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Charged with offense of public intoxication

  • 08-01-2022 2:02am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    to such an extent as would give rise to a reasonable apprehension that you might endanger yourself or any other person in your vicinity.

    For which I was...guilty, without a doubt, matter of fact he could have charged with me other stuff.

    I assume it would help my case if I arranged to meet the arresting Garda to apologise for acting the eejit? Do you think if I plead guilty and pay a fine could get off with an adult caution?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,986 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Honestly, no. It's in the system now, and he/she has to stand over their decision to arrest you. Apolise by all means it will help your case, and reduce your fine. Good character blah blah



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭mikethecop


    of course you can be offered an adult caution, if you haven't already been arrested for something in the past that is .

    thats sort of what its for



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,986 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,986 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Sorry, I didn't read your whole post.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭Ish66


    You must have been totally Gee Eyed. Worth a shot I suppose.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Are you a member of the GAA?

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 ✭✭✭Dramatik


    Depends on your previous history with them, but usually it's pay anywhere from 200 to 500 into the poor box, this usually depends of whether you, resisted arrest, were aggressive etc.

    They will probably ask you to write a letter of appologies as well. So maybe if you do that before the judge asks you to, it might look a little better for your defense, you could also bring a copy of it with you to court incase the judge asks to see it or it didn't make it's way to the parties involved.



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You should be offered an adult caution if you haven't had any previous arrests/ charges.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭Bob Harris




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Braden Damaged Pope


    you can ask for adult caution - if you've never got one before - it would be up to the guard and their superiors to see if you can avail of one



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,855 ✭✭✭pappyodaniel




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,076 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Singular 'They' has be around since the 14th century.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭Sy Kick


    .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Liberty_Bear


    The Citizens Information Site has a useful list and its worth noting the following

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/justice/law_enforcement/adult_cautioning_scheme.html

    In deciding whether or not to issue a caution, the Gardaí must consider:

    • Your alleged behaviour
    • The surrounding circumstances
    • Evidence of your guilt
    • Your understanding of what a caution is and its significance
    • The public interest
    • The views of the victim

    If you are going to



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭Fallout2022


    You are entitled to an adult caution if you have no previous convictions and you are admitting the offence. You should chase that one up with the local Superintendent as it is important to avoid a formal conviction in court. A conviction could potentially cause diffictulty in travel and employment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,986 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I used 'them' as I don't know if the OP is male or female.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Don't go bothering the Garda looking for a meeting to apologize anyway, they are up to their eyes in work and you'd only be bothering him further. Leave a message with him and seek the adult caution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,167 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    If the OP has been charged it's too late for an Adult Caution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    I wouldn't claim for the following to be good legal advice, or any sort of legal advice for that matter, but I read on Facebook that if you go into the court and remind the judge that you are the master and he is the servant and that you don't recognise any authority that he purports to have, that you as a free being will be allowed to leave without a mark on your record.


    It must be true



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,288 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Think about Trollope.

    You need to start reading the classics. Have you read Dickens? Austen?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,796 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I think I would rather go to prison than be forced to read Persuasion again.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,288 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    But first ask the judge to produce their oath of office as per the constitution. Otherwise they are just wasting everyone's time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Put on your nicest suit, get a haircut, shave your stubble, use some foundation to cover your face and neck tattoos and tell the judge you're really sorry and that you've learned your lesson



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 ✭✭✭Dramatik


    Almost makes me miss my days as a youth in court, mostly depressing and boring but the odd time you'd hear an entertaining case. I remember one which was a drunk driver who ran from Gardaí

    Gardaí standing on front of judge: " ...the suspect paused for a second, proceeded to call us "fat Gardaí scum", whilst motioning a sexual gesture and then continued to resist arrest. The suspect then attempted to scale a nearby garden wall and failed, which is where he sustained the injury to his eye"

    Suspect interjects: He's after giving me a belt!

    It was well deserved in all fairness.

    Post edited by Dramatik on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    he suspect paused for a second, proceeded to call us fat Gardaí scum

    Was the guard saying that the suspect called them "fat Gardai scum" or was the Guard saying that he called "us fat Gardai" , "scum".

    Post edited by Donald Trump on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I'd ask for a tribunal or failing that start a hunger strike.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭nj27


    Newb question, presumably a lot of people are intoxicated in public on any given Saturday or Friday, how do you end up getting charged for it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    200 hours community service for being a lightweight I would imagine



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭Faolchu


    probably by being abolutly wankered drunk, and either pissing or puking on the Garda's shoes


    OP should just go to court and cry foul of the "hard life", "absent/Alcoholic/Drug addict parents", enroll in a FAS course and no doubt the judge will just let you off with a fine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,796 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,796 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Also was the Garda wearing his hat at the time of arrest and could he put the charges to you in Irish?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Burt Renaults


    Aside from the odd minor motoring offence in my youth, I'm a keen follower of the law and have therefore had zero experience with An Garda Síochána, but I would imagine that a sincerely apologetic letter to the arresting officer would (depending on your record) go down very well. Also, try crying in court.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Nashua, New Hampshire USA, 14 years ago I was celebrating my 30th birthday


    Absolutely locked. Streets pretty empty except for my 2 mates.

