Rogers, 41, firebombed the American Family Planning Clinic in Pensacola, Florida, with a Molotov cocktail; the fire gutted the building. Rogers told investigators that he was motivated to commit the crime by his opposition to abortion, and that what more directly prompted the act was seeing a patient enter the clinic during one of the frequent anti-abortion protests there. The clinic had previously been bombed at Christmas in 1984 and was the site of the murder of John Britton and James Barrett in 1994.[I 65]
• April 1, 2012: A bomb exploded on the windowsill of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Grand Chute, Wisconsin, resulting in a fire that caused minimal damage.[28]
• April 11, 2013: Benjamin David Curell, 27, caused extensive damage to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Bloomington, Indiana, vandalizing it with an axe.[I 66][29] Curell was convicted in state court of felony burglary, and pleaded guilty in federal court to one count of violating the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act. In the federal case, he was sentenced to three years of probation and ordered to pay restitution.[30]
• October 3-4, 2013: 32-year-old Jebediah Stout attempted to set a Planned Parenthood clinic in Joplin, Missouri on fire two days in a row. Stout previously set a fire at a Joplin mosque.[31]
• September 4, 2015: A Planned Parenthood clinic in Pullman, Washington was intentionally set on fire. No injuries were reported due to the time of day, but the FBI was involved because of a history of domestic terrorism against the clinic.[I 67] The crime was never solved. The clinic reopened six months later.[32]
• October 22, 2015: A Planned Parenthood clinic in Claremont, New Hampshire was vandalized by a juvenile intruder. Damaged in the attack were computers, furniture, plumbing fixtures, office equipment, medical equipment, phone lines, windows, and walls. The flooding that resulted from the vandalism also damaged an adjacent business.[I 68][I 69]
• February 24–25, 2016: Travis Reynolds, 21, vandalized a Baltimore-area women's health care clinic with anti-abortion graffiti.[33][34] After being arrested, Reynolds "admitted to police that he defaced the clinic's doors, walls and windows because he thought that it would deter women from using the clinic."[34] Reynolds pleaded guilty in federal court to one count of violating the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act in October 2016.[34]
• March 7, 2016: Rachel Ann Jackson, 71, vandalized a Planned Parenthood clinic in Columbus, Ohio, with the message "SATAN DEN OF BABY KILLERS..." She pleaded guilty to felony counts of breaking and entering and vandalism and a misdemeanor count of aggravated trespass.[35][36] Jackson was sentenced to probation, with the judge citing her struggle with serious mental illness as a mitigating factor.[36]
• February 10, 2019: Wesley Brian Kaster, 43, threw a Molotov cocktail at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Columbia, Missouri. Kaster admitted to setting the fire because Planned Parenthood provided abortions, although Planned Parenthood stated that the clinic was not providing abortions at the time due to a state law. Kaster was sentenced to five years in prison.[37]
• January 3, 2020: A high school student, Samuel Gulick, spray-painted "Deus Vult" on a clinic in Newark, Delaware before throwing a Molotov Cocktail at the front window. Gulick was sentenced to 26 months in prison by a federal judge.[38]
• October 10, 2020: A man threw multiple Molotovs at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Fort Myers, Florida.[39]
• January 23, 2021: An unknown individual fired a shotgun at a Tennessee Planned Parenthood clinic; no one was injured. News outlets noted that the attack took place on the anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision and at a time when Tennessee's governor, Bill Lee, was involved in a heated online debate regarding abortion and health care.[40]
• December 31, 2021: On New Year's Eve, a fire destroyed a Planned Parenthood in Knoxville, Tennessee. The building was closed at the time for renovations. The Knoxville Fire Department and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives ruled the fire arson. The clinic had previously been shot at in January of the same year.[41]
• May 25, 2022: A masked woman set a fire at a planned abortion clinic in Casper, Wyoming. The ATF offered a $5,000 reward for information leading to her arrest.[42]

Anthrax threats[edit]

The first hoax letters claiming to contain anthrax were mailed to U.S. clinics in October 1998, a few days after the shooting of Barnett Slepian; since then, there have been 655 such bioterror threats made against abortion providers. None of the "anthrax" in these cases was real.[I 5][I 70]

• November 2001: After the genuine 2001 anthrax attacks, Clayton Waagner mailed hoax letters containing a white powder to 554 clinics. On December 3, 2003, Waagner was convicted of 51 charges relating to the anthrax scare.

Akrasia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285780#Comment_119285780

When do you consider abortion to be immoral? Conception? Implantation?

When does a clump of cells have more rights to autonomy than a fully formed human?

Loafing Oaf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285865#Comment_119285865

When do you consider abortion to be immoral? Conception? Implantation?

Or before that even

Igotadose

It's just trolling by GQP who denies being an American, but just is on the windup. Wants to readjudicate the 8th in Ireland, too cowardly to take it to the Abortion thread (or, was there, ran off, reregged and came back.) It'll wither without attention.

extra gravy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285924#Comment_119285924

True, more fool me for engaging.

Mic 1972

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285820#Comment_119285820

They deserve respect for having their own values. Not everyone thinks like you

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285961#Comment_119285961

No one is forcing them to have abortions. Why should they warrant respect if they try to take rights away from others?

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285961#Comment_119285961

Try this line at the pro life rally

Faugheen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285961#Comment_119285961

And they are more than welcome to apply their own values to their own lives.

