General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

djan

The referee in the ARS - NEW game really lost the plot giving out yellows for the same foul one time and then ignoring it for another.

The pull on Gabriel by Burn is quite something. Struggling to see the logic in it not being given or even properly inspected by the ref pitch side...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1610382404312506378

TherapyBoy

Stonewall penalty, amazed it wasn’t even looked at for a review.

I thought the referee lost himself a bit early in the game, gave Newcastle a few first half yellow cards (which I thought were overkill for the incidents carded). He then seemed to remember himself & dished out a couple of yellow cards for soft fouls by Arsenal players, as if to even it up! Crazy!

StringerBell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120062324#Comment_120062324

Klopp deserves to have a few questions asked tbf

Bluebb993

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120062823#Comment_120062823

He lost control of the game the weekend between city and Everton also.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120062285#Comment_120062285

That's giving Spurs and Pool a lot of undeserved credit.

doc_17

In the Arsenal Newcastle game, the ball was in play for 43 mins and 17 seconds. Pathetic.

doc_17

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120063605#Comment_120063605

Maybe, but they have better teams and managers.

yourdeadwright

Talking about losing control Arteta lost the plot for most of the second half yesterday

I hope Arsenal can pull it off but if he is like that when we are not even half way through i cant see him remaining clam & composed for a title run in, I think they will blow it , He was just constantly screaming at players & officials not what is needed, You can see how they blew the champions league spot

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120063654#Comment_120063654

He looked no more out of control than the title winning managers like Pep, Jose and Klopp.

I think yesterday was the first time I actually liked Arteta

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120063720#Comment_120063720

To be fair yes Klopp & Pep have done this in big games mostly against each other, title deciding games,

Not before the half way mark of a season & Arteta is at it week in week out recently,

I think he is showing inexperience & wilting under pressure,

doc_17

Arteta has been like that all season. The 4th officials are so weak. He’s constantly out of the technical area. The solution is so simple. Warning, yellow card, red card. I’m not saying refs are to blame for the abuse they get but when they let Arteta do what he wants on the line of course he’s going to push it and see what else he can get away with in terms of pressurising the officials.

Fitz*

Didn't see that game last night but I do remember one game at Anfield a year or so ago where Arsenal were giving Liverpool a game for 30 odd mins, it was still 0-0 when Liverpool were expected to win. Then Arteta tried to start some nonsense with Klopp and the crowd and he ended up firing up Anfield which in turn fired up the players and Liverpool went on to win 4-0 in a very routine victory.

Then when I read this, I get the impression that maybe he is doing too much perhaps? I've no problem with managers being animated, but I guess there is a line and you have to harness the energy and choose the right time to be up shouting. Doing it for every incident could somewhat dilute the desired message. I know Arsenal are top and what he is doing must be working, but maybe the pressure is getting to him already?

https://twitter.com/JBurtTelegraph/status/1610376417413595140

SlickRic

I flagged the Arteta nonsense before Arsenal even got good.

He's worse than them all - Klopp, Mourinho, Pep, Conte - anyone you want to name, at behaving in the technical area. He honestly thinks he owns the entire sideline. He's constantly encroaching onto the pitch. He's an embarrassment down there.

He must obviously be good at pushing the line enough not to get properly reprimanded, but he's an utter nuisance, and it still doesn't get called out.

It's also entertaining how people are only now realising the Newcastle antics. They've been doing that all season against the big teams. People ignored what they did at Anfield because Liverpool got a miracle goal, but last night was a carbon copy. Everyone could've been warned if they weren't so outraged that Liverpool got out of that game with a win.

citytillidie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120063782#Comment_120063782

It is coming back on the officials also for not talking to him or punishing him from leaving the technical area, some games he is near the 18 yard box when Arsenal are attacking going crazy if the move break down or he feels an Arsenal player has been fouled.

Jinglejangle69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120063739#Comment_120063739

Yeah ok.

Didn’t Pep kick a water bottle at the Everton bench last week?

Conte does be like a lunatic on the sideline and has been this season.

Love how Arteta is annoying opposing fans. Arsenal must be doing good when this stuff happens.

Long may it last.

awec

If you watch the Arsenal All or Nothing docu-series on Amazon you'll see Arteta is clearly a very passionate and intense character.

They actually had the Amazon cameras at the Liverpool game Fitz referenced above and it's covered in the series.

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120063838#Comment_120063838

It's not just fans ,there numerous articles this morning about it & even during the first half Henry Winter from the times was writing he seems to have lost the run of himself,

Its happened when they blew top four last season , he needs to learn from that ,

doc_17

VVD out for a month with a hamstring injury.

doc_17

Athletic reporting that Arsenal and Utd are interested in taking Joao Felix on loan. Apparently the deal is €15m loan fee until the end of the season and €6m in wages. That’s a trap if there ever was one!

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120063957#Comment_120063957

Milan and Juve both turned him down already because Atleti were asking for too much.

davemckenna25

So when Arteta and Pep are animate on the side line and in the face of the 4th official they should be pulled up by the referee, but when it was Klopp at it ever game (and still is) it's described as passion and good to see!

TipsyMcStagge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120063625#Comment_120063625

Not true Opta Analyst says it was in play 51:23 which is the 34th lowest of the season.

doc_17

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120064193#Comment_120064193

Correct. Sorry, I was looking at a reply to an Opta tweet and didn’t see Opta correcting the original poster.

doc_17

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120064170#Comment_120064170

If you want to make it about Klopp then….Klopp got a ban for his awful behaviour towards a linesman. Arteta is way above what the rest of them are at, running down the line every game and rarely stays inside the technical area.

OwaynOTT

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120064193#Comment_120064193

Do they have a stat for how long was Arteta out of the technical area.

probably longer than the play was in play

TipsyMcStagge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120064505#Comment_120064505

He was a disgrace on the line last night constantly screaming at and bullying the 4th official he nearly caused a riot at the end as well! Klopp was banned for similar behaviour Arteta should really get the same for setting such a terrible example.

castletownman

Very simple. The fourth official should have a little flag like in the NFL that they throw on the field immediately after a coach so much as steps an inch out of the technical area, or if they feel they are getting too much of an earful. That serves as the first warning, another flag means sent from the dug-out entirely and suspended for the next game.

tayto lover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120064800#Comment_120064800

That's a bit childish though. If Klopp got a card then so should Arteta seems to be your point. You could compare that to penalties, free kicks, sending offs etc etc. There is no consistency in football and never was. Fergie used to scream at the 4th official and get 'Fergie Time' at the end of a game and he and Wenger were sent to the stand several times.

doc_17

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120064980#Comment_120064980

The solution is so simple. Why don’t they do it.

L'prof

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120063957#Comment_120063957

I think this seems far more likely than the Mudryk deal to be honest. I think Arsenal may have FFP in mind, especially during a winter transfer window, and may not want to overspend

With regards to Arteta, it’s up to the officials to reign him in if they deem it necessary. I’m sure it’ll happen at some stage and he’ll adjust his behaviour accordingly but until such a time comes I can’t see why he’d feel the need