Do speed vans take pictures of the driver?

Orlak2410

Could I say that a named driver was driving the car when it was caught by a speed can and get away with it? Not saying I'm doing it but just in theory because I was done by a Garda with a speed gun and feel it might be unfair if people can get away with it with speed vans.

Victor

They do take photos. As to whether they perfectly capture the driver is another matter. If you get a ticket in the post, you can ask for the full photo.

mikeecho

You can say whatever you want.

Take your chances, and take your punishment, just like getting caught for speeding.

Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.

rolling boh

not saying it should be done but what what you are asking about is quite common I know from work a fair few foreign driver names were given in and i never heard of any follow up .Be warned it is against the law to do so obviously .I also wonder would asking for the picture would it make them think you were considering something fishy .

Orlak2410

I appreciate you taking the time to reply but your answer is not in any way helpful

Orlak2410

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118970573#Comment_118970573

I have heard of it before but don't know whether it's just the reg that's taken or the whole front off the car. I've gotten m50 toll letters before and they take a pic of the whole front of the car but from an upper angle so the driver can't be seen.

Orlak2410

Also does anyone know if there is a 10 percent upper leeway like there is in England?

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118970621#Comment_118970621

There is no formal leeway and people have been done for being just over the speed limit. However, most gardai won't pursue anything close to the limit.

Also bear in mind that your speedo will probably be under-reading - your speedo was showing your speed at something higher than what you were caught at - difficult to argue your way out of that.

Doesn't matter anyhow as you be been done according to your first post.

Orlak2410

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118970710#Comment_118970710

I was doing 69 in a 60 zone when I was done by that Garda. I suppose my question was about the vans do they allow for leeway? I have noticed that the speedometer usually reads about 5 km above what a speed sign will read. Is that a common deviation in most cars?

Seth Brundle

Speedometers legally cannot under-read (saying that you are going slower than you actually are).*

There is no leeway. The vans take pictures of all cars exceeding the speed limit and to my knowledge these are all examined manually by a garda who makes the decision on which ones to pursue.

Anyhow, you've been done. Why are you trying to weasel out of it now? If you were afraid of a fine or points then you should have had a lighter right foot!

* I erroneously said earlier that your speed was "under-reading" whereas I should have said that it was over-reading

Orlak2410

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118970774#Comment_118970774

I was happy with your helpful advice before but now I sense a nasty tone. I am not trying to weasel out of it that was months ago I am just asking to compare the procedures with manual detections like a speed gun and automated detections like the vans. Does a person manually go through them and decide which ones to pursue? Taking into account time of day, following traffic behind a speeding car etc.

JayPS 2288

Edit: misread your post.

wonski

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118970613#Comment_118970613

M50 cameras can show the driver.

If yiu have an account with them you can see the photos clearly showing whole car, not just the registration number

mikeecho

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118970812#Comment_118970812

If you're not trying to weasel out.. just pay the fine , with the correct driver details.

Anything else is weaseling out.

Orlak2410

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118971091#Comment_118971091

Didn't come on here for a lesson in morality want to find out procedures and protocol only of which is available to the public and I am entitled to know

Tippman24

The vans are not set up to capture an image of the driver of the vehicle. The function of the camera is primarily to capture the registration number of the vehicle.

Orlak2410

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118971224#Comment_118971224

That's what I thought I don't think they care who takes the wrap as long as someone is getting 3 penalty points and an 80 quid fine

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118971203#Comment_118971203

Presably then you have already contacted AGS about your entitlement to know their procedures so what did they say?

"Entitled" FFS! 🙄

FishOnABike

Considering a 'speed van' can monitor five lanes of traffic, including the opposite side of a dual carriageway (provided there's no barrier obstructing it's view) I'd say it's safe to bet the full image would be enough to include the whole vehicle, including driver if driving towards the camera.

AnRothar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058243054/do-speed-vans-take-pictures-of-the-driver

Judge accuses Fianna Fáil councillor of telling ‘a pack of lies’

Alan O’Callaghan said a Nigerian friend and not him drove 4x4 when it was seen speeding

Doesn't always work out.

Orlak2410

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118971270#Comment_118971270

If you have nothing nice or helpful to say then just leave this thread alone

Orlak2410

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118971277#Comment_118971277

Yeah I'm not doubting its capabilities but I'm wondering if they match up the pics of the offender with the corresponding person who claims to have been driving the car when it was speeding

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118971314#Comment_118971314

I'm sorry that I'm not in a position to advise you on breaking the law under the pretext of discovering the procedures that AGS follow and which you are apparently entitled to know.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118970743#Comment_118970743

I was doing 69 in a 60 zone when I was done by that Garda

Are you the one "Carla" who was in the papers a few years back filming herself getting "done" by the Gardai?

It's very dangerous to be attempting 69 while driving. And in a 60 zone no less. How did you manage to see here you were going?

Orlak2410

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118971473#Comment_118971473

Very funny but no it wasn't me I keep that to the bedroom and if I ever did in a car it would be parked

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118971484#Comment_118971484

You could invest in one of those self-driving Teslas

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

They can capture the driver, it depends on the angle, and the time of day. If it’s dark outside, you’ll probably be grand. But if it’s broad daylight, you could be f*cked. Email them, request the photo, then decide your next move based on that. If you want to know more, PM me.

Orlak2410

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118971523#Comment_118971523

Thanks a lot

macvin

Speed detection vans capture the image of every vehicle that passes.

Doesn't matter whether it's 40kmh or 140kmh.

The image they send you is a zoomed image of the number plate.

The image they have is a full image of the vehicle.

In the UK you can be caught on the phone by speed cameras.

Orlak2410

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118971786#Comment_118971786

Thanks

Whocare

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058243054/do-speed-vans-take-pictures-of-the-driver

Yes do it all time in transport companies I work in irish never get caught speeding always the Romanian man (irish driver usually give him 100 for troubles