Had a fr heifer calf born this morning in cubicle shed. Cow due 15th January. I served a few in early April as I was penalised for not supplying enough milk last January. A sexed mo salah calf. All good. Best of luck for calving 2022
thanks Yep agree - certainly calved fast, checked 3am on calving camera (I have set up so it covers paddock outside as well as all inside - great job) all quiet, 5am she started 5:05 all over! Had to check was I dreaming 😂. Used a lot KJB over years and liked but found bit lively to keep as replacements. Only this cow this year. Don't notice huge diff in Sim/LM vigor in general
Very nice. Ah yea outside beats the spots off inside as long as the job is right but then it is some pain dragging a calving jack out to a field and trying to sort all out if the skut can’t get up etc. I spent 3 weeks lifting a lad in the summer time and I was too embarrassed to show yous a photo. Mother went dry and I bought an oul Frisian thing to rear him when he eventually got up. Great calf now but I’m glad he’s a bull. Anyhow on the Lim vs Sim bit I’m not sure I notice much difference but then again our sim calves have a good bit of lim in them! I hope the ch lads next autumn are as good!
Lovely outfit Alan, when outside calving works which it does most of the time it is always the best I find. Cows are more comfortable and relaxed calving outside. They seem to calf quicker too, plus the calf seems to get up quicker as the get better grip in a field than the straw bedded shed. Plus you can bet a LM calf to be up quick sucking. Really noticed it this year as I put a few Sim on cows and the Sim calves are a lot more dopey / sleepy.
Dovea, LM KJB heifer calf. 11 days over, big calf. Calved outside 5am, was up sucking 6am.
Great calving outside...when things go OK.
Cow is a twin herself. Lm, KZH.
Yeah, I’ve put Ivor on cows and i’d have no problem doing it again, he breeds stylish, shapey cattle and brings a bit of extra length that some Lim bulls dont. You don’t need to use hard calved bulls to breed good quality cattle. Last September i sold some Highfield Odran bullocks out of heifers to a neighbour, he sold them today as two year olds, made between €1800-1850. I wouldn’t mind having some Odran straws now, he was a serious bull and very easy calved.
Good easy calving bull. If I didn’t have my own bulls I’d have no bother using him on cows too. Impressed enough at his calves.
Ya that’s him. Don’t have any fear of him on heifers, very easy calved. The only reason she didn’t calf him was that she was swollen behind and so was the calf’s head. Have used him on any heifers I’ve to bull the last 2 years and all have calved with relative ease. They come light boned and turn shapey after. Ideal for heifers in my opinion. A lot easier than Eby. Probably to easy for cows, you’d have better bulls out there for them, the likes of Gamin in Bova, or Maddison/ Newton in Dovea
Is that Dovea bull "Ewdenvale Ivor" LM2014?
Meant to be quote the 2022 catalogue "Extremely Easy Calving"
Had few him off cows an no bother - was going to put on heifers this year; bit reluctant now. Wonder if falling down the bank was the trouble and might calf fine otherwise?
great outcome either way... take the break!
Have a 4th calver cow here. She got caught up in the cubicles and ended up sitting in a squatting position for a while. When she got up, there was 2 young bulls mad after her as if she was bulling. I was 50/50 if she was incalf or not.
Checked her there today and she is bagging up and starting to soften.
You'd wonder at times. What would cause this?
^Thats one way to end the current calving season! You'd need a break.
All normal here except one heifer who wouldn't open up. Gave her a few hours and eventually just went for it with the jack since the calf was small. Calf alive and well which was a shock after a 7 hour labour.
Some ordeal this morning!
Loyal heifer, incalf to Ivor, went calving this morning in the calving paddock, picked the one spot where there wasn’t sheep wire, must have rolled over and slipped down a bank onto her back. Got her pulled down handy, sitting up straight but wouldn’t get up. Went for the jack, but she was gone swollen at the back and calf wasn’t budging so rang the vet.
Just as the vet pulled in she got up so got her into the calving gate and cue the photo!
Thankfully all went well, fine bull calf, swollen head from all the forcing so thank god we didn’t keep pulling. Got an injection to help the swelling.
Never a dull moment😅 last one til the next batch in June
He is ya. Bought her as an in calf heifer few months back.
I'll have to check but think bull is knell - I've never had any problems using him before myself, this lad was a big ol lad. Vet had to keep making more incisions as we couldn't get him pulled out. She has a fair scar but funnily enough she's absolutely flying it, the calf is the one that's needing looking after.
Oh, the old sucking while still lying down trick. Done it here a few times.
Just replying to funkey_monkey, he started sucking himself Friday evening, he's still a bit dopy but once he's sucking he will be fine👍
Nice fiston heifer out of zag
Went down to turn on a light and this girl had her work done, calved a heifer out through the calving gate into another heifer. Bit if coaxing and I had mammy and baby reunited and a suck took place. Brilliant!
Is the daddy a Lim bull?
Section on a heifer yesterday, Huge bull calf. Got him standing for few minutes today,
Hes good and sore on the legs, will take them a while to straighten out but thankfully both are alive to tell the tale.
I’d still put a tube of dry cow in her.
Put her indoors on hay and water - keep her away from grass. She will dry up after a week or so.
If you take the calf off her and just leave her alone will she not just dry up by herself.
He's probably sore from the calving. Patience will get him going. I had one like that, this year. Keep at it.
Try a bit of golden syrup on the teat they love the taste of it.Put it on ur finger first and see if he'll suck,worked for me last year
We had a heifer like that last year.
Put a calf jacket on him, he should be fine in a day or too. I got the Dairygold one (breathable fabric) with a red trim, they are easier to remove later.
I had a cow calf on Wednesday, calf was stuck around the chest for half an hour before I got to him. He sucked 2.5L from bottle first suck but hasn't made any attempt to suck since, I'm having to stomach tube him. Any advice on how to get him sucking. I have given him pain killer and victims injection + steroids.
She got 4 tubes of dry cow and she’ll get 10ml of spotinar in July.
I’d be fairly confident of the cull price holding and a few months of grass will finish her.
Prices for cull cows were never better , well not since 2011. Otherwise you will be watching her for mastitis in Summer.
Last one calved this morning so that’s it. She was a straggler one month behind the last one so interest was low on her!!!
update on the calf that wouldn’t suck the cow. Never did suck the cow in the end. Tried everything with him and no good. It’s like a pet lamb now. Have him and the mother gone to the field with the bullocks as not carrying the cow and she not keeping a calf. It’s some nuisance having to feed him every day though.
Nothing better than when a black LMx cow has a red calf. Her 3rd LM Knell bull calf but this is her first red one.
I know fellas well capable of trying that, only for the fact it's a heifer calf
