Travellers on TV or radio ads

glenfieldman

In relation to the thread of “mixed race couples on tv ads”

That got me thinking, why do media company’s not use traveller or Roma family’s to promote products or company’s like they do with mixed race couples or LGBT couples

when had a positive promotion ad campaign with the travellers ever been shown

Blackie Connors.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1310222565642850307/WqBbQ6c8.jpg

glenfieldman

I did specify advertisements

When has a major company used travellers in a positive advertisement ?

StupidLikeAFox

The thing about the mixed race couples is that the companies are already on the right side of history. The same goes for the explosion in pride month rebrands for the gay community - this is low hanging fruit for these companies, its not really going to damage their brand. If they had promoted mixed race or gay couples in the 70s when it wasn't fashionable they should be applauded, but doing it now is just jumping on a bandwagon

Fair play to any company trying to promote inclusively for travellers, there would be a real risk of a backlash but it would also have a huge impact for a seriously marginalised community. Most won't bother until others do the hard work and it becomes fashionable though

How can you tell?

ChickenDish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058226972/travellers-on-tv-or-radio-ads

What exactly would you have a traveller advertise?!

Maybe I'm a cnut but if I seen a traveller promoting a product, I'd dodge it like the plague.

Notmything

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447331#Comment_118447331

Ads are already misleading without really taking the p*ss.

Allinall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058226972/travellers-on-tv-or-radio-ads

How do you know they don't already?

BrianD3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448729#Comment_118448729

There would be a niche for them advertising various tools - axes, hammers, mauls, slashers and so on.

Juran

Ford could get them for Transit van adverts

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447336#Comment_118447336

It’s not about companies being on the right of history, it’s the equivalent of Father Tee and his “NOT A RACIST” sign.

padd b1975

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447342#Comment_118447342

If a few of them moved in next door, you'd be able to tell soon enough.

buried

flol

Thargor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058226972/travellers-on-tv-or-radio-ads

Have you got a link to the mixed race couples one please? Definitely something Ive noticed in ads lately, its so pandering and annoying once you start noticing it (the cynical way advertisers use them that is, not the idea itself obviously)

VillageIdiot71

AllForIt

Because they're here already. No need to subliminally get us used to what's coming.

Salam Alaikum

Vizzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118448880#Comment_118448880

Thats what Donedeal is for

Homer

i know a traveller whO got a job in a sports shop. On his first day the manager told him to watch how he deals with a customer.

manager-can i help you sir?

customer-'I'm looking for a tennis racket'

manager-'is it for lawn or sand tennis?

customer-‘lawn'

and the sale is made. he tells the traveller to deal with the

next customer.

traveller-'can i help ya boss?'

customer-i’m looking for a baseball bat'

traveller -'is it for a wedding or a funeral?'

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447342#Comment_118447342

Are you from here? You can just tell.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118451570#Comment_118451570

Oh yeah? Got the cranial ratio differences handy?

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118452042#Comment_118452042

No, it's probably the same way a load of well healed D4 heads can point me out as a lower middle class bit of rough at a party. Anyway whatever it is travelers have a certain look that anyone with any bit of savvy can point out a mile away.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118452712#Comment_118452712

Oh yeah? I must ask around which side of my head looks like a traveller and which doesn't.

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118452757#Comment_118452757

Look sorry to offend if you come from a traveler background but it is what it is.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118452784#Comment_118452784

Not offended, just looking for an explanation. If you'd rather withdraw your nonsensical statements that's an option.

Esel

Didn't take long for the mouth- breathers to find this thread...

Edit: didn't not dont

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453212#Comment_118453212

You really have to appreciate the irony of using such a poorly constructed sentence to insult the intelligence of others.

Fr Tod Umptious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118451550#Comment_118451550

What's "sand tennis' ?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453150#Comment_118453150

#

A lot of them have a feral look... some have more of an inbred (mongs, as they term each other) look.... then there's the way they talk, dress, and walk; plus who's alongside them (even easier to tell if there's a few of them together) is another clue..

Then there are about 10-20% that might be difficult to spot... they're rarely seen too far from home on their own either; out walking and the like, because a lot of them do have enemies...

I'd say, at a conservative guess, your average Joe or Josephine Soap would clock them over 60% of the time (not bad given they're only 1% of population)

#all this is just one biased prejudiced poster's opinion... I haven't conducted any studies neither..

Esel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453236#Comment_118453236

An autocorrect of 'didnt' 'to 'dont', but carry on.

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118449234#Comment_118449234

I always thought the preference was Hiace Vans 🤔

Potential-Monke

Ho new HiAces over here since 2019 I believe. Transits are the job these days.

Deeec

I just can't see this working - there are a portion of travellers who try their best not to pay for anything they use or consume. They could give a whole new meaning to the Aldi swap and save ads for example - they could change it to swipe and save.

whisky_galore

Won't happen, travellers are not a trendy demographic that advertisers want front and centre.

Mad_maxx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453745#Comment_118453745

Travellers are an extremely trendy "demographic" for the media and WOKE set ,have been for a long time

XsApollo

How do you highlight that it’s a traveller in the Advert?

