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When's calving starting 2022

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭dodo mommy


    I had a cow calf on Wednesday, calf was stuck around the chest for half an hour before I got to him. He sucked 2.5L from bottle first suck but hasn't made any attempt to suck since, I'm having to stomach tube him. Any advice on how to get him sucking. I have given him pain killer and victims injection + steroids.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,048 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    We had a heifer like that last year.

    Put a calf jacket on him, he should be fine in a day or too. I got the Dairygold one (breathable fabric) with a red trim, they are easier to remove later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭High bike


    Try a bit of golden syrup on the teat they love the taste of it.Put it on ur finger first and see if he'll suck,worked for me last year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,424 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    He's probably sore from the calving. Patience will get him going. I had one like that, this year. Keep at it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,429 ✭✭✭tanko


    If you take the calf off her and just leave her alone will she not just dry up by herself.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,666 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Put her indoors on hay and water - keep her away from grass. She will dry up after a week or so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    I’d still put a tube of dry cow in her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭RD10


    Section on a heifer yesterday, Huge bull calf. Got him standing for few minutes today,

    Hes good and sore on the legs, will take them a while to straighten out but thankfully both are alive to tell the tale.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,429 ✭✭✭tanko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,244 ✭✭✭squinn2912


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    Went down to turn on a light and this girl had her work done, calved a heifer out through the calving gate into another heifer. Bit if coaxing and I had mammy and baby reunited and a suck took place. Brilliant!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Nice fiston heifer out of zag



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭dodo mommy


    Just replying to funkey_monkey, he started sucking himself Friday evening, he's still a bit dopy but once he's sucking he will be fine👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,424 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Oh, the old sucking while still lying down trick. Done it here a few times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭RD10


    He is ya. Bought her as an in calf heifer few months back.

    I'll have to check but think bull is knell - I've never had any problems using him before myself, this lad was a big ol lad. Vet had to keep making more incisions as we couldn't get him pulled out. She has a fair scar but funnily enough she's absolutely flying it, the calf is the one that's needing looking after.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭Seanhorse91


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    Some ordeal this morning!

    Loyal heifer, incalf to Ivor, went calving this morning in the calving paddock, picked the one spot where there wasn’t sheep wire, must have rolled over and slipped down a bank onto her back. Got her pulled down handy, sitting up straight but wouldn’t get up. Went for the jack, but she was gone swollen at the back and calf wasn’t budging so rang the vet.

    Just as the vet pulled in she got up so got her into the calving gate and cue the photo!

    Thankfully all went well, fine bull calf, swollen head from all the forcing so thank god we didn’t keep pulling. Got an injection to help the swelling.

    Never a dull moment😅 last one til the next batch in June



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭James2022


    ^Thats one way to end the current calving season! You'd need a break.


    All normal here except one heifer who wouldn't open up. Gave her a few hours and eventually just went for it with the jack since the calf was small. Calf alive and well which was a shock after a 7 hour labour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,424 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Have a 4th calver cow here. She got caught up in the cubicles and ended up sitting in a squatting position for a while. When she got up, there was 2 young bulls mad after her as if she was bulling. I was 50/50 if she was incalf or not.

    Checked her there today and she is bagging up and starting to soften.

    You'd wonder at times. What would cause this?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭alan10


    Is that Dovea bull "Ewdenvale Ivor" LM2014?

    Meant to be quote the 2022 catalogue "Extremely Easy Calving"

    Had few him off cows an no bother - was going to put on heifers this year; bit reluctant now. Wonder if falling down the bank was the trouble and might calf fine otherwise?

    great outcome either way... take the break!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭Seanhorse91


    Ya that’s him. Don’t have any fear of him on heifers, very easy calved. The only reason she didn’t calf him was that she was swollen behind and so was the calf’s head. Have used him on any heifers I’ve to bull the last 2 years and all have calved with relative ease. They come light boned and turn shapey after. Ideal for heifers in my opinion. A lot easier than Eby. Probably to easy for cows, you’d have better bulls out there for them, the likes of Gamin in Bova, or Maddison/ Newton in Dovea



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,244 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Good easy calving bull. If I didn’t have my own bulls I’d have no bother using him on cows too. Impressed enough at his calves.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,429 ✭✭✭tanko


    Yeah, I’ve put Ivor on cows and i’d have no problem doing it again, he breeds stylish, shapey cattle and brings a bit of extra length that some Lim bulls dont. You don’t need to use hard calved bulls to breed good quality cattle. Last September i sold some Highfield Odran bullocks out of heifers to a neighbour, he sold them today as two year olds, made between €1800-1850. I wouldn’t mind having some Odran straws now, he was a serious bull and very easy calved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭alan10


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    Dovea, LM KJB heifer calf. 11 days over, big calf. Calved outside 5am, was up sucking 6am.

    Great calving outside...when things go OK.

    Cow is a twin herself. Lm, KZH.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    Lovely outfit Alan, when outside calving works which it does most of the time it is always the best I find. Cows are more comfortable and relaxed calving outside. They seem to calf quicker too, plus the calf seems to get up quicker as the get better grip in a field than the straw bedded shed. Plus you can bet a LM calf to be up quick sucking. Really noticed it this year as I put a few Sim on cows and the Sim calves are a lot more dopey / sleepy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,244 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Very nice. Ah yea outside beats the spots off inside as long as the job is right but then it is some pain dragging a calving jack out to a field and trying to sort all out if the skut can’t get up etc. I spent 3 weeks lifting a lad in the summer time and I was too embarrassed to show yous a photo. Mother went dry and I bought an oul Frisian thing to rear him when he eventually got up. Great calf now but I’m glad he’s a bull. Anyhow on the Lim vs Sim bit I’m not sure I notice much difference but then again our sim calves have a good bit of lim in them! I hope the ch lads next autumn are as good!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭alan10


    thanks Yep agree - certainly calved fast, checked 3am on calving camera (I have set up so it covers paddock outside as well as all inside - great job) all quiet, 5am she started 5:05 all over! Had to check was I dreaming 😂. Used a lot KJB over years and liked but found bit lively to keep as replacements. Only this cow this year. Don't notice huge diff in Sim/LM vigor in general



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Great when things go well. I think you were having calves scouring earlier? did everything clear up after? ( or was that someone else ??)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭James2022


    I had an usual scour that spread through about 6 calves. I don't like to interfere when calves are on grass with their mother unless its a real problem so after 4-5 days it all cleared up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭alan10


    Yes - had scour (Rota) also. Lost one, all else recovered. Got them all out and so far everything good. Will be vaccinating next year and calving month later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Ch4637 heifer

    Quick as a flash.

    Day 290



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,429 ✭✭✭tanko


    Do you not find KJB to have a very long gestation, put him on some cows here a few years ago and was nearly ten months waiting on most of them, he can breed a lovely heifer, easy calved but bulls were plain enough off him if i remember right. You should give Brooklands Marco a try if using Dovea.



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