You've been looking in the wrong direction, the dangers are coming from the right.

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119964916#Comment_119964916

Nobody said that that "only those on the left care about human rights". The point, which has to be dumbed down for you YET AGAIN, is that the majority of people would be in favour of human rights, workers rights, voters rights, paid holidays, national health services, etc. And it was the left wing of politics that have traditionally fought for such things, not the right, who were traditionally against such ideals and fought to keep the status quo in an effort to CONSERVE it.

As a gay man, if indeed you are such, you should be well aware of the great lengths that the left went through to fight for YOUR rights to simply exist as a sexual being. It was the right who fought against those rights, for decades, until they eventually saw how much of a losing battle it really was. And with regards to the other items in the list, you can thank the Left for fighting for those things as well.

This will be the last time I reply to any of your shit in this current username. You going straight back to ignore, because life is too short.

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119965206#Comment_119965206

Nothing. Again. As always.

Also, you don't understand what a logical fallacy actually is, or if you did, you would easily defeat the argument you are categorizing as such instead of just declaring it as something like you're Michael Scott.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119965002#Comment_119965002

Can't be, you mentioning it proves it's not. Eskimo says it's entirely impossible to mention or else

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119965225#Comment_119965225

As I already said, the left deserves credit for many of the things they did and worked for in the past.

But the left of today is a mutated version of what was once a decent and progressive movement. Today, the movement has nothing to do with its traditional roots and causes, and now presents itself as middle to upper-middle class twats who are activists for things that the ordinary working person on the street does not recognize as a valuable subject.

Many of the things that you rightly say the left worked for, are now being undone by the far-left of today.

That's the difference, and that's where the actual danger to society comes from.

Not the imagined far-right / fascist threat that does not exist.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119965268#Comment_119965268

Do you have any specifics at all?

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119965229#Comment_119965229

How is this cherry picking @eskimohunt ? He is a senior member of the GOP in the US Senate, he has committee assignments, even a ranking chairmanship. He's even Herschel Walker's handler. Pretending he isn't a fair representation of the right? Laughable!

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119965268#Comment_119965268

That's the difference, and that's where the actual danger to society comes from.

Once again, I am asking you to give us examples of what is a danger to society that is in any conceivable way greater than the dangers from Brexit, War in Ukraine, Protests in Iran, resisting climate change, attempting an insurrection, removing access to Healthcare, undermining medical advice, making it harder to protest, etc etc etc.

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119965370#Comment_119965370

When you see a list like that you have to wonder why the right are such, to use another posters term, twats.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119965370#Comment_119965370

Once again, I am asking you to give us examples of what is a danger to society that is in any conceivable way greater than the dangers from Brexit, War in Ukraine, Protests in Iran, resisting climate change, attempting an insurrection, removing access to Healthcare, undermining medical advice, making it harder to protest, etc etc etc.

• Brexit cut across both left and right. Many of the earliest Brexiteers were from the far-left at the time (for example, the great Tony Benn). The Red Wall in the UK were almost exclusively traditional Labour voters etc.
• War in Ukraine has nothing to do with the right. Vladimir Putin is engaged in a personal vendetta on psychopathic revanchist grounds. 
• Nobody likes Iran in the West. The only people I've ever come across that do defend Iran tend to be anti-Western and from the far-left itself.
• Questioning climate change ain't a bad thing. Nobody can predict the future, even if you believe the environment should be greener (as I do). Science isn't a religion, we can question it.
• Abortion cuts across left and right. There are even debates within the left itself over whether it's moral for late-term abortions.
• I'm assuming medical advice refers to COVID? Much of what we were told at the time turned out to be false, actually. Look at China, who are currently following the same old, failed advice.
• Making it harder to protest? What about the people cancelled who now have no opportunity to vocally protest what they believe to be true?

Look, you're adopting the strategy of the gish-gallop - bombarding many points in the direction to one person to overwhelm them in some way. As there is no way I can spend the requisite time on each point.

The Gish gallop /ˈɡɪʃ ˈɡæləp/ is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm their opponent by providing an excessive number of arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments. In essence, it is prioritizing quantity of one's arguments at the expense of quality of said arguments.

There are many debates within and among the moderate left and moderate right.

But what you are proposing in no way proves the conclusion that the threat to Western civilisation comes from the far-right.

To the contrary, all the latest electoral evidence - whether it's from the midterms or Brazil or the UK - proves the contrary to be the case.

Anyone who claims to be right wing and lives in Europe is a moron.

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119965411#Comment_119965411

This was posted by Eskimohunt.

Lol.

BS.

Every bit.

Should be embarrassed to spend so much time on a thread, and to post this as an argument.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119965133#Comment_119965133

try 5000 years of recorded history the first homo sapiens rose about 300,000 years ago modern humans about 200,000  in Africa And I'm the one without a clue.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119965370#Comment_119965370

Basically he's on a transphobic rant but wont directly say that. And his claims about womens rights being defended by everyone apart from the far left is laughable and absurd. Basically he is suggesting that centre left and centre right disagree with/oppose trans rights. Thats just not true at all.Supporters of trans rights are not exclusively far left. Most people on the centre left and centre right support ttans rights.

