Naas General Hospital Primetime Investigates Dr Aamir Zuberi

What a faking rotten prick

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/rte-prime-time-viewers-left-25531233

I was lucky,

I was operated on in Naas general before 2012 (when he arrived) and also after 2017 (when he departed)

my question is

Why the fck did Naas General not write to all patients under his care between those dates?

Rot in hell you prick!

Gatling

Jesus Christ

I wonder did the staff that saw the suspect behaviour, did nothing, then decided to discuss it a year later leave the country too?

edit . a google search on him gets, "Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe. Learn more". I wonder what links he applied to be removed before this current scandal

https://www.rte.ie/news/investigations-unit/2021/1122/1262519-sexual-abuse-complaints-naas-general-hospital/

If you have been affected by any of the issues raised in this article, you can contact Dignity4Patients, whose helpline will be open from 07:00 to 23:30 on Tuesday at 086 165 4111. Its helpline is normally open from 09:30 to 17:00 between Monday and Thursday. You can also contact the Rape Crisis Network on 1800 778 888.

It won’t end with Naas either

Dr Aamir Zuberi also worked for several years at another leading Irish hospital prior to taking up employment in Naas.

https://www.rte.ie/news/investigations-unit/2021/1122/1262519-sexual-abuse-complaints-naas-general-hospital/

Yeah, the question (apart from perpetrator who is a psychopath) is why leave the questioning. I know I’m my heart and my soul I would have questioned earlier… maybe not quite early enough. I tend to be the sort who gets myself very unliked at times as I do not stand for any kind of abuse, be it directly intended or consequential to a condition such as mental illness or alcoholism etc, be it to others or myself. It’s the only way to respect both yourself and others at same time.

Maybe a younger nurse or cater etc just hadn’t got time or experience to come to this type of thinking and collective think-sense has ab awful lot to do with with any individual does not have the the courage to put the hand up.

Hotblack Desiato

the courage to put the hand up

Somewhat unfortunate phraseology there

Oh good god. ☹

WrenBoy

Has the added effect of giving people more reason to mistrust of the medical community at a time like this.

Sick fucker, I hope to God he wasn't unsupervised around minors under anaesthesia.

osarusan

I know there is a tendency to want to 'send them back where they came from' if possible, and this guy is already back where he came from, but money spent extraditing, trying and convicting, and incarcerating this guy would be money well spent in my opinion.

That said, perhaps passing on the info to the Pakistani police might result in a rather more swift and decisive punishment.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118214487#Comment_118214487

I wouldn't bank on it ,the Pakistan legal system is worse than a lot of places , corrupted and favours those who are well off ,

In these cases I'd be happy to see the army ranger wing tasked with returning him here , but in saying that if he was brought back by legal means he could declare himself an asylum seeker and were stuck with him

Hangdogroad

I'd be surprised if Ireland even has an extradition treaty with Pakistan.

Donald Trump

How did the guards know to contact the victim? I mean were there witnesses, video, or did the perpetrator admit to it somehow?

Beasty

Suggestions something was "witnessed" which does beg some serious questions over why it's only now coming to light. If anyone has tried to cover anything up here there needs to be a major investigation. It also begs the question of what else may be going on elsewhere. There is clearly a trust between patients and medical practitioners, but that requires full investigation into alleged wrongdoings

PicardWithHair

Holy F*ck !

Witnesses ?? wtf was going on ??

Hotblack Desiato

I wouldn't bank on it ,the Pakistan legal system is worse than a lot of places , corrupted and favours those who are well off ,

Have a little look into how their international airline pilots get "licensed", scary stuff. Basically it's "show me the money".

BanditLuke

Whilst the story sickens me I'm equally as sickend by the fact nurses witnessed this and did nothing. It leaves serious questions unanswered as in are these people still "caring" for patients to this day?

Hotblack Desiato

Plenty of questions all right but will there ever be answers?

BrianD3

I meant to watch this but missed it. As bad as it sounds, there may have been worse abuse going on in other HSE facilities. We're not talking about ancient history here either. What will happen to the staff who knew about this and did nothing about it?

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/sexual-abuse-of-18-residents-occurred-over-13-years-at-hse-run-centre-in-donegal-1199676.html

"At least 18 intellectually disabled residents of a Health Service Executive-run centre in Co Donegal were subjected “to sustained sexual abuse” during a 13-year period with the full knowledge of staff and management, an unpublished investigation has found.

