Wimbledon 2022

gmisk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119267137#Comment_119267137

I thought they could still move people? (At least still with the woman's seeds)

The below is from 2021, did it change this year for the ladies?

https://www.tennismajors.com/wimbledon-news/the-wimbledon-seeding-system-history-controversy-and-change-420311.html

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119266717#Comment_119266717

"Regarding Emma, I don't understand why she annoys so many people, she is a teenager who never says anything to dodgy and seems harmless enough. She likes the sponsorship stuff, but from all accounts she is inundated with offers all the time and only picks some. Good for her tbh."

Saw her play & interviewed the other night and seemed pretty level headed. Maybe she annoys people because of nationality, but not much she can do about that.

gmisk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119267218#Comment_119267218

I tend to agree she seems very pleasant in interviews etc....but...the Daily Mail (of course) ran a story about how valuable her jewellery was (comments are a cesspit)...the British media like to build someone up to then tear them down tbh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119265596#Comment_119265596

indeed.

laughable rubbish being spouted by some pathetic fake virtue signallers here

it's professional sport, or it's supposed to be.

Serena Williams did put a lot of hard work on diet and conditioning in to lose a lot of weight and tone up in her mid-career when she was very very fit and that's when she was at her best performance wise by a margin when she knew that she would be up against the likes of actual proper competitive challengers around then

take a look at this picture of her aged 30 for example compared to yesterday evening

Williams said herself that she was not in sufficient shape for a long match (in WTA terms at 3 hours)

That's much much more difficult in her case as she has gotten far older (in her 40's now obviously), had more injuries, had a family etc.

Possibly somewhat also because there was nobody much good around so she didn't bother as much and lost the discipline

but there is not much excuse for some other professional players in their mid twenties playing with pot bellies

the fact that they can get away with that and be in the top 20 or even top 10 is more than faintly ridiculous, does say quite a bit about the standard and consistency and people wouldn't get away with that in even high-level amateur team sport where they would be told by team mgt and indeed their teammates quick smart to get their sh1t in order

It's no surprise that some of the best and most long-performing ATP players in a much more competitive and consistent tour (both in terms of less errors compared to winners in matches and general player consistency over a season) lead a very disciplined diet and exercise regime because they wouldn't have the remotest chance of competing if they went to pot

gmisk

Norrie takes first set against Munar.

Ruud looks to be in real bother against Humbert...2 sets to 1 down and Humbert serving for the match....and that's him out!

Itssoeasy

Djokovic has looked impressive and is on the brink of closing it out in straight sets. First day watching play live and not recording it and rewatch it after the fact.

Itssoeasy

Djokovic wins in straight sets and looks good doing it and better then his opening round.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119267425#Comment_119267425

Alcaraz's all-court game is still the biggest potential danger to Djokovic really (barring Djokovic having a massive off day) if his elbow strapping is only precautionary as he and his team say and if he can really get the hang of grass over the next couple of matches despite having fairly negligible experience on the surface

An all-court game and talent like that has the best chance of being effective quickly

Hurkacz would have been overcome by Djokovic even if was still there as he's not consistent enough from the back of the court and Djokovic has a 4-0 record on him

Meanwhile on the other side of the draw Covid and grass-court dangers like Cressy have taken out the actual 3 biggest grass-court threats in that 1/2 in terms of current form

gmisk

Norrie match looks to be going to a 5th set.

Raducanu struggling a set and now a break down....looks to be on way out....

gmisk

Raducanu gone...not really in it tbh...

Norrie up a break in final set...and has won 8 games in a row.

Isner Vs Murray should be fun!

Xander10

Raducanu beaten easily in straight sets.

She was pretty poor.

yerwanthere123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119267103#Comment_119267103

She's a beast indoors and went on a huge tear at the end of last year, as well as making the final of the season end championships. Can't really back it up at the slams so far, unfortunately. It's a tie between her and Paula Badosa for weakest world #2 ever.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119267218#Comment_119267218

I've said before several times that Raducanu seems a nice girl.

But no slam winner has ever had a worse record since winning a slam in the following period - just about 10 months now.

If she was getting even reasonable results there would be no talk about sponsorship (or the firing coaches / not having a coach).

But when the results are that bad (for a slam winner) then the adverts for Nike about a champion spirit and her showing Dua Lipa how to hit a forehand just look ironic.

You can't blame her for taking the sponsorship (in fact it's increasingly looking like a smart move).

It's all about the results.

it's that simple.

It's not about whether she's a nice girl or not.

