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Female jogger killed in Tullamore (MOD NOTE IN OP)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    This is absolutely shocking, hard to comprehend. May she RIP. Society cannot accept this. Our judiciary cannot accept this.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Mod warning

    Nearly every post since the last mod warning has been deleted or edited.

    This is an active case so discussion on the case is not legally permitted.

    For those who are using this thread to further your anti man, anti govt, anti EU, anti immigrant agenda you seriously need to take a long hard look at yourselves.

    RIP thread only from here on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,172 ✭✭✭screamer


    A shocking, sickening act. A young lady just out for a run. Horrendous. Her poor family, I can’t even imagine their grief.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,022 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Just awful and words honestly escape me. RIP 🙏

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,663 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I wonder was this man out to kill or was this an opportunistic crime. Either one is horrifying, but to think he was there to kill is sickening.

    Cannot imagine the grief of the woman’s family. Out to exercise in broad daylight, and life taken. Gone! Her poor family.



  • Posts: 257 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RIP to the young woman. Reminds me very much of myself, going for a jog after school in my early 20s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    I actually feel sick after reading this news this morning I mean what was the point, devastated and worried for my daughters and female friends who all jog.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭touts


    Very sad to hear the coverage of this. So young to die of any reason yet alone needless violence. Can't imagine how they will try to explain this to the 30 6/7 year olds who just lost one of the most important people in their lives (their teacher).



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    I was thinking about this earlier. How on Earth do you explain to them that the person they’ve had teaching them for the last few months won’t be around anymore?

    They will be soul-destroyed.

    So many aspects of this story which are so upsetting for so many people.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    I can't stop thinking about this all day since I first learned of it. She was alive yesterday morning her whole life ahead of her and then just gone. Every parents worst nightmare and it makes my head and heart hurt to think of what and how the school are going to have to tell those kids. RIP to her and may the perpetrator be thrown in a dark place never to see the light of day again as long as he lives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    I feel the same way. I think what needs to happen that women will need to make sure they are not alone when jogging...sad this is the case but it feels like it is the only solution



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭archfi


    An utterly awful act of violence.

    I hope her family, friends, acquaintances and her very young schoolclass and all the schoolkids and colleagues at Durrow NS manage to get the strength needed at this time.

    God rest her. RIP.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 969 ✭✭✭AdrianG08



    Whatever way it transpired, it's just heartbreaking stuff for her loved ones, the poor girl.

    Post edited by Pawwed Rig on


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,511 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    There are no words.

    She graduated from Mary Immaculate College only 3 months ago.

    This is her with her sister. May she rest in peace.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,663 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Beautiful looking young woman. Utterly numbing.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭bertiebomber


    I never understood the behaviour s in new York city when i moved there in the 80's . As an irish girl i saw people walk over other people on the street ignore altercations and generally in my eyes behave badly by not helping their fellow humans. That was 40 years ago now i hear a girl murdered for stepping into help someone and i fully understand the behaviour. New york was dangerous then and ireland is dangerous now. That poor child someones daughter educated and improving her community. God help her poor mother & father RIP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,111 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    Genuinely cannot wrap my head around this. An utterly senseless crime, inconceivable what her family are going through. 😓



  • Registered Users Posts: 793 ✭✭✭French Toast


    How will her family ever come to terms with this loss. Completely mindless, incomprehensible.

    May he die screaming.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There are no words to describe this appalling act, it has numbed every one, I just can't imagine how her poor family are coping with it, an unbelievable thing to happen, really heartbreaking.



  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭noel50


    In my mind the punishment for this crime will not meet in my view justice 12/20 years is not enough i think the guilty must give to society how about a kidney make someone on deaths door a new lease on life I am just so angry now R I P .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley



    Spare a thought for the 2 women that came upon the attack and disturbed him


    That will haunt them forever. She was dead unfortunately by then



  • Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭bertiebomber


    they alerted the emergency services and stayed with her while she was dying and amongst all that they identified the perp, well done they will have PTSD for while its not something you can forget easily.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    I just wish to god one of us could have saved this girl, no other murder has affected me like this one. I'm just devastated for her poor family and friends.

    Post edited by Pawwed Rig on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭von Smallhausen


    Words fail me on this one.

    A beautiful young soul gone within the blink of an eye.

    Those 2 ladies will be needing counselling for a long long time now and I commend them for their bravery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,211 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    well said Banie, i was trying to find some words but this conveys it as well as any, may she rest in peace, my thoughts are with her family.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,700 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I normally brush off news of murders sort of as part of life, ya here about them on the news every so often. This one has hit me hard for some reason though.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's unbearable and so unfair to think how that poor woman's life ended. Such a senseless horrific end to a life. It's terribly terribly sad.

    If there is an afterlife I hope she's there and at peace surrounded by those who loved her and passed before her. 😢



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    An absolutely heartbreaking situation for Ashling's family. May she rest in peace.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Terrible and shocking. Poor girl with her whole life in front of her, she likely never harmed anyone in her life and then ends up in the path of this monster. It reminds me of the Jastine Valdez case, another totally pointless killing at the hands of a deranged madman. What was done since then to prevent such random attack and killing?? Nothing. Not sure what can be done as there is no sense to either situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Thanks for the clip, she was a fine musician for sure, great ease in her playing. What a senseless waste of a life full of further promise and hope. RIP Aisling.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,663 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Your attitude comes from nowhere but love, care and concern. I can clearly see it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,424 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Poor Girl, Poor family, and then you have people who found her and people who had see her body at the end of her life.

