So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX **Threadbans in OP**

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118974900#Comment_118974900

Do you have a facebook?

A microsoft windows PC?

have you ever purchased anything from Amazon?

Do you boycott websites that use Amazon Web Services?

Also actually, are you aware that one of the board members of twitter up to now has been the crown prince of saudi arabia?

If none of the above megalomaniac billionaires bother you, then why Elon Musk buying twitter?

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118974909#Comment_118974909

Maybe I am a shareholder. Maybe I’m not. Maybe you’re a musk super fan. Maybe you are not. Maybe it just bothers you musk made a fool of himself arguing tunnels don’t experience weather, idgaf, just happy to point out the man is a fool. Cape for him if ya want.

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118974921#Comment_118974921

“Despite videos you’re seeing and despite three inches of rain in two hours, the system actually performed quite well,” she said. “Drains cleared flooding in most places efficiently; service was not terribly impacted in many places.”

Also that event coincided with severe street level flooding, so in that case the subway tunnels fared similarly to streets above. You clearly have a hatred of the man which you are entitled to, but this whataboutery about tunnels is bizarre

sam t smith

Should the CEO of Twitter be expected to have a ‘PhD in Tunnel Engineering’?

Does the current CEO have one?

Does Overhear have one?

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118974922#Comment_118974922

I think we know who is bothered here.

seamus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118974900#Comment_118974900

Fair. Though it's not like the leadership up to now have been Mahatma Ghandi to be fair. They've allowed disinformation and hate to propagate across the platform as far as the law will allow. Because it's a good money maker. They only banned Trump when there was a possibility they'd be held accountable for sedition against the US government.

Any road, I'm sure there'll be plenty of copycats along soon enough. There's nothing technically difficult in these platforms. The hard part is funding the infrastructure to make it run quickly and stop it collapsing under the weight of nazis and criminals by moderating content.

Twitter's a very hateful ranty place at the best of times. With any luck it'll just atrophy and go away like Facebook has.

sam t smith

Thread has taken a strange turn.

Regardless, looks like a deal is close.

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118974934#Comment_118974934

I'm not a fan of Musk myself and I detest his army of fans (I think the hero worship/real life iron man bollocks that surrounds him is absolutely pathetic) but he is free to buy twitter if they will sell it to him. And if he buys it he will be free to run it in the manner he sees fit.

I really can't see the problem with that tbh. But it looks like you have a problem with that. Are you afraid he will change the platform to elevate views on the right? Is that it? The obvious answer would be to take your clicks somewhere else if you don't like it.

His intelligence or knowledge of anything or lack thereof is completely irrelevant.

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118974955#Comment_118974955

There are already 101 clones out there, but none of them really competed with twitter.

We might see a further fragmentation of the internet and social media, with everyone going on to their own platform that aligns with their ideals, more echo chambers and so on. Which while it wouldnt be a great thing, it would be terrible either. More decentralization is always a good thing.

That said if twitter does go private realistically not much will change, moderation will change slightly - more consistent with threats/incitement to hatred, less censorship for the very weak "hate speech" (trans women are no- BANNED).

People will give out stink about musk buying twitter and its dangerous and then end of the world but most people are lazy and will stay on the platform complaining about it while not doing the slightest thing to migrate elsewhere

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118974943#Comment_118974943

Do you need to be a civil engineer now to know that tunnels flood? Jesus the education standards have gone downhill. Like all that water into the subway.

sam t smith

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118975003#Comment_118975003

And as has been pointed out a few times in this thread, flooding can be handled and is one of considerations of tunnel design.

nullzero

Twitter has been de-platforming people it's owners dislike for years now.

To everyone who shares their worldview this has been wonderful, they are a private company, we should accept that they have the right to ban anyone they like from their platform, these particular stars have aligned for those who agree with this way of dealing with opinions they don't agree with.

Now there's potential for someone who doesn't share this ideology to possibly take over ownership of Twitter the same people who were happy to be the beneficiaries of the de-platforming Twitter has imposed on those they disagree with are now horrified by the potential of their own tactics being used against them.

Well boo hoo.

In the end Twitter and platforms like it are difficult to run in an egalitarian manner, but private companies can change ownership and this situation is a timely reminder that stringent measures that target certain groups of people can end up going from something you see as a positive to a total negative.

Personally I don't have much of an opinion on Musk, switch one mega rich person out for another, some people seem to be really delighted or upset about it which puzzles me.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118975012#Comment_118975012

Works great when you have a tunnel 1000s of feet above sea level, on the blue ridge parkway or something, not the subway, below sea level, the example musk mentioned specifically.

magicbastarder

https://twitter.com/asymmetricinfo/status/1518588383303503873

there's a short thread under that

Overheal, he was having a conversation about Hyperloop, a closed system with a vacuum. There is no water getting into it because that would mean it failed catastrophically. The weather won't be the cause of it.