RobbieTheRobber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119966061#Comment_119966061

You don't have a clue what you posted.

You never said recorded history. You posted that the entire human history was..... . And my half a Millon years figure is much closer than your 5000 year figure.

Either way whether you are talking 1000, 5000 or 500000 your statement is nonsense not supported by any evidence or fact.

<Insert hitchens razor>

Opinion presented without evidence dismissed.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119965370#Comment_119965370

You got an answer of the left winning elections threatens Western civilization

🤣🤣🤣

McHardcore

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63885028

francois

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119965268#Comment_119965268

I'm sure Mick Lynch would love the categorisation of "middle class twat"

Imagined far right threat

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/07/german-police-raids-target-far-right-reich-citizens-movement

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119966310#Comment_119966310

Whilst I'm sure the threat was legitimate, they had no chance of taking power in Germany.

They are clearly utterly delusional.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119966523#Comment_119966523

Mick Lynch makes 84,000 pounds a year. That certainly places him within the middle class threshold, yes.

If you're poor and demand better pay, you're just jealous and need to work harder.

If you've a few quid in the bank and demand better pay for the poor, you're a champagne socialist.

Some people just hate the poor.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119966686#Comment_119966686

Nobody hates the poor.

And I'd take issue with your characterisation because I certainly wouldn't call someone who demanded more pay as "jealous", I'd simply say that they are greedy. And having collective greed against an employer, who was generous enough to give you the position to begin with, is inappropriate. They signed a contract, and they should stick to the terms of that contract.

I think what happens is that those in positions of power and influence do not want the status quo to change. It suits their own personal financial interests to act as if they care about the poor.

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119966709#Comment_119966709

Ceo pay versus average employees within their company increased from about 25 times in the 70's, to over 300 times now.

Effective buying power of minimum wage hour maxed out in 1968.

Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk are wealthiest men on planet, they don't want to let their workers unionize.

Several thousand posts and two accounts in and you finally get something right in saying those in power do not want the status quo to change.

Tell me how

Someone else already posted about this, but the text gives a little more detail.

https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/status/1600405561035567104?t=q0yuyzo8wvjRBMSfbbMjvw&s=19

Leftwing activists are calling for oil to be stopped, right wing planning to overthrow governments.

One of these things is a bigger danger than the other.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119966185#Comment_119966185

Entire human history is recorded history. Or we going to go against the experts on the matter ? Human is never used outside of modern history pretty much open to correction. We not talking about the first fish that grew lungs and walked on land and developed a political stance.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119966795#Comment_119966795

Thats great maybe they could also look after people killing children also ?

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119966888#Comment_119966888

You mean people who refuse to vaccinate their children?

I hope they do look in to that. Stop these flat earth types spouting BS.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119966973#Comment_119966973

I hope they do too I got the covid jab doing my part. so did the partner many times working with old people as a healthcare worker.

Rothko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119965107#Comment_119965107

Perhaps you'd be better off refraining from getting involved in online discussions if you get so angry about it.

BruteStock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119966795#Comment_119966795

25 far-right bozo's , so what? Trivial matters.

Meanwhile Democrat run Philadelphia is under curfew because of soft-on-crime looney left DA's. When young men are being shot dead day in day out , who gives a rats ass about 25 goons in Germany believing they can overthrow the government.

Innocent people are dying every day because of radial leftist policies in Democrat run cities. Criminal cases withdrawn or dismissed by progressive DA Larry Krasner have risen to 67%. When these lunatics are in power , innocent people lose their lives.

Krasner fired 31 prosecutors when he took office and hired, in many cases, attorneys who agree with his legal philosophy but have less experience. Dozens have since left.

During Krasner’s tenure, the conviction rate in gun possession cases plunged from 63% in 2017 — the year before he was sworn in — to 49% two years later. And of all offenses, 30% were either dismissed or withdrawn in 2016, and that steadily increased to 67% in 2021, according to data published by the District Attorney’s Office.

On a top 50 list of most dangerous cities in the world , TWO US cities make the top 25. Are they Democrat run? You bet. St Louis and Baltimore. No Republican run cities are featured in the top 50

https://eu.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/travel/news/2019/07/24/most-dangerous-cities-world-tijuana-caracas-cape-town/1813211001/

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119967312#Comment_119967312

Imagine trying to call an attempted coup in Germany of all places a trivial matter simply for being entrenched from conceding the title of the thread.

SafeSurfer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119922915#Comment_119922915

The minstrels and other portrayals of black people were caricatures. Drag artists are the same. Excluding Miriam O Callahan, drag artist portrayals of women are inaccurate, offensive and imho not funny. Embarrassing and cringeworthy yes but funny, no.