Peter McVerry

TheAnalyst_ · 13-12-2021 9:32am #1

Front page of a newspaper this morning and I see this.

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He has the main front page ad for a national newspaper which is mostly his own head. Its bizarre first of all that the most expensive ad in a national newspaper is taken up by a charity. More so when its one mans name and face all over. Not very priestly to be seeking attention and adulation either.

Any please give generously so that they can run more expensive ads in future.

I see sheep · 13-12-2021 9:36am

All the **** going on in the world and you complain about a charity 😂

Simon Harris is next to him ffs

Mad_maxx · 13-12-2021 10:03am

McVerry is a demagogue .

Wouldn't give him a bean , Brother Kevin of the capuchin centre ,now there is a great humanitarian, doesn't need to go on radio or TV to call for landlords and banks to be criminalised either ,McVerry and his ilk are the reason interest rates here are so high ,he told Ray D'Arcy a few years ago that bank repossession should be illegal

A demagogue of the highest order but a Saint of the media

Lillyfae · 13-12-2021 10:35am

And gazump ordinary decent citizens to further inflate the supplementary rental scheme. Just wondering, does anyone know if the properties owned by the Trust ultimately belong to the Catholic Church?

13-12-2021 10:40am

As a general rule, I never trust anyone who is the head of a charitable organisation or trust - and yes, that includes Father McVerry.

Charity for them is just the day job; what they really crave is the national adulation and wealth that come with leading these organisations.

As I've said before, charity can be used as a Trojan horse for inappropriate activity because nobody in their right mind will criticise charitable work, and so those at the top can get away with murder, figuratively.

corner of hells · 13-12-2021 11:06am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118313619#Comment_118313619

All their properties are owned by the PMVT , it operates as an approved housing body or association.

They also run hostels on behalf of the DRHE , some owned by DCC others by PMVT.

I believe all homeless service employees should be burned at the stake and their families exiled to Siberia.

TefalBrain · 13-12-2021 11:07am

Some people just love to moan.

TheAnalyst_ · 13-12-2021 11:10am

If I ran my own private company named, fronted and heavily using my own image you'd think there's an ego out of control. A private business is one thing but an actual charity that uses other peoples money (not forgetting the state's) and the ego behind it is a priest? Bizarre.

corner of hells · 13-12-2021 11:23am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118313796#Comment_118313796

He doesn't run it anymore , it's a trust.

erlichbachman · 13-12-2021 11:25am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118313455#Comment_118313455

So you wont be donating then?

TheWonderLlama · 13-12-2021 11:26am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118313778#Comment_118313778

Tell us how you really feel?

Joking apart, the original name of the Peter McVerry Trust was the Arrupe society, named after a Spanish Jesuit priest. So I would imagine that the beneficiary of the trust ultimately is the Catholic church. they just put Peter up as the front man (or he put himself forward, which is more likely)

Homeless services will be another Magdelene laundry scandal in the years to come. Church making money off vulnerable people with thd collusion of the state and we will all pay for it.

enricoh · 13-12-2021 11:41am

It comes across to me that he has a lot of clout in the media and the government shovel money out to him to shut him up. I'd say he despises FF and fg but once they pony up it's all smiles.

He had the same ad in the Sunday times yesterday

corner of hells · 13-12-2021 11:42am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118313915#Comment_118313915

I work in homeless services ,similar to PMVT , its a Trust that owns the properties ran as a housing association, to be housed in one of these properties you must be registered with one the local authorities and or homeless.

There's quiet a few housing associations providing accommodation, Circle, Sophia etc.

Potential residents are often nominated by local authorities with in some cases referral by homeless services.

padd b1975 · 15-12-2021 11:24am

Fr. Pete wasn't exactly well liked when he was....eh...."counselling" prisoners back in the early nineties.

Wouldn't trust the lad as far as I could throw him.