    Some people will live with the scars of this for their whole lives.

    No words really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    I'm utterly appalled. This is a dark day for Ireland. This has shaken me to my core. RIP Aisling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    They reported this story on on Sky News


    The reason this is shocking in particular is the time of day and the all round circumstances.


    Most murders are committed at home and by someone known to the victim


    A random attack, in a small town, at that time of the day is very uncommon and deeply disturbing.

    I can't begin to imagine how grief stricken her family are.

    Her dad was a well know musician, and Tullamore is a small town by any standard so it's going to be something the entire community is going to have deal with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭AyeGer


    Shocking crime. What was his motivation? Just to kill or did the women who came across the attack disturb him from something else. I don’t know if they will ever find out. I feel for women who feel unsafe just going out and about in ordinary life. Is there a solution, sadly I don’t see one that will make a significant difference.

    Post edited by Pawwed Rig on


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    There is literally nothing that can be done to stop a random attack/killing unless someone designs a minority report style future crime predictor.

    This is a horrific case, and i'm sure extremely traumatic for her family, friends and also for the community that she was from.

    But can we please stop with the amateur dramatics? Women can't do this now, women can't do that now. It's absolute nonsense and i'm sure this young lady would not want over-hyped, tabloid style fear to be her legacy. This is by far the safest period ever to be a woman in the Western World. These attacks/murders are extremely, extremely rare, which is why they generate such publicity. There is no boogeyman around every corner waiting for women. Live your life. Don't be afraid to go jogging, wear headphones, go out etc. just be aware of your surroundings and be careful. The same advice also goes for men.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,896 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Sick to my stomach, RIP to the poor girl

    Hope the b****d that done it rots in hell



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    I’m starting to feel that way myself. A lot of the time when something like this happens I just feel so helpless.

    My partner changed her walking/running routine about a year and a bit ago, after she had an uncomfortable encounter (she wasn’t harmed, thankfully) when out when it was a little darker. Naturally she hears something like this and believes that the random attack, as rare as they are, could happen to anyone in broad daylight.

    She was very rattled by this last night. And you feel sh*t because there is nothing you can do to stop this happening even if she takes all of the right approaches.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,663 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Yes. This death is very unlike other murders. I cannot recall similar. Time of day, victim and perpetrator not known to each other.

    So desperately sad for any parents/family to lose a child, but like this does not bear thinking about.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    There are some vigils being held for her tomorrow, at 4pm. The time she was attacked.

    It's a very difficult situation right now, so I'm not going to comment on the crime itsself. I'd gone to bed early yesterday, after being up early. So only heard about the crime this morning.

    Also heard about two teens being stabbed in Blanchardstown. My sympathies go out to their loved ones too. Just hoping they make a swift recovery.

    It's absolutely horrible to think she'd (unknowingly) celebrated her last Christmas. Just horrible. Sincerest condolences to her family, friends, and loved ones.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    This is grossly unfair. Women are quite rightly frightened by this. They get the warnings to go for their run during the day, into well lit areas, make sure they aren’t secluded etc. Ashling literally did all of this and she was still attacked and killed.

    A lot of people in this thread are simply lost for words. A bit of empathy rather than just dismissing everything wouldn’t go amiss. Surely you can understand that instead of dismissing people as being ‘dramatic’?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,532 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Absolutely horrific, RIP Ashling.

    Thoughts are with her family, friends and the 2 ladies who stayed with her. One life ended needlessly and so many other affected long-term.





  • RTE News at one just said known to Gardai with a history of violence. Ffs, infuriating and senseless.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    It isn't. I can understand women being upset, angry that it happened, horrified at the details of it. But frightened?

    Should men be frightened because an innocent man was shot dead in Ballyfermot over the weekend? Or because Anthony Campbell, a young lad in work was murdered? Or Shane Geoghan? All innocent men going about their business and murdered. Should I hide under my bed?

    I've never seen any warnings for women about when or where to jog/run. And I am empathic, women shouldn't be scared. They should live their lives. Do what they enjoy. Baseless fear helps absolutely no one.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    There was a conviction last year, for the murder of a Limerick woman. Guy followed her home, when she was out grocery shopping. Then murdered her in her home. The crime took place in 2017.

    This time, last year, there was a cleaner stabbed on her way home from work. She died a few weeks after the incident.

    That second case was mentioned on twitter, in light of what happened yesterday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,896 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    No matter what mental state the lawyers dig out he should never walk the streets again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    Minister for Justice/Gardai telling us that perpetrator will face full force of the law, no stone unturned etc.


    Should that not be the case in all murders?



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    And as time passes they likely will, but right now they are grieving and being dismissive isn’t helping, it just fuels everything.

    Many women would go for a run on their own in broad daylight and wouldn’t think much of it. It’s very easy for you to say they should just get on with it. It is very unfair especially given how raw this is. Listen to the women around you rather than dismissing them. If this isn’t phasing them then great for them, and I say that sincerely, but it doesn’t mean everyone else should be the same at this very moment.

    And I can’t speak about the Anthony Campbell murder but if you think people in Limerick weren’t phased about the Shane Geoghegan murder then you weren’t paying attention.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,738 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    If you are going to start minimising the risk level that lone women face by comparing it to crimes against men, then you might want to actually start comparing crimes that are similar.



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