German UN Delegation Laughing at Trump

MyLove4Satan

This is fascinating to watch now in light of how the world has basically fallen apart since Biden rigged the 2020 election. It'll be fascinating to watch what happens when Trump is president again in 2024. On every level the man has been vindicated. Yet some people are far too middle class to admit they were wrong about him or were easily led by mass media propaganda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOAqlOxOgSg

Are you just back from maternity leave at the factory or something?

silliussoddius

Shouldn’t you be warning us about Bill Gates and Monkey pox?

StupidLikeAFox

He was spot on there in fairness

Captain Barnacles

Yep Germany a **** disaster regarding energy, they shut a load of clean nuclear plants because of the green (haha the irony) lunatic movement, now they need to open coal plants to fill the demand gap, plus now even worse since they can't use Russian energy anymore - more coal plants re opened.

Emissions have spiked in Germany since the shift to renewals, well done greens.

timmyntc

Ignoring the rigged election and 2024 part, yes he was vindicated on that one. And on the so-called Sinophobic relations - now we dont like China, whereas when Trump was in and he didnt like China, we loved them because we couldnt possibly agree with Trump. Despite China putting Uighurs in camps, crushing democracy in Hong Kong, investing big in African and South American countries (look at how many ports etc China owns worldwide).

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119113256#Comment_119113256

Who's "we"?

Did Trump have a policy ready to go to react to the disgusting Uyghers crimes? Nah, he was like a kid finding out that things outside their house exist permanently. I laughed when he said "Jina" because he didn't even really pronounce the name of the world's most populous country properly.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119113256#Comment_119113256

Bollox. China's antics in areas like IP and their Belt & Road Initiative have been known about for a long time. Trump hated them because he's a racist and China is the world's second superpower.

It's frankly a bit unhinged that this is being brought up years later as if we were somehow wrong about Trump. He presided over millions of preventable deaths, the worst decline in race relations in years, unparalleled corruption and, so far as I can tell, achieved anything positive whatever for the American working classes.

sam t smith

The Germans are a great bunch of lads (and lassies).

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119117391#Comment_119117391

Belt & Road has nothing to do with Chinese investments in Africa, South America, and the Balkans.

Pre-Trump China was perceived as a not much of a threat, or at least any threat they posed was overlooked by the fact they were the worlds factory and supplied the US (and beyond) with cheap manufacturing. When Trump brought in protectionist policies designed to bring manufacturing back to the US from China it was decried as racist etc, but now the US are reaping the rewards of that particularly in semiconductor manufacturing. Were the US not to onshore more of the semiconductor manufacturing and China to take Taiwan they would be totally screwed, whereas now they would be significantly less so as more of these projects come on stream.

Under the Trump admin it was sinophobic and racist to consider the Chinese a threat, whereas now only a few years later they are widely recognised as such and its not controversial at all to criticise China now

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119117646#Comment_119117646

Of course it does.

The rest of this is just revisionist Trumpster nonsense. Trump babbled on and on about China while heaping praise on its leader Xi Jinping as well as Putin and other authoritarian strongmen.

Trump did nothing but play golf, promote conspiracy theories and incite riots. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died as a result.

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119117664#Comment_119117664

Trump did nothing but play golf, promote conspiracy theories and incite riots. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died as a result.

Now this is revisionist nonsense. For starters, I suppose the 100k+ americans dead you are referring to is from covid?

More people died from covid in US post-Trump than during Trump admin for starters. Less than 500k people died from covid by the time of Bidens inauguration, now that figure stands at over 1million. And thats with the benefit of vaccinations being around for all of Biden's presidency.

It's like a compulsion people have to insist that everything Trump did was wrong lol. If he said the sky was blue youd say it was a lie 🤣

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119117718#Comment_119117718

100k+? Seriously? It's closer to a million now.

If you've any sources, please post them. Otherwise, yes. I can conclude that this is the sort of twaddle Trump's cult have been peddling for years.

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119117756#Comment_119117756

You said hundreds of thousands, so I said 100k+ in relation to your claim.

You're correct, the real figure is above a million now as I said in my post if you'd read it. Over half of that million occurred during Biden's term as president, even when he had vaccines available as a measure to fight it.

The "never trump" delusion goes on

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119117818#Comment_119117818

Almost as if someone went on a concerted attempt to dissuade people from getting the vaccine. Someone so poisonous that Twitter had to ban them after they promoted a white supremacist coup.

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119117849#Comment_119117849

Can you point to anything anti- covid vaccine from Trump? The man lauds himself for creating the "fastest vaccine in history". He has been pro-vaccine on covid and always asked for americans to get his "great" vaccines. The best, fastest, most wonderful etc.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119117971#Comment_119117971

Let put this to you as simply as I can: Trump is a liar, a fraud, a charlatan and a moron.

Anti-vaccination profiles on Twitter tend to be more engaged in discussions and rely on a more interconnected social network compared to their pro-vaccination counterparts, according to new research published in PLOS One. The study also indicates that former President Donald Trump was one of the key nodes in the anti-vaccination network.

https://www.psypost.org/2021/06/study-indicates-donald-trump-was-the-main-anti-vaccination-influencer-on-twitter-in-2020-61032

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119117988#Comment_119117988

Ah right. So in conclusion you have no proof of his trying to persuade anyone not to take vaccines, but because you personally dislike Trump you will try and blame him for the covid deathrates under the next president, Biden. Right. Good man, very logical.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119118001#Comment_119118001

I provided proof and you ignored it. Typical Trumpster tactic.

