Non-binary person hospitalised following vicious attack in Dublin City

TOMs WIFE

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40891133.html

Scumbags everywhere, but "According to Gay Community News which first reported on the incident, the attack took place after one of the survivor's friends wrapped a Pride flag around them." - I'm trying to understand, and I know it's pride month, how the attackers knew that they were non binary? Any chance it was just some scumbags having a go at innocents in general? Plenty of people being attacked by assholes, but not always related to sexuality.

Quantum Erasure

I don't think the attackers particularly cared which of the LGBTQIA2SNBPKQA++ letters the victim fell under, or what pronouns they preferred...

the bigger question is who goes walking around the city with a baseball bat and knives,

Atlantic Dawn

Did the hospital have a specific non binary ward to deal with the patient, I'd have doubts the victim would have wanted to go in to a ward that dealt simply with males or females? If not whoy not?

Realt Dearg Sec

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119177186#Comment_119177186

Jesus Christ shut up for fcking once. Innocent person gets beaten near to death and your response is the same sh1t joke your like always wheel out. Cop yourself on and have some respect for yourself even if you can't extend it to anyone else.

CPTM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058249447/non-binary-person-hospitalised-following-vicious-attack-in-dublin-city

I don't know if you're interpreting the headline wrongly or if I'm misunderstanding your OP, but I don't think they're saying the attackers attacked the person because they identify as non binary. The article is suggesting they were attacked after they wrapped a pride flag around their shoulders. The only reason non binary is mentioned at all is because normally these headlines would say "male attacked" or "female attacked" and this person wants neither pronoun to apply to them.

Phil.x

Am I correct in saying the non-binary person wrapped a pride flag around the accused?

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119177186#Comment_119177186

Wards n Ireland aren't segregated into male/female. They are Unisex. No idea what you are trying to say, but it's probably not as clever as you think.

Hospitals have dealing with people who are genetically non binary for a long time. There is not issue with choosing a ward.

Jequ0n

It’s funny that the attackers managed to flee the scene, presumably with their baseball bat? I mean that’s the noteworthy piece in the article (which is sparse enough).

Tonesjones

Article is sparse in detail. The genders of the victim and the attackers is mentioned but no detail in the race of the attackers.

What kind of lunatics are out there. Walking around armed, it's crazy

Gant21

Is binary for the snow flakes?

Richard Hillman

There's something off about that story. Person stabbed and beaten with a baseball bat in Dublin City Centre (why were they carrying a baseball bat btw?), On Dame Street at 7pm and it took the media 6 days to find out about it?

I will imagine this story will just disappear.

A "vicious assault" with a baseball bat and multiple stabbings on dame st at 7pm on a thursday? Very unusual to not see other news outlets leading with that story.

Thank god for Gay Community News.

*Edit..pipped to the post by previous poster*

olestoepoke

Attacking another person like that is the act of a scumbag, attacking a person because of their sexuality is disgusting. The article mentions the homophobic attacks in sligo where two gay men were lured to their deaths and slaughtered by a Muslim extremist immigrant. They left out the Muslim extremist immigrant part.

Amenhotep

a nonsense headline like "Non binary person attacked.... "

I instantly lose sympathy , what does "non binary" even mean ?

Amenhotep

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119177308#Comment_119177308

Yes, Islam is a sacred cow of the left, so is LGBTQ, so they get themselves in a real pickle when something like this happens.

Usually they ignore it or find a way to blame the mythical "far right" ...

MojoMaker

"Genetically non-binary" - you mean a hermaphrodite?

Riesen_Meal

Gay person gets the shít knocked out of him in broad daylight and boards posters are arguing over where and who he sleeps beside in the hospital due to his gender...

Boards.ie never change

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119177559#Comment_119177559

No it is someone who does not identify as male of Female but who might feel male one day and then another day feel more Female then somedays not feel as either.

So if they were Amab they still have all them bits or if they were afab they still have all their's.

They are complex individuals.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119177632#Comment_119177632

But their genetics dont change depending on their feelings?

Penn

Feels like more people on this thread would be afraid to see a non-binary person walking towards them than a guy with a baseball bat and a knife.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119177649#Comment_119177649

Well maybe their genetics are different. There some people even born with both sets of organs.

Not all minds are the same either. It could be wired differently. There is still so much we need to understand about the mind.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119177605#Comment_119177605

I think its more that people are rightfully skeptical about a news story that is pretty much a copy and paste from the Gay Community News which has very little detail in it.

I would have expected an assault with a baseball bat and someone being stabbed multiple times on one of the busiest streets in the capital, in broad daylight, would receive a little more coverage, or at least have some video clips floating about.

Something doesn't add up.

Obviously if it turns out to be true, it is a terrible and awful incident.

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119177186#Comment_119177186

Posting absolute nonsense at 3:14am? Might want to dial back on the booze.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119177680#Comment_119177680

So what, in your mind, is the difference between non-binary and genetically non-binary?

Quitelife

Most people dont even know what Binary or non binary means ?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119177726#Comment_119177726

I would have assumed that non-binary would have meant that they believe their gender (not their genetics or their sex) is something outside the realms of just male or female

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119177741#Comment_119177741

From what I know, it's that they view gender the same way as sexual orientation; that it's not an either/or but rather a scale. Most people are on either end of the scale, some might be leaning more towards the middle (ie. effeminate men, tomboy-ish women), whereas non-binary people feel more in the middle. That regardless of their genetics, they neither identify as male or female (it's easy for people to say "Well what does it mean to identify as a man, I don't feel like a man I just am one" or whatever, but that's the thing, we don't really notice how it feels when our gender matches our body because that's just what it is, whereas you're more likely to know when something doesn't feel right). So it's the idea that the "binary" is you're on one side or the other, whereas they're non-binary because they don't identify as either. Genderfluid would be that sometimes you feel more on one side of the scale, sometimes more on the other.

Likewise sexuality, most people are heterosexual or homosexual, but some people are bisexual because they're more in the middle of the scale. Some people might be predominantly straight but would also have no issue with being with someone of the same sex either.

I'm open to correction of course from those who experience such things, as the above is just my own understanding from reading and listening to people rather than sticking my fingers in my ears and shouting "BUT WHAT ARE THEIR CHROMOSOMES???!!!"

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119177526#Comment_119177526

christ almighty

Ash.J.Williams

very odd a couple would be walking around with a baseball bat

CPTM

The problem I have with all this stuff, is that I have no idea what they mean when they say they 'feel' male or the 'feel' female. I don't know what it means to feel male or female. It's like saying I feel tall, or I feel short, or I feel blonde, I feel brunette. I don't have these feelings.. I walk down the street and feel human, or I feel alive.. But to be male in my head or female in my head doesn't make sense to me.

Being gay totally makes sense to me. I know exactly what it's like to be attracted to one single sex. So if a guy tells me he only fancies guys, that makes total sense to me because in my head a similar chemical reaction or feeling is felt with women.

I suppose if someone close to me actually goes through this sort of thing I will learn more at that stage.

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119177726#Comment_119177726

I would have thought most people would know what binary means from maths / it's use in computing? On/off, black/white etc.

If you want to extend that to gender, then male/female would be binary options. So 'non-binary' would be neither of those.

*a caveat, I'm not of the screaming 'THERE ARE A BILLION GENDERS!' persuasion, just the above seems obvious enough.