You are as usual reading biased sources like Gizmodo which try to make him out to be an idiot, but it is absolutely a fact that the weather won't be dripping into vacuumed tunnels with trains moving at 700mph.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118974922#Comment_118974922

Because he's a gimp? He's the billionaire version of Paddy Cosgrave

seamus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118975031#Comment_118975031

Everything in this points to Musk dragging the stock price up as far as he think it'll go on the markets. It's up nearly 10% over the weekend and up 25% overall since he bought it. Drag it up to about $52/share, sell as much of his stake as he can get away with without having to tell anyone and then formally withdraw his offer.

He walks away with nearly $1bn in profit in just a month, the share price collapses and the management of Twitter potentially find themselves on the chopping block. Win-win for Musk tbh.

Or, maybe he is insanely petty and vindictive and will buy Twitter just to prove he can.

magicbastarder

Personally I don't have much of an opinion on Musk, switch one mega rich person out for another, some people seem to be really delighted or upset about it which puzzles me.

ah, he's the proud erect figurehead of an obnoxious billionaire. someone bleating about free speech and taking over twitter, with a history like his (calling someone a paedo, punishing people who criticise his products) is not exactly welcome news.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118975034#Comment_118975034

That's a solid attempt at Revisionism there but here is the tweet again,

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1518359943967121408?s=20&t=vmCbzLJdvOoFWFozxXDJbw

"(subways are a good example)" ... "if a hurricane was raging on the surface. You wouldn't even notice."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHl2C8NA6Eg

Where did I link to, or mention Gizmodo? Huh?!

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118975031#Comment_118975031

The author there completely misses the point. Owning news media is often an unprofitable endeavour, but you still have the wealthy owning and retaining these loss making institutions. That's because, by controlling the narrative, they can make their other businesses more successful.

If musk managed to use Twitter to get federal changes to EV policy in his favour for example, the 40bn + he'll pay will look like chump change.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118975057#Comment_118975057

No, you didn't. Elon did. Big tunnel guy that guy.

And what a success it was...

https://thenextweb.com/news/the-boring-company-fails-to-excite-with-cars-in-tunnels

Tunnel CEO thinks he knows how to run a successful social media company after a 'successful' tunnel company.

magicbastarder

twitter won't be twitter if he's 'controlling the narrative' though; unlike say rupert murdoch setting editorial policy in a newspaper he owns, the content on twitter is created by the customers, not just consumed by them. so i don't think the analogy is too apt.

sam t smith

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118975093#Comment_118975093

What has this post got to do with this thread?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118975079#Comment_118975079

Yes, it's called a mistake. I said he was talking Hyperloop, which he was. It wasn't revisionism.

If you want to use that as your basis for calling him stupid, go ahead. It is exactly the sort of spectacle I was expecting.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118975096#Comment_118975096

This. And it's why it doesn't matter if the execs of Twitter aren't tweeting very often if at all, Twitter doesn't exist to listen to these people talk, it's to listen to regular people talk.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118975097#Comment_118975097

Elon Musk, the CEO of the Boring Company, wants to buy Twitter, a platform he ran off to to declare subways were a great example of tunnels that were immune to surface weather conditions. He is confidently incorrect about that, and it surely makes one wonder if Elon really has any idea (or, honest motivation) of how to run a successful social media platform, or if it's all just Pump and Dump. I figure the latter, and he will say dumb things like subways are immune to the elements just to attract Engagement (that or he really has no business in that industry).

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118975093#Comment_118975093

Who hurt you?

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118975096#Comment_118975096

The narrative on twitter can be steered though through the voices you allow and the voices the algorithm promote.

And because traditional media is so lazy these days, they will pick it up, becoming their talking points.

One eyed Jack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118975031#Comment_118975031

Just on one point in that thread:

He can certainly order people to take the heavy hands off the ban-hammer, but day in and day out, it is still lower level employees who will be making the ban decisions, because no one wants an actually unmoderated platform full of spam and child porn.

I’m wondering how the author may not have heard of 8chan, an unmoderated platform full of spam and child porn.

Personally, I figure Musk couldn’t give a fiddlers about free speech, but he is fully aware of the type of individual who does, and attracting them to a platform full of advertising for Tesla products, isn’t the worst marketing idea in the world…

Tesla butt wipes, anyone?

magicbastarder

The narrative on twitter can be steered though through the voices you allow

well, that puts paid to any notion that it's about free speech so, which is in theory a large part of his interest.

sam t smith

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118975127#Comment_118975127

A rant about Subways?

Seriously?