I think it’s pretty obvious that being a different colour doesn’t need to be highlighted, how do the advertisers highlight that it’s a traveller.

have a disclaimer? This ad contains travellers?

or show them getting out of a caravan or?

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453831#Comment_118453831

Not for selling products and services though.

BringingSexyBack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058226972/travellers-on-tv-or-radio-ads

The UK did wonders for their culture and wedding dress makers with "My Big Fat Gypsie wedding" . Not sure many of the hotels in the traveler heartlands are too keen on holding the receptions though.

The majority of the Irish Traveler (not all) of them have cultivated a well earned reputation for .................stealing people's property - so no surprise company's wouldn't . Plenty of them are legitimate trades men, but, they wisely aren't too fond of publicity or attracting the tax man (we can all sympathize with that )

And before the naysayers, most of whom have little to no experience of them, start chomping- unless you are from the Longford, Tuam, Ballinasloe, Athlone, Mullingar Ennis areas (areas where they have a long history of "fun and games" ) , really don't bother, you will lose. There is just far too many court reports to confirm their behaviour

Mixed race couples and LGBT couples aren't known as a group for anti social behaviour and crime

I'd imagine you actually already knew that

Anyway, Joe Joyce and co are good for brining out DVDs on their boxing etc ............

StupidLikeAFox

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453270#Comment_118453270

You can also spot gay people by the limp wrist and pink tshirts and mexicans by their big sombreros

Smart Bug

There’s a real opportunity for the Gov to use Irish travellers to advertise dog licences.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453270#Comment_118453270

Yeah? And would they be the kind of people likely to answer casting calls and go to auditions?

I can think of the top of my head of a few travellers who were on RTE (and major primetime shows at that, not crime-related :P) that I know personally and I'll bet no-one knew. I always laugh when I hear an inspirational story about a traveller getting a degree or Masters, I know one with a PhD and a couple of others who are lecturers. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you wouldn't be able to spot them.

You're talking about scum, not travellers. I've seen more inbred, malnourished lads when I'd to wait for a bus in Dublin than I'd see total number of travellers on a given week.

This "other"ing is playing into the victim mentality. Once you say they're different they can cling to that and scream discrimination. Travellers are white Irish people, much like myself and 80-whatever% of the population. Many of them seek to separate themselves from mainstream society while expecting all and more of the benefits such society brings. It's playing into their hands to pretend they're any different to us by default.

standardg60

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118456670#Comment_118456670

I would imagine the fact that they've gone out of their way to have themselves legally defined as a separate ethnicity and culture different to that of mainstream society that it would suit neither party, advertisers using them to appeal to mainstream, or they themselves being seen to be part of that mainstream, is why it wouldn't work.

Ten of Swords

@bertiebomber do not post in this thread again

Lillyfae

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118457607#Comment_118457607

👏

Snails pace

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118456447#Comment_118456447

Like this? Except it's with Big Joe Joyce and a bucket of petrol to dip his fists in

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118455468#Comment_118455468

gay people by the limp wrist

WD - more 'woke points' for you.. completely acceptable apparently to use a negative stereotype in this scenario (where a poster makes a 'lived experience' comment [that you don't like] about the likelihood of an Irish person being able to clock a tinker [they're white too, like us majority irish, and unlike Mexicans, who are more brown in colour] )

I reckon it would be harder to detect a gay person than a traveller.. a lot of gay people are not a caricature like you described, whereas travellers, are.. Unless I'm wrong..

'Hypothetical Pepsi Challenge' time (never gonna happen) - me and you head to a particular town (that none of us are from, and at least 500yds from a halting site, or a gay bar, and not on a 'Parade' (of any kind) or a horse fair day.. 2 hours sitting in a car (hypothetically of course, watching the world go by) and you pick out the gays, and I'll go with the travellers, and then we'll see who has the better tally.. No way of verifying it of course, so just for the craic like....

Afterwards, when I deem that I've clocked a few 'cousin marriers' and they in a group of some kind at a corner; for shíts and giggles, me and you can walk hand in hand by them, slowly, and you can ask them - if they engage us in conversation - about how many I got right.. 😁 I'd be disappointed if I got less than 70% correct.. As far as your 'tally' is concerned; well, we'll have no real way of finding out.. Pity, I reckon I'd hammer you in that 'Guess Who' comp.. Will have to remain a 'hypothetical' though........

As long as we don't encounter any 'limp-wristed sombrero wearing gay Mexicans' we should fare okay!

Juran

I totally agree this family need somewhere to live like everyone else. I presume they were offered council accomadation (house), but want to stay in their caravans (again, I am presuming, I dont know any details).

But is this legal descision a dangerous path ?? This is council land, paid for by the tax payer and Clare property tax. If the land is ear marked for a housing estate, community centre, sports fields, etc .. the people of Clare can kiss that idea goodbye.

RTE news : Supreme Court upholds Traveller family eviction appeal

http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2022/0131/1276913-supreme-court-ihec/

Potential-Monke

Don't think it's the right thread for it, but shocking outcome and sets a very dangerous precedent.