They can f*ck right off trying to force their values on anybody else.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285992#Comment_119285992

Or at the anti-LGBTQ/God Hates Fags/Klue Klux Klan etc. rally

Tonesjones

"Since the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization decision on Friday, attacks on Catholic churches and pro-life pregnancy centers have been reported in West Virginia, Washington, Virginia, Louisiana, Colorado, California, Texas, Florida, New York, and Indiana"

Not only are these cretins attacking pro life centres they are attacking churches too.

Who else attacks churches? ISIS and Islamic state.

Faugheen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286128#Comment_119286128

Who else denies women rights over their own body? ISIS and Islamic State.

I can make stupid comparisons too.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286128#Comment_119286128

Who else attacks churches? ISIS and Islamic state.

Did you bother reading that link I posted this morning?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_George_Tiller

AbusesToilets

Funny how the Church denies baptism for stillborn children, as Church law states sacremnts are only for the living. Which they define as having taken a breath.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286166#Comment_119286166

This is news to me

Tonesjones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286134#Comment_119286134

But you don't disagree with nut cases attacking churches?

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286211#Comment_119286211

#leaping

Faugheen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286211#Comment_119286211

You don't disagree with women having rights to their own body and everyone else should mind their own business?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286241#Comment_119286241

Not only that, the white house condemned them. Also don't pro lifers tend to camp out of Planned Parenthood clinics? In the process targeting the women, nurses and doctors? That's ignoring all the other crimes.

Tonesjones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286261#Comment_119286261

The decision has been made. It's up to the states now. As it should be.

Attacking buildings where pregnant women go for support is hardly looking out for women is it?

And some of the racism against Clarence Thomas from those on the left. Disgraceful but once again the mask slips.

Vile

Manic Moran

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119283851#Comment_119283851

Closer to a matter of citizenship. There are three different jurisdictions and states which share the same geographic space. Tribal, State and Federal. For better or worse, the tribal nations were conquered by the US Government, and so the Feds set the rules. The US Government has decided that as part of its recognition of tribes as nations it lets the tribes deal with their own internal problems on their own. So if an Indian commits a crime against an Indian on Indian land (eg half of Oklahoma), then that's generally a matter for the Tribal courts to handle. However, presumably because the US government didn't trust tribal courts, it reserved in its treaties the right to prosecute its own people, at either Federal or State level depending on circumstance.

Arrests are a different matter. As a matter of practicality, as there's no way of knowing beforehand who one is dealing with both tribal police and State/Federal have authority in most cases to search and detain anyone and then hand over to the correct authority, that was confirmed unanimously by SCOTUS in 2021 in a case where a Crow police officer ran into a non-Indian with meth and guns and the latter claimed that as he was a non-Indian, the officer had no jurisdiction over him.

Igotadose

Attacking buildings where pregnant women go for support is hardly looking out for women is it?

Hmm... something tells me you're missing the point here. Did you read what Overheal pointed out earlier about the forced birthers bombing planned parenthood sites (for decades. And Overheal just picked out some.) Let alone the forced birther protesters that harass women going into and out of these centers, even if it's for routine gynecological care which is unavailable otherwise in forced birth states.

Whether 'crisis pregnancy' centers are supportive is hard to say since they're carefully kept from regulations especially in forced birth states.

But, why do I bother. GQP's just gonna keep lying. And way too gutless to look at things like 'in her shoes' websites from the repeal effort. Imagine those experiences worsen by a hundredfold. That's what the US will be like. And soon. GQP's kind gets off on contemplating the suffering of women, probably because they won't have anything to do with GQP.

Tonesjones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286324#Comment_119286324

Its you who is missing the point or willfully ignoring it.

In the past few weeks over 60 pro life centres have been vandalised.

Your reply: yeah but

Own the situation for God's sake. Hold your ground. Dont reply with a "yeah but"

No wonder the left are as they are.

Faugheen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286293#Comment_119286293

Pfft. Your faux outrage is fooling nobody.

Answer my question, should women have rights to their own body?

Overheal

McFall v. Shimp cited Roe to conclude one cannot be forced to donate an organ to save another person's life.

https://twitter.com/kageneko/status/1543626796444160001?s=20&t=Y2tpYJWD9ZkFTYiX6-060A

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286341#Comment_119286341

Do you agree, attacking Planned Parenthood sites, that support women, is bad?

If you've got proof of vandalism to 'pro life centres' feel free to post it. If it's from the likes of 'this and that religious organization' news like 'cnsnews' or whatever, forget it. And, don't 'crisis pregnancy centres' claim to be neutral? AFAIK they don't do anything for pregnant women like the kind of medical support Planned Parenthood provides.

You do know that Planned Parenthood does more than abortion consultation, right?

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286341#Comment_119286341

Like you're owning the pro-life assassination at a church?

Not sure why someone on the internet has to 'own the situation' for the US.

Tonesjones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286362#Comment_119286362

In today Sunday independent on page 21 they have 2 pieces side by side with the same column space. One is pro choice one is pro life. The details about the attacks are in there.

There is definitely a market in the US for a chain of clinics for some types. I would call it "planned victimhood" . ( do you get it?) There would be cubicles where people could call in and get hugs. Maybe throw a few darts at a Trump picture. That kind of thing.

Anyway that's neither here nor there.