RTE and EVs

Bixler3

Item on RTE news today (Sunday 13 Mar 2022) about the impact of fuel price increases on the demand for electric vehicles.

So who do they decide to interview - yes, you have guessed it - a TOYOTA dealer in the midlands who very carefully avoided

mentioning that Toyota do not in fact sell any EV model in Ireland. Ca somebody from the IEVOA please speak to RTE about

their appalling coverage of the subject of EV's.

20/20

What about the TOYOTA bZ4X.

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058237202/rte-and-evs

Toyota sell electric cars plus they have the longest history of selling hybrids in the industry. Maybe you don’t like their sales campaigns but they are just as good a source of information as any other company

Plus who is the target audience for RTE? You might be surprised a lot of them are Toyota drivers

JohnC.

Not out yet.

Orebro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118779603#Comment_118779603

"Toyota sell electrc cars" - ummm, no they don't (besides the upcoming bZ4x which isn't available yet). Hybrids are not electric cars and certainly not relevant to a dicussion on moving to electric driving.

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118779672#Comment_118779672

Hybrids are relevant, especially in regards to saving fuel.

They do sell electrics, maybe not in ireland at this exact moment but it’s not like they have zero plans for electrics

The best chnace of large rollout of electrics is the likes of Toyota selling them

Bixler3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118779603#Comment_118779603

They certainly do not sell electric cars, they sell petrol electric hybrids.

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058237202/rte-and-evs

Maybe a Toyota dealer is a good person to ask since they can tell you how many sales they've lost to other companies because customers wanted BEVs 😁

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118779701#Comment_118779701

They're not very relevant to the topic of the article which was how petrol price increases were driving EV sales

You still need petrol for a hybrid last I checked

JohnC.

And Toyota can't self charge without it!

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118779778#Comment_118779778

They are number 1 in Ireland 🤣

elperello

Toyota don't sell diesel passenger cars any more unlike a lot of other brands who sell a limited range of EV's and continue to sell diesel.

Killer K

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118779778#Comment_118779778

😂 You have seen sales figures for 2022 (and the past number of years?) Toyota are selling more new cars in Ireland than all new EVs sold here.

RTE probably went to them as they are the best selling brand at the moment (that or more likely, the researcher has a contact with that particular Toyota dealership!).

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780261#Comment_118780261

Plus huge brand loyalty.

Not unusual to have customers buying Toyotas for 25-30 years.

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780466#Comment_118780466

Toyota are a good car, fairly bland inside but the newer modes are better but they never break, they are so reliable

Of course RTE are going to use Toyota who is the favourite for their target audience and number 1 car seller in ireland

Flinty997

Some of you are missing the point.

There is no point asking someone who doesn't sell EVs about the demand for EVs.

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780425#Comment_118780425

Yep, still not relevant because the discussion was about fuel prices boosting electric vehicle sales and Toyota don't make any EVs

Most likely they just rang some random dealerships and picked the first one that answered

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780180#Comment_118780180

Nonsense, if you tow the car to the top of a hill and roll it down then it'll self charge. It's a totally valid use case 😂

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780703#Comment_118780703

They do make EV's, they are just not on sale

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780751#Comment_118780751

They still will be a dumb choice to answer the question asked.

markpb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780751#Comment_118780751

That’s some gold medal winning pedantry right there!

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780815#Comment_118780815

You should tell the IEVOA about it :-)

innrain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780815#Comment_118780815

Brand loyalty or something washing

https://insideevs.com/news/568421/ev-brand-awareness-study-usa/

This survey is from 2021 but the previous 2 years had the same 20% considering buying an EV from Toyota "in the next 12 months" even though said brand has/had no EV for sale.

Rte went where it was easy, where there is a relationship formed due to the sales person being nice to rte person. If you expected them to go to the brand which sold most EVs last year and asked if the demand increased and why you'd expected journalistic work. Instead you got the suggestion that Toyota is involved in the EV sale. And people believe it cause if it's on Rte must be true.

Gumbo

this is like asking a vegan what the local butcher quality is.

nonsense rte.

*no offence towards vegans btw

Orebro

Just read a comment on the main Motors forum where someone said they'd pay €3 per litre for petrol before they'd drive an "electric shitebox", and it has 50+ Thanks on it - kind of goes to show the mentality we have in the country so I don't think RTE are going to change minds too quickly even if they do have the wrong people on the show.

Flinty997

I don't think that was RTE intention, changing minds. It was just mindless news filler.

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118781226#Comment_118781226

It’s an American study so not what’s the relevance, plus if you look hard enough on the web you will find a study to back up what you want it to

Fsct is large scale electric cars don’t happen till Toyota etc start selling them, just look at the uptake after VW started selling

RTE knows it market so that’s why it puts Toyota on.

Flinty997

National broadcasters shouldn't really be doing a hatchet job of reporting though.

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118781335#Comment_118781335

So why didn't they interview VW or Hyundai or a mainstream brand that actually sells an EV and might be able to accurately say if they've had more interest recently?

Tbh, I don't know why they're bothering interviewing car salespeople. Most of them I've spoken to over the years barely know anything about cars, electric or otherwise

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118781295#Comment_118781295

The one thing we're guaranteed never to have a global shortage of is idiots

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118781835#Comment_118781835

I already posted why a few times

no matter who or what they do people will complain.