And increasingly - how did this player win a slam (besides the obvious of not having to beat any Top player en route due to the tour inconsistency doing its job)?

Not sure what her game has that presents any danger to good opponents - she's not a particularly good ball-striker and takes the ball late too often, doesn't have much power, doesn't have much variety and is not a very good mover either.

Today her only chance was her opponent mentally crumbling and you can't rely on that to win.

squigglestrebor

Some people are just obsessed with putting people down. I mean shes 19 and has won 4 wimbeldon main draw matchs so far , i mean federer and Sampras didnt do that.... if its ALL ABOUT RESULTS, why is there daily fellatio to Alcaraz? He hasnt reached a grand slam semi final yet. Seems like it isnt all about results? Hahah

HeidiHeidi

As one commentator was at pains to point out, if you take the US open as a complete aberration (which it was), Raducanu's progress as a 19 year old on her first year on the tour would be perfectly normal, and even good.

Instead she's referred to as US Open Champion more often than by her name as far as I can tell, and everything is judged in that light.

She completely lucked her way through a major tournament (which happens every so often), and is being hanged by that noose ever since.

squigglestrebor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119268077#Comment_119268077

Completly lucked seems very strong for 10 wins zero sets dropped tbh and Bencic and Sakkari in there. But yeah take that tournament out anyway and her results have been very good , 4th round of wimbeldon a highlight. Best british female in i dont know how long?

HeidiHeidi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119268094#Comment_119268094

Luck, timing and a winning streak - happens to most once, it just happened to happen to her on a very big stage.

I hate seeing her judged on everything since by it.

squigglestrebor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119268104#Comment_119268104

Yeah there was luck there but lets be real , a very small % of players especially young players would have the mental strength to take advantage of that luck and it most certainly doesnt happened to most. Look at tsitipas etc choking. But yeah she has been treated like shite.

gmisk

Norrie through in 5th set. Next round Steve Johnson fairly winnable....

Let's see how many aces Isner reigns down on Murray! Could be a few tiebreaks

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119268077#Comment_119268077

Ah come on, she's going to be financially comfortable for the rest of her life whereas 50 other tennis players of arguably similar talent will never get a draw and run like that and be relying on grand slam first and second round paydays to keep going and will never remotely be as financially set.

(although there is a much much higher likelihood of getting such on run on the WTA vs the ATP where there is precisely zero chance of winning a Slam without playing a current Top 10 player)

As if those other players wouldn't absolutely bite the hand off anyone offering them such a draw even if they had to sign up to Raducanu's record since.

HeidiHeidi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119268196#Comment_119268196

Maybe, just maybe, it's not about the money?

She got lucky (combined with her talent) in that tournament, why should her entire life after be judged by it? She's a teenager in her first year as a pro.

Anyway, we're clearly never going to agree so I'll leave it at that.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119268205#Comment_119268205

of course it's not all about the money but tell that to the billions in the world struggling to get by instead of never having to work a day for the rest of their life at 19.

and you didn't answer the the question about the other 50 similarly-talented players - they would sign up to Raducanu's situation in a fraction of a heartbeat.

HeidiHeidi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119268224#Comment_119268224

I didn't realise it was a question you wanted answered.

And what about them? It's Raducanu who's being discussed (by me anyway), and I think she's being unfairly judged on one moment in time in her young life.

That's all.

Now, for this and many other reasons, the ignore button will be deployed.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119268248#Comment_119268248

take care.

I didn't say anything remotely outrageous or inflammatory about Raducanu and not describing the actual context and reality of things.

yerwanthere123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119268260#Comment_119268260

Nah, you've just spent the last 9 months trashing her at every available given opportunity.

squigglestrebor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119268268#Comment_119268268

Could you imagine trashing a teenager weekly for nearly a year , possible a result of something in the posters personal life.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119268268#Comment_119268268

not thrashing Raducanu at all.

the opponents have been doing that mainly.

the results speak for themselves.

it's not about whether she's nice etc - nothing to do with that at all.

it's about how that level of player could possibly win a slam.

do I think that the overall standard of play and consistency of the WTA is about at and sometimes lower than ITF level (the level below the Challenger tour which is in turn below the main ATP tour) - yes.

gmisk

Isner take first set against Murray...very little in it. Murray had two break points took none...Isner had one and took it.

Isner serving really well as expected.

yerwanthere123

Tan withdrew from her doubles match after her victory over Serena. Her partner... wasn't thrilled 😬

https://twitter.com/TheTennisTalker/status/1542157959525957632?t=RExTYyBWG9dnH8tLY1kl-w&s=19

Hon Isner!