So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX **Threadbans in OP**

hoodie6029

The quietness of this thread lately is really telling of how downhill twitter has gone, it’s just not relevant anymore.

Had to laugh at the headlines yesterday suggesting that Musk would fund a challenge to hate speech legislation here, where would he get the money?? Twitter sunk, Tesla heading downward. He certainly isn’t going to dip into his own pocket for something like that. His MO is to talk big and promise money and never be heard from again. Wasn’t he promising billions to end world hunger a couple of year ago?

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121672190#Comment_121672190

Down 28% in the last month, safe to say that the tech bros have had their day and Tesla will now be looked at like a car company.

pixelburp

Surprised it hasn't been noted here re. the ongoing trashfire that is the Taylor Swift deepfake controversy: this feels like the chickens truly coming home to roost, the first major fallout from gutting the moderation team and methodology. A huge issue that went without response and by the time Twitter actually looked at it, it was too late to put the genie back in the bottle.

To be a fly on the wall when in desperation, someone suggested just blocking any searches for the words "Taylor Swift". Presumably what's left of Moderation is currently burning the midnight oil trying to fix the issue.

And such is the reach of Swift it has resulted in the White House making a statement on the issue. Maybe if there's one small good thing to come out of this, it'll be that finally some legislation takes shape trying to curtail the potential abuse of deepfakes.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/jan/28/taylor-swift-x-searches-blocked-fake-explicit-images

VinLieger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121691657#Comment_121691657

Just heard about this as well, absolute karma for what he did to the moderation team in the name of "free speech".

Quiet Achiever

I can't search for anything at all. If i try to type letters in the search bar it crashes 2 letters in

BorneTobyWilde

For hundreds of years artists have been painting and creating nude images of women, and from their skills, and mind, and without consent of those women drawn, these paintings now hang in the best museums around the world, and are celebrated, fast forward to 2024, now digital creators are doing the same , one is celebrated, ones a crime.

I'm not agreeing with what is going on with digital art today, I'm just pointing out how it's going on since man learned to paint.

hoodie6029

https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/30/24056177/elon-musk-tesla-tornetta-55-billion-pay-package-rejected

That’s gotta sting!

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121697865#Comment_121697865

Dribbling nonsensical attempt at "justifying" scumbags creating fake nudes of women that would never go near them...

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698063#Comment_121698063

You must have missed this line ''I'm not agreeing with what is going on with digital art today, I'm just pointing out how it's going on since man learned to paint.''

So no I don't agree with it, I'll TYPE IT LARGE FOR YOU, YOU CAN'T JUSTIFY IT. But it has been going on for 100s of years, which is my point.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698077#Comment_121698077

Not , it hasn't though.

Care to give a few examples of "art hanging in the best Museums" where the nude is A) Created without the consent of the subject and B) A recognisable and identifiable person?

Are there many paintings of Queen Victoria with her baps out hanging in the National Gallery?

Painting a generic "nude lady" is not the same as creating a digital photo of Taylor Swift or some other recognisable female celebrity getting railed by a giant dildo...

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698096#Comment_121698096

It's hard to argue with someone I agree with.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121697865#Comment_121697865

Give an example of a museum piece where the picture was made without the subject's consent. That's pretty impressive given it was often tough to paint a subject without them, ya know, sitting there in front of you. Cos I can't think of any and think you're playing devil's advocate for its own sake.

And the almost indistinguishable fidelity, the mass distribution, and obvious exponentially more problematic specific that is porn, is the clear deliberating problem in all this. There's no real analog here despite claiming there is.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698077#Comment_121698077

Except ai images effectively mine existing copyrighted images to produce the result. So even ignoring the crassness of it and attempt to present these as real images. The actual images are built off real images of Swift. And it amounts to inputting a command to an AI, it wouldn't even legally be recognized as something they created iirc.

McFly85

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1752098683024220632?s=46&t=RTezIGdvNh_98cu5QL82hw

Elons wish for a nightmare dystopian future continues apace.

And, predictably, a quick look at what neuron spike detection is shows it’s mostly gibberish, and at best can be described as a normal working brain. I recall him doing the same about Twitters “code stack” on multiple occasions - wanting to sound smart and coming off as clueless.

VinLieger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698483#Comment_121698483

Indeed what this amounts to is "we put something on/in the brain and it didn't kill them", while that in itself is an achievement there's nothing to show the neuralink has made any actual connection to the brain or is functioning in the way Elon is claiming it will do.

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121697865#Comment_121697865

....

pixelburp

Those of the gaming persuasion will appreciate that canny internet people have already noted how eerily reminiscent Musk's tweet about the neuralink reads. Via the Gaming Humour thread here. To whit:

https://twitter.com/MikeIrvo/status/1752123455125016839

https://twitter.com/Jackablade/status/1752243723826848101

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698508#Comment_121698508

Also saw it noted online that the whole thing is technology that has been working for years, the only thing Musk's company has done is put the technology inside someone's head rather than it being fitted on the outside of someone's head. So all Musk's company has done is increase the chance of necrotising fasciitis.

