Reseeding 2022

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Anyone planning to do any grassland reseeding this year. Have a couple of fields underperforming and would like to do them. I know it will be expensive, but I guess there is a cost to not doing them also, and if cattle numbers are reduced a bit, then wont miss the grazing/silage as much.

Would be hoping min-till after July/August

Mooooo

Will continue as planned. Reseed with prg plus white clover on grazing block, will try a red clover mix on part of outfarm.

A Large field needs drainage work but I won't be able to stretch to it this year I reckon, so will do areas with the fastest turnaround in the next 4 weeks and reassess after that.

Reggie.

Was out 2 days ago stitching ground. Thought it was abit early but customer is always right. Should work OK as it wouldn't have struck yet

Jimbo789

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118862266#Comment_118862266

The soil temperature is still too low.

Hard Knocks

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118862266#Comment_118862266

What seed were you using?

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118862907#Comment_118862907

Like I said I don't argue with the farmer

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118863264#Comment_118863264

Agritech No 4A and 4XC. Think it was just old stock from last year. Was just patching up 17 acres

Hard Knocks

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118863447#Comment_118863447

What’s 4XC?

Think Agritech have a herbal lay, do you know much about it

weatherbyfoxer

reseeding 18 acres of silage ground here as the grasses in it are burnt out since it was intensively cut since sown in 2005,..putting 8 acres in a red clover/prg/white clover mix and the rest in a 1 cut and graze mix,..sprayed it off 10 days ago when it was mild so hope to sow it in the next fortnight be hoping to see it emerging around the 1st of may

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118864195#Comment_118864195

Is A red clover lay suitable for grazing? also will you apply for the grant?

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118863715#Comment_118863715

It's a grass mixture with no clover just grass seed. Think I have a bag of multi species in the shed I'll check

ginger22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118864328#Comment_118864328

what machine are you using

weatherbyfoxer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118864218#Comment_118864218

yea ill go for the grant,no red clover is more for silage making

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118864694#Comment_118864694

Do you think Iv i was to do it and reseed it with grass and added in some oats to bulk it up and to also cut my meal bill next winter would it work out or would I lose my grand and would it make good feeding for 400-500kg store cattle

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118864567#Comment_118864567

Guttler with front ripper

ginger22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118865714#Comment_118865714

Anyone with experience of the ERTH disc drill, was thinking of buying one.

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118866126#Comment_118866126

Don't want to seem biased on them but very mixed results on them really. Not a fan of drills myself

weatherbyfoxer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118864808#Comment_118864808

would good regular silage not feed that type of stock for the winter?

Dunedin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118865714#Comment_118865714

Can red clover be stitched into existing grass?

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118867192#Comment_118867192

Yes but it can be tricky due to it being a naked seed. It doesn't have a N capsule around it like the white clover

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118863715#Comment_118863715

Here's the agritech multi species mix. Going sowing it tomorrow

DBK1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118868528#Comment_118868528

Sorry to ask what may be a stupid question but is there a certain time of the year for sowing multi species or is it like grass and can be sown all the way through to October weather depending?

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118868968#Comment_118868968

It's really 70% grass anyways. You can sow it the same as grass mixes and time frames. I'm sowing it today just to get it out of the way on overwintered ground. Disced the area yesterday and going to run over it now with the guttler when it dries up later on

Jimbo789

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118868528#Comment_118868528

Are you sowing that mix because it was left over from last year or is there specific reason for choosing it instead of the department mix and getting the €50 off?

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118869237#Comment_118869237

I dont qualify for the dept grant. Only got it last week. Sowing it as an experiment atm. If it does OK I'll do a few more acres later in the year

Still a novice to multi species myself but I did sow about 40 acres of it for lads last year

Jimbo789

I think you are better off going with that one when not getting the grant because the department one doesn’t have enough plantain and chicory.

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118869387#Comment_118869387

Thats the issue I find with dept specs. Sometimes they don't match real life requirements

Reggie.

Stage one of the multi species experiment complete

alps

What time of the day is soil temperature taken?

straight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118871468#Comment_118871468

No stoney grey soil there...

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118873258#Comment_118873258

Oh believe me there were stones. You only have to ask my 8yr old daughter. She could tell you to the minute how long it took

Conversations 3

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Did you do any additional prep on the soil or just plough and sow?

Going to apply for the MSS from agfood and so a few acres.

Should I get the soil tested first?

Going to transition to organic this year so will have to get used to the multi sward.

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118877243#Comment_118877243

Just disced it and ran the guttler over it. There were cattle on it over the winter so well loosed up. I'd get it tested first anyways as that will let you know what you need doing or have to add after it's sown.

K.G.

Any body use a good red clover silage mix lately that they would recommend

weatherbyfoxer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118881548#Comment_118881548

if its a long term job 4kg RC 8kg PR 2kg WC

ginger22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118877330#Comment_118877330

whats the plan for the weeds

joe35

I've a few acres of very sandy ground that I'm reseeding. Would it be ok to put some of last year's horse manure on it and then run the cultivator on it. This ground was ploughed last year, in spuds.

Plan is to just cultivate, then horrow it.

Should leave a good seed bed but it's very dry ground. Burns up on a dry summer.

Thinking of putting a multi species mix in it. It's only rented ground but I have it for the next 5 years. Any recommendations on what to sow. It would just be grazing, mainly sheep.

Don't think I'm eligible for any grants as I'm only getting a herd number, hopefully tomorrow 🤞.

Birdnuts

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118894695#Comment_118894695

A wise decision cos PRG is not very drought resistant and will rapidly die off in such situations in a dry spring

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118893114#Comment_118893114

Hopefully the mss chokes them out

endainoz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118896109#Comment_118896109

Chicory is supposed to great for that.

DJ98

Reseeded a field last fall and at the moment it is completely covered in thistles that shot up in the fall, never got a chance to spray with anything. What would be the best product to use in the next month? If it means clearing the field of weeds I won't worry about removing the clover but preferably would like to keep it

Jb1989

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118904938#Comment_118904938

Purposely for thistles.

farmer2018

Has anyone tried over seeding? Is it successful?

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118914567#Comment_118914567

It does work and I do it so can seem abit biased. The management goes back on the farmer rather than the contractor after the sowing tho

farmer2018

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118918880#Comment_118918880

What's your method?

wrangler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118914567#Comment_118914567

I'm hoping to do three acres tomorrow, a neighbour has an Erth seeder.

Not a huge amount of money if it doesn't work

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118919083#Comment_118919083

Guttler greenmaster

farmer2018

Do ye spray off the existing grass or just graze it bare and then seed it?

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118919899#Comment_118919899

Can be done either way. Whichever suits the man in question.

endainoz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118922225#Comment_118922225

If sprayed off a full reseed would probably suit better no?

Oh how is the mss you did getting on?

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118922540#Comment_118922540

Can be sometimes. The stitching will work and it's alot less hassle when done right.

The MSS is just starting to show. Something is growing whatever it is. I'd say the grass won't be far behind it