Unemployed diabetic man afraid of catching Covid in the post office

Deeec

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118599045#Comment_118599045

If someone has a legitimate reason for being unemployed for a short time than fair enough. Many unemployed people don't have legitimate reasons though for turning their noses up at certain jobs.

At the moment there are loads of jobs where they literally need you to start working now. It literally is as easy as finishing a job on Friday and have something to start the following Monday. Anyone that wants to work at the moment can get a job.

Deeec

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118599154#Comment_118599154

Most of the supermarkets and hotels near me are employing over 50s because they have a good work ethic.

road_high

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118599522#Comment_118599522

Hearing that more and more from employer’s -they want older staff as they’re generally far more responsible and have an actual jot of common sense.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118598001#Comment_118598001

Farm hands are well educated, highly trained experts. Most earn good wages as their skills are in demand. The rest of your post is rubbish also

Geuze

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118599045#Comment_118599045

If you are a family carer, you are not entitled to JSA.

There are Carers payments for that.

Also, disability is not a reason for JSA.

There are Disability payments for that.

Mrs OBumble

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118601729#Comment_118601729

Not seeing it around here.

Lillyfae

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118601729#Comment_118601729

Ya I liked the post but if I think about it realistically it's not the case in reality. In my local supermarket there used to be loads of young people working there and it was very well run, clean, organised. They've all left in the past year, possibly to take up jobs doing test and trace etc. They've hired a few sourpuss 50+ who seem to spend alot of time hanging around smoking by the door, complaining, talking to each other over customer's heads. They're always out of the basics, the place is a mess with shelf stacking going on at the busiest of times and I've accidentally purchased very out of date stock that I've had to return later, being interrogated about it even though they'd know me to see. So actually I think give younger people a chance and train them well and they're far better than 90% of 50 year olds doing the same job.

@Geuze

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118603372#Comment_118603372

Who said anything about JSA, @Geuze? Jobseekers' allowance (JSA) is just one element of what's being discussed here.

Disability part 1: every day a bright-minded and qualified person who's been a wheelchair since birth seeks office work and gets told that they should either be sucking on a straw in a nursing home or hauling nets on a fishing trawler. No middle-ground. Ask any family with a limited-ability husband/wife/son/daughter about this. It's like a Winning Streak wheel where instead of money you get either an ignorant bigot or a compassionate human being.

Let's prefer the latter, @Geuze@Deeec@[Deleted User]

Disability example: office work is often appropriate for someone with a good mind and upper body mobility: phones and computers. Plastering gable walls and teaching PE in secondary school is usually not very easy for someone who drinks through a straw. Still, they very often end up being badgered to do Intreo courses that their bodies aren't physically capable of and if they fall out of that system the whole family suffer.

Carers part 1: by definitiion a kid who's been mopping their parents' vomit away at the age of 12 can't get a carer's payment. That happens at 18. Does it magically kick in on their 18th birthday? Of course not. It depends on where they are and whose desk the form lands on. There seems to be some kind of assumption that there's someone looking over these kids but very often there is not. Very easy sneer at the poor though. Especially when they develop addictions. My dad was actually a heroin addict, but I never had to clean up his puke. Do let me know about the puke situation @Geuze@Deeec@[Deleted User]?

Carers part 2: you're separated and your mother and father are injured in a crash. No carers' allowance for you: your ex has a good job and it's assessed on joint income. You haven't spoken since the whole thing fell apart, and that's a private matter but let's just say it wasn't your fault. You have no support, financially or otherwise. They have a new partner and your kids are being neglected.

No carers' allowance for you because you're still married in law. You looked into the HSE home support packages but you still don't get any help. You are now a carer for two your parents and your two children. There is not a scrap of food in the house, and you've rang and emailed every single person you can think of.

All of the above are legally prohibited from accessing any carer or disability payment.

But someone on Boards.ie says "bollocks, I pulled pints in the GAA club for £1 an hour in 1993 and something something work something something and then I did something and it was hard and so everyone on the dole is a buncha lazy cunce so if I can do it so can they".

That's just fantasy, and it's deliberately spread to corrode communities and suck in money.

Please don't fall for it.

If you want to argue that the system is unfit for purpose then fire away: it dates from Famine times. A million dead and a million emigrated, we were all taught.

But if you want to spread a load of hate and lies against everyone in receipt of a state payment then that says far more about yourself than it does about the system, @Geuze @Deeec @[Deleted User]

Deeec

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118613828#Comment_118613828

Have you been drinking tonight by any chance - that's pure nonsense.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118613846#Comment_118613846

Let me know what elements you dispute, so.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118613828#Comment_118613828

WOW. Just WOW. I hope that you’re feeling better for getting that off your chest.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118598001#Comment_118598001

Unpaid trials are not and never have been normal.

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118597546#Comment_118597546

You're so right. And An Post johnnies aren't 5 to 10 times the price of Lidl johnnies, because An Post don't sell johnnies 🙄

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118598030#Comment_118598030

Ah but if they settle for something less than their 'dream job' they might not get their 'foreva home'.

Danno

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118599045#Comment_118599045

Wrong on so many levels...

If you're on jobseekers while being a family carer - you're on the wrong payment,

If you're on jobseekers while being disabled you're on the wrong payment,

If you're on jobseekers owing to tragedy or abuse then Jobseekers Benefit takes into consideration your contributions and payments are made swiftly. Geography and "countless more" are nonsensical arguments.

Top Tip: Know the difference between Jobseekers Allowance and Jobseekers Benefit - they're a very different beast.

But I suspect your post was to muddy that water.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118597602#Comment_118597602

Now now. That's not fair. Not all of them stay in bed doing nothing all day.

Some of them get up in the afternoon to have a w@nk while watching Rachel Riley on Countdown

Hotblack Desiato

I'm missing out on sooo much while being forced to earn a living. Snot fair!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118619181#Comment_118619181

Just on this point - "If you're on jobseekers while being disabled you're on the wrong payment."

While technically you are correct - they are on the wrong payment, but that can be down to decisions made in DSP. I've come across many cases of people who are genuinely unfit for work - and backed up by their Doctors - who should be on Disability Allowance but their claims are refused.

Disability Allowance is notoriously difficult to claim and be successfully awarded. (I've heard from colleagues in DSP that its not uncommon for DA claims to be automatically refused the first time, then awarded only on appeal. All of which takes a long time. Over a year for an appeal is not unusual).

These people then have no option but to claim JSA if they don't have stamps for JSB. It's not right, but it is what it is.