The report documented more than 108 incidents of “devastating” abuse perpetrated on mainly non-verbal adults by another resident, given the pseudonym “Brandon” in the report"

tdf7187

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118213792#Comment_118213792

Evidently you never heard of Jimmy Savile or Dr Shine.

joseywhales

It really makes me question the culture in Irish hospitals. I want to move back to Ireland with my wife in a few years, she works in surgery, if this happened here, in the us, there would be no hesitation in reporting on a senior but somehow in Ireland things still get swept under the carpet. I don't want her working in such an environment to satisfy my desire to come home. At best it doesn't exactly sound collaborative. Is it an Irish thing? We still just defer to authority?

joseywhales

Working class heroes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118213792#Comment_118213792

Oh would you ever just f............

madeiracake

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil seems to be the hse motto. Anybody who covered this up should be struck off. An unconscious patient is at their most vulnerable and if you are not prepared to help them then you shouldn't be working in a hospital. The system here is a shambles lessons are never learned and way too many blind eyes are turned. Heads should roll. How was this guy allowed to continue working in other hospitals? It is horrific.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118221601#Comment_118221601

No

funkyzeit100

The entire system is a shambling wreck at this point.

We're operating on a system of exchange in ireland. We train our own doctors and nurses at huge expense, and then a large cohort of them are plucked off to other countries. Then, to fill the void, we have to import doctors and nurses, quite literally people who will work for less, often from places of questionable certification.

You get what you deserve in such a globalised system of farce. That is, a small nation like us loses.

conorhal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220538#Comment_118220538

I don't think people understand how not worth your career it is to 'challenge the behaviour' of a doctor or consultant if you're a nurse.

Here's a prime example of that from my mum's best friend who was a nurse. The Pakistani consultant she was working with wrote a prescription for a LETHAL dosage of medication on the charts of a child in his care. As a nurse with many years’ experience and someone that took no guff from doctors, she questioned the dosage (the foreign nurses on the ward BTW had this utterly subservient and deferential attitude to doctors, so they wanted to comply with the order and 'not bother him'), so she wrang him. He refused to change the prescription and balled her out about questioning him and speaking to him in an 'argumentative manner'. She then rang the on-call consultant who flipped when he heard what dosage had been prescribed and told her that under no circumstances should a dose like that be administered to a child.

What was the net outcome of this near fatal incompetence on the part of the consultant?

A general letter was sent to the staff on the ward about how to 'appropriately and respectfully' communicate with consultants in a professional manner that was absolutely directed at her. She took early retirement that year.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118223548#Comment_118223548

🙄

The vast majority of Non Irish Healthcare workers here are very professional, very caring, decent, good at their jobs and well qualified to do the work.

The Quintessence Model

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118230796#Comment_118230796

Quite telling on a story about a doctor sexual abusing patients, that's the post that gets a response from you.

Jequ0n

This is a very strange story. So the only evidence available is witness testimony? And the victims were informed that they had been sexually assaulted even though this could not be proven (yet?). This is exactly the angle that causes nothing but panic.

Typical reactions on thread we well…making sure very patient at the hospital a potential witness, calling the accused a psychopath etc etc.

What about calming down and waiting for an official statement to be issued, now that the hospital and gardai need to respond?

85603

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118214938#Comment_118214938

I think we're low on rangers with the requisite complexion needed to fade into the Pakistan background.

And as Ive garnered from other threads on here there is never ever any context where changing ones skin tone to appear as another race is ever acceptable. Ever.

So the Pakistan security forces would see those big Irish heads a mile off, unfortunately.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118231351#Comment_118231351

I would hazard a guess that the reason this was so public, was because extensive research and investigation was carried out, the person in question fled the country and subsequent jobs elsewhere after being pursued, and did not make himself available for questioning, and that there's a significant risk to the general public if this POS ever sets foot in front of a patient again.

Spare a thought for the people this evening, who were operated on between 2012 and 2017 in Naas General Hospital, wondering if they were molested by this pr1ck instead of telling everyone to "calm down".

What's the weather like in your ivory tower this evening?

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233231#Comment_118233231

Sure, because said person will return to Ireland knowing that they were being investigated.