Can you substantiate your claims above?

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119118007#Comment_119118007

Your "proof" is that several anti-vaxxer twitter users also interacted with/posted on Donald Trump's tweets. The article even says itself that Trump did not make "overt anti-vaccination statements as president". That does not equate to him going on "a concerted attempt to dissuade people from getting the vaccine" as you earlier claimed. So far you have provided no evidence that he attempted to dissuade anyone from getting the covid vaccine.

All you have proved is you have a huge chip on your shoulder 🤣

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119118031#Comment_119118031

So nothing then. Just conspiracy theories. Thanks.

By the way:

Our data demonstrate that Donald Trump, before his profile was suspended, was the main driver of vaccine misinformation on Twitter.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0247642

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119118042#Comment_119118042

Poor excuse for an academic paper if thats their conclusion. From their own paper:

We identify former US President Donald Trump as the main influencer in the anti-vaccination web. Despite him not having published direct anti-vaccination tweets in recent times, Donald Trump consistently shared anti-vaccine contents in the past, often associating vaccines to autism.

An infamous tweet from 2014 implying a link between child vaccines and autism, not exactly the anti-covid conspiracy pushing you state he is so fond of.

So yet again, the idea that he tried to persuade people not to get covid vaccines is a falsehood promoted by yourself.

https://time.com/6146907/donald-trump-covid-19-vaccines-base/

In late January, a blast of fundraising emails for Donald Trump featured a “MUST-SEE: New Trump Ad” that, among other things, championed Trump’s role in creating a COVID-19 “vaccine in record time, saving millions of lives.”

Two weeks earlier, in an interview on the far-right One America News, Trump criticized “gutless” politicians, including Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, who haven’t said if they’ve gotten the COVID-19 booster shot. “You gotta say it, whether you had it or not. Say it,” Trump said. “But the fact is that I think the vaccines saved tens of millions throughout the world.”

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Trump’s vocal backing of COVID-19 vaccines puts the former President in a new, and possibly vulnerable, political position

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Trump told his supporters at the August rally in Alabama. “But I recommend, take the vaccines. I did it. It’s good. Take the vaccines.” A wave of boos went through the crowd.

Ready to admit you were wrong?

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119118082#Comment_119118082

"In recent times". He's been pushing anti-vaxx conspiracy guff for literally years.

Are you seriously pretending that Trump's panhandling emails are somehow equal to a scientific study? It's like a demented, grubby little cult. You're fawning over the ultimate American loser. He lost the popular vote, he's wrecked countless businesses, been bankrupt multiple times and has had to pay women to touch his wretched, bloated orange form.

Your Time link is from 2022. He was pushing the anti-vaxx stuff for years before that. His U-turn now is meaningless. The damage is done.

Going back to find this incident from years ago in a pathetic attempt to get anyone not on the American far right to admit being wrong is frankly deranged. His presidency was worse than anyone could have predicted.

Danzy

What ever else about him and if he had any self control at all he would have won reelection by a landslide.

He was spot on about Germany but it would not have been him that pointed out that Merkel, and an entire slew of German political, business leadership were Russian controlled, that would have been the Intelligence services.

He did try to draw attention to it though.

The damage done to Europe will take years to overcome.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058247371/german-un-delegation-laughing-at-trump

A broken clock is right twice a day. Doesn't mean its not broken.

Danzy

If European politicians, wider leadership etc had listened would Putin have Invaded Ukraine, if his key assets had been called out.

Germany wasn't just undermining its own interests but wider European democracy and economies.

Germany still needs to be forced to pick the side of democracy in Europe, that basic human rights, the right to life, trump* any loyalty to Moscow, covert or otherwise. That the right to exist in a democratic state does not stop on the eastern border of Germany, that favourable trade deals with Moscow do not negate those rights.

*Pun intended.

Flinty997

I think Putin has proved he doesn't really listen to anyone else, or common sense.

So while a dumb move by the Germans I don't think it emboldened Putin.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119118582#Comment_119118582

It was not a dumb move, it was highly strategic and gave him more dominance over European energy than he would have otherwise.

It might not have been explained to Merkel, Scholz and Schroeder in that blunt fashion but they knew that their orders were purely about Moscow's needs.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119118383#Comment_119118383

He wasn't. He was spouting guff about things he has no capacity to understand.

Let's be honest, NordStream is going to age like milk. It's a bad look but Germany isn't the only Western state doing dodgy deals with insalubrious powers. It's odd that you criticise Merkel for doing such a deal but Trump's simpering over Putin seems to be absolutely fine.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119118687#Comment_119118687

Dumb for Germany not Putin.

But he's now thrown all those gains away. Which was dumb

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119118714#Comment_119118714

Simpering is talk. Having the head of Nordstream be an ex KGB colleague of Putin is at a different level.

There are people in Putin's cabinet who are long term supporters of his who have not delivered for him like Merkel did.

It wasn't just a dodgy deal, Angela was told what to do and that was it.

In fairness to Russia, compromising so much of German politics is an incredible achievement and many years in the making.