Law re Grey's and magpie trapping

17hmr1

Just wondering can anyone clear up the situation re trapping the above birds in cage and Larsen traps.Ive been having a bit of an argument with a fella who is convinced I must look for a licence from npws to trap and dispatch the bird's.I on the other hand cannot find anything that says I must have any such thing.

I see best practice for keeping call bird healthy and well fed but that's what I'm doing anyway.So people who's right and who's wrong or is it actually a grey area.

Lone hunter 22wmr

larsen_use_guidelines_2008lr.pdf

This is from the u.k maybe this might help

In Ireland you dont need a license as far as I know

Cass

Section 34 of the 1976 Wildlife act as amended by section 42 of the 2000 Wildlife amendment act (also SI 620 of 2003) deals with traps, snares, legalities, etc.

Should find everything you need in there.

17hmr1

Now I may be wrong but I see no specific area in the above linked statue that says licence is needed to trap birds that are on the derogation list or maybe I'm not reading it right.

I see in the declaration from npws that grey or hooded crow and magpie can be shot or trapped from 1st February till 30th April which I didn't know.I assumed that the above birds could be trapped or shot all year.Maybe at the end of April they bring out a new declaration.

Re traps and sizes there are no details of what is suitable only vaguely stating room to move and exercise freely

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118485450#Comment_118485450

All wild birds are protected by law. There’s no birds that can be freely shot all year. The derogation is a temporary suspension of that protection.

But traps are especially confusing. One section of the act bans taking if wild birds with a trap. But another SI lists permitted traps (referenced by Cass above).

No licence is needed. But to dispose of the birds, you rely on the derog.

Eddie B

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118516966#Comment_118516966

I think the temporary suspension, allows the trapping of those species . Once it's done humanely of course.

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118517116#Comment_118517116

As I mentioned the use of certain traps is already permitted by SI. The derogation expanded the to other trains, use of live decoys, and killing.