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  • Registered Users Posts: 73,795 ✭✭✭✭ Atlantic Dawn

    I was more pissed off with mobile phone networks providing customers locations to the government during the lockdowns from home.

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    "Kinzen's CEO is a former RTE journalist". Makes perfect sense.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭ HalloweenJack

    So the Government is monitoring Covid disinformation and the HRs claim its a breach of freedom of speech?

    There's no denying them their right to express their opinions but people should be held responsible for it, especially if they are elected representatives. That's what seems to be their problem with the whole thing.

  • Registered Users Posts: 32,270 ✭✭✭✭ Gatling

    If only we were living in Russia all these people spreading misinformation about covid and public health would be removed from the internet and packed off somewhere quiet cold .

    Langley , Virginia

  • Registered Users Posts: 26,383 ✭✭✭✭ Dempo1

    If only the same could be said for the 100"s if not 1000"s of hacking enterprises based in Russia who appear to operate both freely and indeed with shameless encouragement of the Russian state, unless of course a company dares critise Putin or the Russian state.

    Fascinating BBC report during the week on how these Hacking enterprises operate out of Russia with absolute no fear from the State, no Siberian Gulag for these enterprising individuals I'm afraid.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.

  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Manach

    I think this is a wonderful idea and I, for one, welcome our new Tech Overlords. /s

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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,229 ✭✭✭✭ Donald Trump

    Old news. Sure the so-called "Steele dossier" was merely a collation of my posts on here

  • Registered Users Posts: 34,721 ✭✭✭✭ Annasopra

    Yeah and the Russian Government pays them to promote Trump, Orban, Brexit and anything else to destabilise Western Governments and the EU.

    Apparently a "normal" woman is a busty blonde sexy page 3 model who wears make-up, short skirts and red lipsticks and has pouty lips.  Who knew. 👀😏


  • Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭ foxsake

    you make it sound so reasonable.

    but this is the state spying on citizens and ultimately (one example) we had a senator (Senator Gerard Craughwell) flagged by this crowd and reported to the social media overlords - then his speech flagged - for a factual comments he made in parliament .

    That is very worrying - flagging awkward questions or dissent as disinformation is poor form but flagging speech from our parliament is plain wrong and very worrying about the state of free speech in Ireland.

    if you don't see the problem , then that's on you.

  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 2,179 ✭✭✭ Raichu

    Thing people forget about free speech, it simply means you can’t be prosecuted for speaking out against the government (try call Putin names like you would Leo or Martin see how that ends)

    none of what happened here breaches free speech.

  • It's people making comments on public forums and is very much so relevant to public health atm. Care to point to what Craughwell said? If somebody says something factually incorrect in the Dail, that doesn't make it by default true.

    Once again, no limits on freedom of speech exist as a result of this. It's just you being annoyed that bs is getting called out.

  • Registered Users Posts: 11,844 ✭✭✭✭ Richard Hillman

    I have scanned through some of the information requested data. A lot of it is not about missinformation. It's more about people who disagree with restrictions. Basically being critical of government, whether it be in Ireland or abroad

  • Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭ foxsake

    regardless of what is said , if the state (and civil service) are paying an agency to flag speech made in parliament that is wrong every day of the year.

    Let the government wheel out at TD to refute things -

    as for misinformation - Kinzen , the HSE nor the state have the monopoly on decided who is right or wrong.

    It's quite worrying that people would think that's ok

    Many people in ireland have over the years shed light on things that were unpopular esp with the powers that be. Now we have a precedent that the government can use taxpayers money to flag inconvenient truths as "mis informartion" essentially lies.

    He was saying he had no choice but to take AZ vaccine and was worried as he had a history of heart issues and if you recall at the time the old folk were afraid of the AZ causing clots as it was reported as being a factor to consider.

    All a reasonable speech yet upset some - some with money and access to blacken his name.

    gript did an good in-depth analysis of it all - Senator is in there somewhere.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,076 ✭✭✭✭ VinLieger

    "Spying"...... do you understand what the word means? They were monitoring open public discussions specifically disinformation and propaganda on a public health issue. You dont want people to see what your opinion on something is then don't post it on a public forum or social media platform.

    TBH your paranoia is unsurprising as it seems your a gript reader

  • Registered Users Posts: 25,582 ✭✭✭✭ GreeBo

    Your understanding of the tech industry in Ireland is bad and you should feel bad.

  • Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭ foxsake

    says a lot about you tbh - pretty lame and predictable

    I didn't see other media do that type of analysis on the topic but you keep reading your preferred media and never venture beyond those confines.

  • Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭ foxsake

    the senator made his comment in the chamber . One of our houses of parliament.

    It wasn't josey and his talking dog ranting on facebook, there is a marked difference.

    If you can't see that , then you are blind.

    A gript reader? why yes I do read it , is that some kind of slur? you probably need to try harder cos if that is the best you can do , it's pretty moronic of a dig

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,076 ✭✭✭✭ VinLieger

    Gript is an alt-right dog whistling rag of a site which you well know but im guessing you feel better about yourself and your opinions when you read it so again im unsurprised by your paranoia.

    Can you please point out where anyone was "spying" as you claimed?

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭ whippet

    What does it say about me? ‘Preferred media’ what does that mean?

    Is Gript your ‘preferred media’ ? If so - why ? Is it that the echo chamber has a better sound when reading it. Gript’s target market isn’t me anyway … maybe you are in their target market .. and if so .. it’s your choice and freedom to read whatever you want … but don’t expect others to have the same opinion as yourself.

  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭ melekalikimaka

    please be careful of what yo take from that media source... you seem somewhat reasonable at the moment

  • Registered Users Posts: 559 ✭✭✭ Mad Benny

    This is a quote from Danny in the article the OP posted. Is Danny Healy-Rae the best leader Kerry has to offer?

    “I never thought the Government would resort to seeing what people are saying,” he said

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭ $hifty

    The Healy -Raes giving out about the mis-spending of public funds.......there's a headline I never thought I'd see.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭ foxsake

    No echo chamber for me , I read them all tbh from the highbrow to the tabloids

    i like any media that does analysis and asks questions of the government and other agencies. Gript does that. the others in Ireland sadly rarely do anymore.

    to dismiss a publication because you don't like John McGuirk et a stupid on your part and a tiresome argument to hear. I see this a lot any report that is raised is dismiss not cos it's untrue but cos people (like you) don't like the source which is narrowminded imo

    if you can refute anything in the article , please do

    You might not like their politics and nobody is demanding you do - but unless the articles are lies then its a fair source.

    Anyway I'm not here to defend gript - i'm here to express dismay at the state agencies and their behaviour here. The thing did happen and it was very undemocratic to flag dissent . Some people think that is ok , i don't - esp given speech in our parliament was flagged

    they (not you but whippet etc..) have no rebuttal so choose to attack the source - an ad hominem I guess. says a lot about them and their narrow view.