Men in the Housing Crisis

Liberty_Bear

Speaking with me neighbour above. He's broke up with the missus. The landlord is selling the flat, gave six months notice. He's been trying to find place to live as a single fella and nothing coming up. Every one bed he looked at that was affordable didn't get back and everything else is outside his budget. This is the house crisis hitting home. ...

Still stihl waters 3

Is this 1 of the married men your always on about riding

Liberty_Bear

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119126352#Comment_119126352

Throw me your number and I will add you to the queue happily :)

Still stihl waters 3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119126373#Comment_119126373

Lol, I'm grand the way I am, thanks tho

sam t smith

You two should get a room. 😚

kerryjack

It's every man's worst nightmare to have to leave a home you put a lot of effort time and money and end up in a **** flat. That's the reality for some lads when things go tits up,

hayse

Get a council house.

Liberty_Bear

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119130312#Comment_119130312

Im a thicko, I didnt actually think of that!! I'll suggest that to him

Leg End Reject

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119130323#Comment_119130323

He just might get one in 10 years.

handlemaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058247826/men-in-the-housing-crisis

The government shot the lower house rental market in the head years ago when they effectively outlawed bedsits.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119130323#Comment_119130323

Council won't do anything unless he's actually homeless and even then it would likely be a hotel or b&b, neither of which are suitable for long term living.

Liberty_Bear

Its really a catch 22 isnt it

Dial Hard

Newsflash, it's not just men the housing crisis is affecting. I've just moved home at 40 poxy years of age because the house I was renting was sold and like your friend, I couldn't find a one-bed.

Liberty_Bear

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119131207#Comment_119131207

What did you end up doing?

Dial Hard

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119131219#Comment_119131219

Moved home.

Subzero3

If you're friend was Ukrainian he'd have a chance, but since he is an Irish tax payer (is he?) He will just have to find a place outside the city and get a second job to pay for petrol to drive in.

Liberty_Bear

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119131225#Comment_119131225

Thats the hardest option and the only option for a lot of people. Living with my folks again as much as I love them I couldnt do it

Liberty_Bear

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119131231#Comment_119131231

Or the government could release the nama housing stock and screw the market, human needs outweight capitalist interests here..

wrangler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119131238#Comment_119131238

A lot of marriages/partnerships going tits up now.

Years ago couples had to tough it out as there was no way they could afford to pay for two houses and they wouldn't be wanted at home

HerrKapitan

What housing crisis for men? Last time I checked 80% of properties are owned by men.

Liberty_Bear

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119131567#Comment_119131567

More homless men than women last time I checked too

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/number-of-homeless-people-in-state-passes-9-000-1.4771257

Mullinabreena

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119131207#Comment_119131207

This isn't a dig at you. But I'm curious to know what were the circumstances for you to be still renting at 40? In your late 20s and early 30s did you plan to keep renting long term or have any desire to buy a home?

Dial Hard

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119131779#Comment_119131779

I bought a house with my sister when I was in my early 20s. She bought me out when I moved in with my now ex husband and I put that money into our house. My marriage ended when I was 30 and I walked away from that house. It was in negative equity so wasn't worth fighting over and I didn't have the energy or inclination for a row at that stage anyway, I just wanted to cut ties and start working on pulling myself back together because the marriage ending left me in pieces.

I've been single and renting since, have had two (unpaid) redundancies in that period and also went back to college so had those fees too. None of which really added up to an ability to buy. I've long since accepted that I'll never buy again but I never envisioned the current rental market either.

Even if my parents were letting me live at home for free (they're not) and I could save pretty much my entire current salary, house prices would likely continue to outpace my ability to save a deposit. And by the time I'd have one saved I'd probably only qualify for a fairly short-term mortgage.

It's a balls.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119131819#Comment_119131819

You sound like you're a tough character, fair play for to you for keeping going.

road_high

Single working men in this country are an invisible commodity- except when it comes to pilfering your pay packet.

Quitelife

Talking to a guy(50s) who didnt look like a drug addict who was begging beside the ATM in camden street i was using, got his whole life story, himself and wife split up, she got the house in court and he had to move out , he rented for a while then lost his job , couldnt pay his rent and ended up homeless.

He said welfare offices / Council people put a big effort into housing females but arent really bothered about single men who they feel should be able to get something for themselves easier but many men cant and end up homeless.

road_high

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119132120#Comment_119132120

Could very easily happen anyone, especially men. Throw in a bit of alcohol abuse and mental health issues and even more so. Men are treated appalling in this country when it comes to welfare and family issues

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119132120#Comment_119132120

He must be begging for a reason, homeless people are still entitled to a payment.He may very well have an addiction of sorts.

Welfare are not involved in housing , local authorities are.

There's no direct prioritisation of women over men.

I work in homeless services and see men and women in homelessness being treated equally, you may me certain criteria to be housed quicker than other people but it has nothing to do with gender.

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119131819#Comment_119131819

That's rough.

Mullinabreena

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119131819#Comment_119131819

Thats rough. Thanks for sharing your story, I hope it will work out for you eventually.