There is zero benefit in making every patient wonder whether they might have been assaulted, especially if the ones who allegedly were had had no idea until they were told by someone. And that’s the funny thing; until it’s been proven it should not be presented as a fact.

No thank you, I don’t need to spare a thought on anyone. Feel free to be outraged on my behalf if it makes you feel better though.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233284#Comment_118233284

By your post Something tells me you’d defend Jimmy Saville if he were alive right now unless there was undisputed video evidence of his deeds so I don’t think we’ve anything further to discuss

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233556#Comment_118233556

Referencing an entirely different scenario is always a convincing move, particularly when delivered without any punctuation.Bravo.

My issue is not with the case, it is with the way it is being reported/ presented. But you are right. There is little point in arguing if you just want to vent your anger here.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233608#Comment_118233608

I don’t normally engage with sex offender apologists so sorry, this is all new to me. Primtime story as covered is good enough for me to make my own mind up ;)

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233620#Comment_118233620

Please tell me what I apologised anyone’s behaviour? As far as I am concerned I pointed out that lack of evidence which should be considered before an actual allegation is made in the news.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233714#Comment_118233714

Bollox to that- you obviously haven’t watched either the documentary nor the resultant newspaper articles-

why don’t you tell “Michael” to “calm down”- in the meantime off to Pakistan to defend him if you feel so strongly about him-

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40750686.html

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233770#Comment_118233770

Same content. “‘May have been” is immediately tuned into “has been”. And you really think this is helpful for anyone? That’s exactly how gaslighting works, and I hear that’s largely deemed unacceptable.

No, I did not watch the documentary, but I did read the articles incl the one you posted now. There is zero benefit in making every patient believe that they were victim to a crime.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233827#Comment_118233827

i never said there was but your alternative world is saying “it never happened unless there’s a smoking gun”-

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233842#Comment_118233842

No. It should not be presented as a fact when the best we have is hearsay. That might well be bedside the investigation was botched or gardai not involved from the start, but the panic inducing is counter productive.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233869#Comment_118233869

I had to consult over a number of hours, emails and paper work going back 11 years before I could rule myself out completely, of being under this doctors supervision so excuse me if I don’t share your sense of “justice” considering our National Broadcaster, RTÉ, named the guy. So frankly, I couldn’t care less what you think.

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233885#Comment_118233885

Thank you for confirming why you are so biased and unreasonable about this case.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233902#Comment_118233902

So your words to “Michael” are?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233936#Comment_118233936

Very empathetic. Fair play !

My words to “Michael are:

Thank-you for helping to make this story known to all

Thank-you for your bravery.

I hope one day you get justice

In the meantime I hope you get the support you want.

I went through just a few hours of panic- I can’t begin to feel your world- stay safe and stay well.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40750686.html

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233938#Comment_118233938

I never claimed to have empathy, it’s not a choice to some. I can pretend if it makes you feel better, but what’s the point.

I think your response makes sense from your point of view, but you seem to have decided that this was definitely a crime. My stance is that Michael doesn’t even know if he was victim of said crime, or if this is just a possibility. I don’t doubt that either version will be a mind ****, but it does not help him (or others) to be branded an assault victim.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233973#Comment_118233973

So now you’re thinking for “Michael” - you’re right on one point, you’re not empathetic . Did you actually read the FIRST LINE of that story?

PS- I never mentioned “crime”- I mentioned Pr1ck alright and a few other choice words but never mentioned “crime” - show me the “evidence” that I mentioned “crime” .

Now you’re twisting words- how does it feel? Hmmm?

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233987#Comment_118233987

Calm down, I just told you I am not empathetic.

You are referring to “your” article. Have a look how it is presented in the other original source for the thread. Then take in how the whole argument for the article is set up.

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118234007#Comment_118234007

You are clearly siding with the narrative provided by the papers, which are going down the crime route. Hence my post above.

You had lost all credibility when you likened me to someone defending the likes of Saville tbh.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118234014#Comment_118234014

I’m very calm but thanks for the empathy all the same :)

We have clearly, in recent posts, been discussing the Irish Examiner article. . No U turns here. Thanks.

But considering your recent post on your response to a person who believes they were abused, I think I have to just call a halt to engaging with you because you’ve gone too far with that post, and it’s dawning on you, only now, And you’re back-tracking rapidly.

Goodbye