    Zipper open on the town bridge as I piss over the edge into the river.


    I could hear both of my mates prompt me to put it away. I look around and it was if I had a gun in my hand, not my flute.. 3 patrol cars and 4 officers surround me

    What are you doing Sir?


    Naaathin I said


    You're urinating?


    No I'm not I said


    Your penis is out he said. He then said your a drunk to which I felt the need to correct him. Excuse you, I may be drunk but I'm not "a drunk"


    Where are you from Sir?


    To which I realised this was my get out of jail card.. quite literally


    I went completely lucky charms on him begora begora shamrocks and shenanigans.

    Oh. You're Irish he said.


    OK Sir, you need to go to sleep it off.


    Oh, and put your penis back in your trousers Sir.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,344 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Lucky. I know a guy who was caught pissing in Boston. Cops arrested him, lawyer told him to get on the next flight out of the country. Can never go back now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    He was a bit unlucky I'd think. I was caught a few years later doing 50mph in a 30 zone.. it was just outside Nashua in Hudson


    In my defence it was one of those odd ones where it'd a great road but that section had low limit.


    I remember being g pulled over and the difference in how the US cops approach the car, one hand on the hip.


    Asked me for licence and reg, to which I had neither.. found out subsequently the registration was in the glove box, but I didn't have a clue. He took my Irish passport went back to his cruiser, after 5 mins, came back and said, look its a nice car i know you want to stretch its legs but be safe. Enjoy your holiday


    Wrote me a ticket, just a caution, not a fine.

    Again, probably lucky being Irish, and not an illegal resident


    Years later i mentioned it on FB and the Hudson police PM'd me about it to be nosey.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,464 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Basically like others said above, a danger to yourself or others. So while everyone is drunk, you'd only get arrested for falling around the place (you could fall and bust yourself, danger to yourself) or picking fights/hopping off people (danger to others), walking out into the road in front of traffic or playing with traffic (yeah, it still happens). It's a last resort, the Garda no more wants to arrest you for being drunk, but it has to happen sometimes. Not sure if they sorted out the grey area around it, but it was still up in the air when I left. Can take upwards of an hour to deal with, pain in the hole tbh. But they do play a big part of your arrest history, unavoidable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    OP, ya better start watching Love/Hate. Pay particular attention to the final episode where Fran encounters the sweeping brush after being locked up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187



    I never went on a J1 but of my friends and acquaintances who did, the majority had some form of run in with the law, all alcohol related. In at least one case, he can never enter the US again (or would have to jump through so many hoops that makes it not worth his while.) One fella (not the bloke that can never enter the US again) was refused drink on a flight after too much imbibing, kicked up a fuss, when the plane landed at JFK marshals were waiting to question/arrest him on landing. He has definitely been back to the US since, reason I can vouch for the latter is I was with him (the air marshals incident was pre 9/11, some time in mid 90s (fortunately for him) the other time was post-911.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    I was in court for this when I was 18/19. Got away with giving the poor box 500 quid, no criminal record.

    First thing you should do is go and apologise to the Garda that arrested you, but I guess your solicitor will have told you this already?

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭ Hadassah Tight Thinker


    Oh that was a fun read. I love how the judge throws all the shite back at him by saying he can’t take bail if the signature can’t be verified 😭😭😭



  • Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭ Hadassah Tight Thinker


    I’m screaming 😂


    oh.. and put your penis back in your trousers sir….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    What did you do OP!

    The people need to know so they can judge



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    Drank too much and acted the eejit. Frankly, I'd rather take me chances in front of an actual judge than be judged by 'the people'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭The DayDream


    Usually the first one of these they just send you the public order fine and you have a certain amount of time to pay or it goes up a bit, or you can try fight it in court.

    If you just pay the fine it doesn't count as a proper conviction as in you don't have record - technically. They could bring it up if you were in court again though to paint a picture of you as a baddie.

    You can apologize all you want they're still gonna send the fine or summons, just hope it's the former you can pay it and forget about it. If all you were gonna get was a caution they'd have told you already.

    Probably should consider quitting the drink. When this happens it usually is not actually the first or last time booze gets you into bother. Just doesn't suit all of us. If it happens again and the incident warrants a court date you could have whatever silly behavior went on printed in the local paper.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,288 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Deny all charges and insist you were doing Dry January.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,222 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    And this little piggy went wee wee wee wee wee wee all the way back home to Ireland.



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