Mad_maxx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119132069#Comment_119132069

yes but all that privilege

Kimbot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119130312#Comment_119130312

If hes working hes probably earning too much to get one.

hayse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119134325#Comment_119134325

He can’t afford a one bedroom flat so that answers your doubt.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119131207#Comment_119131207

I think its a single person housing crisis. It seems whether you're male or female, trying to find accommodation that is not sharing as a single person is virtually impossible.

Sharing is fine when you're in your twenties, but when you're a bit older, you want your own space and a bit more security and stability.

Many people on single incomes just can't buy, either - earn too much for social housing, but not enough for a mortgage. Caught between a rock and a hard place.

mrslancaster

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TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119130312#Comment_119130312

Where will he get this council house?

hayse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119136492#Comment_119136492

From the council obviously, we are having a slow day aren’t we.

Potential-Monke

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119137152#Comment_119137152

But he's a single male, so bottom of the list and underneath any incoming new people that aren't single males.

39, living at home with the parents. Failed mortgage, negative equity, no credit history, not earning enough to saved let alone get a loan for a mortgage so I've given up on owning, and even renting tbh. Speaking to my aunt who is renting, she has a deal with the landlord (she knows him) so she's paying €650 a month but maintains the property herself. The others don't maintain but they're paying €1100 a month. I can't afford that. I probably couldn't afford €650.

Asked a mate who's in his 20's, living with 3 lads. He's paying €400 for a room... I'm not paying that to live with people. So my only hope of every owning a home again is somehow winning the lotto and buying the parents house. They're leaving it in the will that for as long as I'm alive, I can live in the house but if I move out at any point, that's gone. Realistically, all it will take is for a sibling to have a bad financial time in the future and looking for their share, which I won't be able to give. And if one asks, the rest will ask... So I could be homeless yet.

freemickey

You accommodated infinite ukrainians without having to be asked, ladies and gentlemen!

And now we know what you're thinking, "how will this housing and affordability crisis be averted?"!

Well wonder no more, ladies and gentlemen, what you need is another 40,000 extra people too. You didn't know you wanted it, but your elected officials always know how to I̶n̶c̶r̶e̶a̶s̶e̶ ̶h̶o̶u̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶c̶o̶s̶t̶s̶ help you out!

https://www.businesspost.ie/news/english-says-40000-non-eu-work-permits-are-in-offing-to-ease-labour-pressures/

like the poster says above "just get a council house". Just get in line behind all the extra help arriving into the country. Simple as.

super_furry

https://twitter.com/hackertdog/status/1516691041893634050?lang=en

hayse

That Damien English is a posh paul Murphy

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119137152#Comment_119137152

You think the councils have houses for single men?!?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119137697#Comment_119137697

The local authorities do accept single people onto the housing lists (if they qualify) even if they don't have units to allocate them.

At least it means the applicant can apply for HAP, so its worth going through the motions.

But as far as I've seen, single people have a greater chance of being housed with Tuath or Cluid.

The DayDream

I also had to move home after the end of a relationship and I'm 40. I love how some people live in such a secure bubble that they would ask someone 'how could you possibly end up renting at 40?'

Well, imagine if you will, a land where you grow up in a single parent household where renting was all your family ever did, and home ownership was never explained to you. In fact, renting wasn't even explained to you but you eventually figured out how to scrape together a deposit for a room so you could move out at 19. And then work low paid jobs, finally go to college as a mature student graduate college into a recession, half the businesses in town boarded up, only option a 'jobbridge' internship (i did 2 of them!), wages ending up not any better than jobs you had before college.

Yeah, guess it's a bit mad I never managed to save 50k during all that!

My mother's house is a shared ownership scheme with the council. Once she passes on I imagine they will take it back and I'll be looking for a houseshare in my 50s that will be great craic.

Ive actually been looking for a flat to rent the last year and a half in the town i live in. There hasnt been a single 1 or 2 BR flat on daft that entire time!

There's a small piece of land on her late father's farm I could inherit from her, would be perfect to build a wee cabin on, i could probably get approved for a loan to build something like that, but you can't get planning permission for those.

Well and truly effed is what you are in this country as a single man looking for a roof over your head. I honestly would get the rope out before i go sharing with strangers at this stage of my life.

Padre_Pio

In the same boat here.

LL selling the house. I've gotten a few viewings on Daft, but seems every time I go there's a family with young kids also viewing the place.

No way a LL is going to turn away a couple with a baby or young child.

Fortunately, I've saved enough to buy a house, just waiting on mortgage approval now.

hayse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119137697#Comment_119137697

Do I need to answer questions twice?

Kimbot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119134453#Comment_119134453

Regardless of what he can or cant afford he might earn too much to even apply for a council home!!!

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119137738#Comment_119137738

That poster is so detached from the reality of the situation regarding housing for single adult males that he thinks we’re back in the 60s when there were houses for everyone.

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119137917#Comment_119137917

So you genuinely have never become aware that there’s a chronic shortage of local authority housing stock.

Montage of Feck

I know I'm a miserable bastard but I'm increasingly coming to the conclusion that not bothering is the way to go with most things in modern society.

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119129660#Comment_119129660

Not some, it's the reality for almost all men in a marriage breakdown, especially if there are children involved.

It's really only exceptional cases where something else happens.