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How to verify sale of property and being served notice of termination as a tenant?

  • 22-12-2021 9:33am
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    Registered Users Posts: 821 ✭✭✭ Sugar_Rush


    So, tenant is occupying a residence.

    Landlord serves notice of termination claiming intention to sell.

    There's some kind of land registry where confirmation of sale can be authenticated thereafter?

    I understand the time the landlord has is 9 months so would have to wait that out.

    Evolution



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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭ recode the site


    Notice depends on how long one has been a tenant at said property.

    Land registry, where a fee will enable current info of ownership

    Property Price Register would enable you to see a recent sale that has taken place.



  • Registered Users Posts: 631 ✭✭✭ houseyhouse


    LL must intend to sell the property within 9 months. A sale can take months to go through so if it hasn’t been fully completed within the 9 months that doesn’t mean they’re not genuinely trying to sell. Certainly I wouldn’t expect all sales to be in the land registry in that amount time. I believe mine was finally registered about 12 months after we completed the sale. You could try the property register but that can also take months after the sale to appear.

    Is the property listed for sale? Don’t know what the RTB would do if they’re in the process of selling but not completed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭ Xterminator


    Intention to sell does not equal sale complete. your landlord is entitled to sell his property and your not the sheriff. . it certainly is not your role to enforce the law.

    its all a bit minority report here where your assuming the big bad landlord is going to break the law and finding him guilty in your eyes already. Are you just salty he has legally ended the tenancy? Do you actually have any objective evidence?

    In the future if you did suspect he rented out the property rather than sell, you could drop a letter in the letterbox to the tenant letting them know what you(or your 'friend' paid in rent - that would be a practical measure you could take.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,270 ✭✭✭ Topgear on Dave


    Landlording generally considered as bad form these days in public debate.

    No surprise they would try to get out and less LLs generally regarded as a good thing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭ MacDanger


    If the property appears on myhome or daft in the next couple of months, then it's reasonable to assume that the LL is intending to sell it. Other than the PPR, I'm not sure how you would actually verify that it has sold (although the a sign outside the property going from "For Sale" to "Sale Agreed" to "Sold" and then removed would be enough for me).

    If it doesn't go up for sale, then you may want to consider opening a case with the RTB for wrongful termination of your lease. If proven, you would probably be offered back the property to lease and the LL may be liable for compensation of some sort



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  • Registered Users Posts: 47 CuriosityKilledtheCat


    As far as I know the property is listed on the Property Price Register once the stamp duty has been paid. I think SD must be paid within 30 days of completion of sale.



  • Registered Users Posts: 47 CuriosityKilledtheCat


    Not having a pop at OP but this is why landlords are leaving the market - myself included. I have posted in another thread where I am in a very protracted sale of my house to the tenants in-situ.

    Friend of mine legitimately gave notice to her tenants - after correctly serving a notice of rent review which still left their rent below market level. Property went on the market and was sold within a few weeks. Tenant still took a case to RTB claiming that the notice/review etc were not legitimate.

    The tenant lost the case - in my opinion, they never had a leg to stand on and should have been told that from the beginning!! It still caused a few months of stress to my friend who is very glad to be out of the market now.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What happens if a sale doesn’t go through at the last minute? Would you intend taking a case against them OP for something that was out of their control?

    There should legally be an option to serve notice “cos we don’t want to do this anymore” and then decide what they want to do (and when) with the property they own. It’s nobody else’s business as far as I’m concerned.



  • Registered Users Posts: 821 ✭✭✭ Sugar_Rush


    My real beef is being hustled to be honest.

    It's a matter of principle.

    My LL is also a real estate broker and my experience with real estate brokers is they're all crooked as a barrel of snakes.

    i.e. they'd tell you anything, in fact the entire industry should be renamed, "real estate hustle", not brokerage.

    So we'll see I guess, but yes if I have in actual fact been hustled I would absolutely be prepared to confront the issue legally.

    Evolution



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