Richard Hillman · 15-12-2021 11:27am

It's all bit Chairman Mao-ish, to be fair

Kermit.de.frog · 15-12-2021 11:31am

Some years back, in fact the first I really heard of him, he was on tv condoning theft on the basis..."if someone's hungry..." then it's ok.

If someone broke in to his house and terrorised him I wonder would he be so aloof, understanding and open minded?

thefallingman · 15-12-2021 11:35am

walk down to merchants quay and donate after 5pm i'm sure it'll be safe, the homeless and drug addicts are a lovely bunch of lads

chicorytip · 15-12-2021 11:51am

He is a Clongowes educated Jesuit from a wealthy background so is untypical of that particular breed. They are mostly trained to teach. Establishing a shelter for homeless boys in his own flat in Ballymun is not a Jesuitical type of initiative. That was the beginning of what is now the Peter Mc Verry Trust. Fair dues to the fellah. He seems entirely genuine and without ego. Brother Kevin of the Capuchin order and Alice Leahy of Trust could be described in similar terms. They're all just living saints really.

TheAnalyst_ · 15-12-2021 12:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324736#Comment_118324736

Establishing a shelter for homeless boys in his own flat in Ballymun

That's a little strange.

chicorytip · 15-12-2021 12:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324889#Comment_118324889

It may seem a little strange, I agree, but had there been any inappropriate behaviour by Mc Verry toward these homeless young people it would surely have come to light by now. I think he just saw there was a problem and felt he had to do something about it. Undoubtedly, he was hoping to gain publicity - not for self-promotion - but to highlight the issue of homelessness in Dublin. He was certainly successful in that regard.

c.p.w.g.w · 15-12-2021 12:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324610#Comment_118324610

If there is more to this, a PM would be appreciated

padd b1975 · 15-12-2021 12:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118325009#Comment_118325009

Probably best if I don't go any further to be honest.

cruizer101 · 15-12-2021 1:00pm

I don't agree with some of what he says e.g. illegal to repossess but it is a bit stretch to imply he is as bad as other charity heads who have been caught up in scandal siphoning off funds.

He is a genuine person who has by his actions shown he is not just there for the attention, like him or not he is a good person who is trying to help those in need.

corner of hells · 15-12-2021 1:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324660#Comment_118324660

Having worked in MQI in its Primary Care Centre , in its needle exchanges , on its drop in floor and as an outreach worker, I can assure you , you will be fine.

Pussyhands · 15-12-2021 1:12pm

The thing about charities is when you spend the money, it's not your own money so you don't really care if the money is wasted or thrown away.

I saw adverts from mcVerry looking for places for sale. They're fighting with first time buyers to buy properties and will throw silly money to get them. Just like DCC saying they don't care what the price they pay is, if it means a family is housed the cost doesn't matter.

Lillyfae · 15-12-2021 1:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118325166#Comment_118325166

If it means a family is housed by them you mean. The people that they're fighting with (and beating!!) are trying to house themselves, and the people they're fighting "for" are completely disincentivized to do anything for themselves.

Mad_maxx · 16-12-2021 10:49am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324736#Comment_118324736

He clearly has a significant ego ,brother Kevin is never on TV or radio, McVerry is never shy when a TV camera is close

For Forks Sake · 16-12-2021 7:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118329999#Comment_118329999

Never heard a sob story that he didnt fall for hook, line and sinker either

vriesmays · 19-12-2021 12:48pm

If it wasn't for McVerry there would't be people in Dublin on long-term welfare living 15 minutes from Grafton Street.

Galwayguy35 · 19-12-2021 1:00pm

I don't like McVerry he loves the limelight, alsways complains but never offers any solutions of his own.

Meanwhile on Christmas Day Brother Kevin and other volunteers wil be working behind the scenes to make sure people have a dinner to eat.

Now thats a man that deserved to be awarded the Freedom of the City, its just a pity they gave it to McVerry first.

corner of hells · 19-12-2021 5:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118346319#Comment_118346319

No solutions ?

PMVT offers a multitude of supports and services including :

STA accommodation, family hub accommodation, housing through in its capacity as a housing association.