Christy42

Obviously hoping for the best from neural ink because hey why not help those that really need some independence but he has a history of exaggerating.

More comedy than horror but he comes off as the ceo from apature science in portal.

McFly85

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698603#Comment_121698603

I wondered about that - if the goal is essentially telepathy - having a process or therapy where we can have a computer interpret someone’s thoughts into words accurately enough to be a significant benefit over current methods - why are they focusing on the invasive medical procedure?

Surely the best way would be to use current methods to prove that the use case is viable, and all that needs to happen after that is to make the process smaller?

Im probably giving Elon too much credit here though, and likely the latest announcement and trial is simply to secure more funding.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698669#Comment_121698669

Unfortunately he also has a habit of "You need to pay a subscription fee to use your ring and small fingers, and if you experience any issues with your neural implant you can only get it fixed at one of our hospitals that we got government grants for at the expense of other general hospitals, and we'll shut all our hospitals down if we don't get more grants."

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121697865#Comment_121697865

"For hundreds of years artists have been painting and creating nude images of women, and from their skills, and mind, and without consent of those women drawn"

So you would be fine with an "artist" taking pictures of tour wife, daughter, sister and using her image to create porn?

Artists have been making pics of naked children for centuries too, should we now allow pedophiles to create these images without risk of prosecution? Should they be able to use then"its art" defence?

pixelburp

Meanwhile, away from bizarre attempts at moral equivalence: Musk has to hand back $55 billion it seems. Rich People's Problems, eh?

DOVER, Del. (AP) — Elon Musk is not entitled to landmark compensation package awarded by Tesla’s board of directors that is potentially worth more than $55 billion, a Delaware judge ruled Tuesday.

The ruling by Chancellor Kathaleen St. Jude McCormick comes more than five years after a shareholder lawsuit targeted Tesla CEO Musk and directors of the company. They were accused of breaching their duties to the maker of electric vehicles and solar panels, resulting in a waste of corporate assets and unjust enrichment for Musk.

The shareholder’s lawyers argued that the compensation package should be voided because it was dictated by Musk and was the product of sham negotiations with directors who were not independent of him. They also said it was approved by shareholders who were given misleading and incomplete disclosures in a proxy statement.

I'm sure Musk took it all on the chin with the grace and maturity we're used to.

But Musk reacted to the ruling on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter that he owns, by offering business advice. “Never incorporate your company in the state of Delaware,” he said. He later added, “I recommend incorporating in Nevada or Texas if you prefer shareholders to decide matters.”

https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-tesla-compensation-pay-shareholders-e75687178d1175fba36ca55bd9c4c805

francois

Live feed of social media bosses being grilled https://www.youtube.com/live/HUjv2Ky7PcM?si=6YQDxn1I2-6TtAhh

Hotblack Desiato

Not literally unfortunately

timetogo1

Not sure if already posted. It's not that long since he gutted the moderation team.

https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/29/x_moderation_hiring/

Grayson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121699029#Comment_121699029

It's worth noting that most big US companies are incorporated in Delaware because of very lax tax and finance rules. Putting it in Delaware is a very smart rule from a business perspective.

The reason the judge rules against him is because all the directors were mates of his and they signed off on his compensation package so the judge said there was insufficient oversight.

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/incorporating-in-delaware/

The most famous reason Delaware has attracted the eye of corporations across the world is the lenient taxes imposed by the state. Corporations registered in Delaware that do not do business in the state do not pay corporate income tax. Delaware also does not have a sales tax, investment income taxes, inheritance taxes or personal property taxes. While companies do have to pay a franchise tax to register in Delaware, this can be pennies compared to the income tax other states would charge. Nationwide companies that do conduct business in Delaware can still skirt the in-state income tax by establishing subsidiary or shell companies that hold various intangible assets but do not directly run business operations.

So moving out of Delaware might be better for Musk and he'd get more money from Tesla, but it's worse for the company and shareholders because the company would pay more taxes.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121703796#Comment_121703796

So moving out of Delaware might be better for Musk and he'd get more money from Tesla, but it's worse for the company and shareholders because the company would pay more taxes.

Which is why he probably will move it , because it's all about Elon...

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121704068#Comment_121704068

Yup...

Tesla CEO Elon Musk on Thursday said the electric vehicle maker will hold a shareholder vote to transfer the company’s state of incorporation to Texas, after publicly lashing out at Delaware—where the company is currently incorporated—over a court decision that voided the billionaire’s massive $55.8 billion pay package.

pixelburp

So is "Taylor Swift" still blocked on Twitter's search? As always with these bushfires I do feel a degree of sympathy for the developers left in those offices, desperately trying to fashion a solution while operating on sub-standard info and access.

In other news, remember how periodically it'd be mentioned how Musk ended the sharing of child-abuse images? Yeah. Can't have been that successful cos sure enough, the old Trust and Safety team is getting new hires after the 50% cull. The fact this announcement comes before an appearance in the US Senate on the same subject is entirely coincidental I'm sure.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/27/24053003/x-content-moderation-office-child-sexual-exploitation