Also provides under 18 residential services and homeless prevention services.

Drug services: stabilisation, detox both community and residential , recovery , aftercare combined with housing.

Volunteers are great but there's a world of difference between a volunteer who makes himself available on Christmas day and a full time or relief staff whose available every other day of the year.

If you want to volunteer, you can do my shift on Christmas day.

19-12-2021 7:07pm

I give to a homeless charity/NGO and SVP at Christmas but I am very careful about which ones I give to.

Peter McVerry comes across as being motivated by guilt about his privileged background very similar to some on the daft left.

Galwayguy35 · 19-12-2021 7:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118347759#Comment_118347759

I see you are one of McVerrys fan boys, he's nothing but a figurehead at this stage.

Brother Kevin and the other friars work all year round helping people and do it with a fraction of the money McVerry gets.

corner of hells · 19-12-2021 8:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118348431#Comment_118348431

Bro Kevin provides a completely different type of support, food and a primary care service.

Galwayguy35 · 19-12-2021 8:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118348601#Comment_118348601

It might be a different kind of support as you say but the point still stands that he has to do it with a fraction of the money McVerry gets.

corner of hells · 19-12-2021 9:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118348830#Comment_118348830

You must be a Bro Kevin fan boy.

19-12-2021 9:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118348830#Comment_118348830

Maybe you dont mean it but there is always a slight edge to your posts I would not donate to the trust but I have nothing again Peter Mcverry himself.

Galwayguy35 · 19-12-2021 9:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118348837#Comment_118348837

If hightlighting the fact that a man can look after those less fortunate with little or no financial help makes me a fan boy then yes I am.

Meanwhile you stay praising the guy who gets millions.

touts · 19-12-2021 9:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058222631/peter-mcverry

They need the money for expensive ads because most of the donations get spent on staff salaries rather than on helping people. Take a look at their published accounts. Over 70% of all money raised goes on wages.

Avoid any charity what is named after the person running it. That's major warning flag right there. If you want to give to charity this Christmas (and please do as there is some shocking need out there and they aren't getting the help they need from the media savvy charities). Someone mentioned Brother Kevin of the capuchin centre earlier. I've donated to them in the past and will again. There is no PR bullshit about them but they make a real difference on the ground.

corner of hells · 19-12-2021 9:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118348907#Comment_118348907

I'm pointing out the completely different levels of support provided , which you seem completely oblivious to.

You don't seem aware that he stepped down a number of years ago.

I've no particular interest in the PMVT other than that I work in a similar organisation.

19-12-2021 9:33pm

University and colleges that teach social care around the country are now nearly all advising there students not to do their placements with Peter McVerry it is considered one of the worst run homeless charities in the country for both the users of the service and the staff and volunteers of it.

Sheep breeder · 19-12-2021 9:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118348961#Comment_118348961

with 70% going to fund the organisation and father Pat on the biggest money of all the staff.

corner of hells · 19-12-2021 9:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118349035#Comment_118349035

Father Pat ?

Mad_maxx · 19-12-2021 10:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118348907#Comment_118348907

Brother Kevin keeps out of politics too unlike the other guy

19-12-2021 10:14pm

Fr Peter McVerry I’d very Marxist, he would commandeer all private landlord property if he could, actually no, he would commandeer the properties and then get the landlords to fund any shortfalls of expenses to maintain them. “You have the extra property - we’ll rake and you’ll continue to pay for its upkeep”. He has virtually said as much.

corner of hells · 19-12-2021 10:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118349219#Comment_118349219

He's retired.

Burt Renaults · 19-12-2021 10:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118349219#Comment_118349219

Pretty sure I'd become a full-blown Marxist if I subjected myself to what he witnesses on a daily basis. He's a decent Christian - something that's far too rare in the Catholic Church.

Wholly unsurprising to find a thread here on Arsehole Central, bitching about someone who's more of a decent human being than the rest of us put together.