Ireland v Ulster build up thread

A-Train · 27-11-2021 10:43PM

Frank Murphy didn’t want to know about Ulster being offside all night.

awec · 27-11-2021 10:44PM

Leo Cullen, Stuart Lancaster, David Nucifora, Phillip Browne, Leo Varadkar, Venjur, your boys took one hell of a beating.

Work that one up yer bangles.

GG. x.

(Good result that).

lawrencesummers · 27-11-2021 10:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233661#Comment_118233661

You can carry a few inexperienced / younger / second,third choice players in many teams, but you cant expect results with few first choice players.

Leinster victims of their own greatness tonight.

Clegg · 27-11-2021 10:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233651#Comment_118233651

He's an excellent young talent that desperately needs game time. Think he's played less than 80 minutes this season. And he hasn't played much rugby since December last year.

It's his brother that I'm more concerned about. He's 26 yet has already hit his peak I think. Just doesn't have the tools for the game Leinster want to play.

Akrasia · 27-11-2021 10:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233654#Comment_118233654

Both teams were offside all night, they had to be, it was the only way to neutralise the ref deciding not to bother policing that law

Ulster were unlucky in the 1st half, those two try line penalties could easily have gone the other way

randomname2005 · 27-11-2021 10:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233666#Comment_118233666

Be that as it may, Leinster should have been in his ear, and made less mistakes. McGrath alone had numerous mistakes, was lucky henshaw did what he did to get the try

hold my beer · 27-11-2021 10:46PM

Worst Leinster performance in years. Half backs were shocking. Forwards made very little ground and we couldn't string anything together. Well done to Ulster, they capitalised on our messyness

Akrasia · 27-11-2021 10:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233675#Comment_118233675

Lol, this is the most Leinster comment of all time

clsmooth · 27-11-2021 10:47PM

Fair play Ulster. Congrats on the win. Better team for the whole game.

Connors was Leinsters MOTM. Frawley, Henshaw and Furlong were good too. Besides that, very average.

Harry Byrne had a few errors off the bench again. Can’t help but think he’s forcing it at the moment. That said, you can see a bit of pace and willingness to attack the line from him. All a learning experience for him.

lawrencesummers · 27-11-2021 10:47PM

Is frank Murphy really the pinnacle of Irish rugby referring.

Never a game where his influence isnt a factor.

stephen_n · 27-11-2021 10:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233681#Comment_118233681

Except he did penalize Leinster for it. Twice.

sydthebeat · 27-11-2021 10:48PM

Fully deserved ulster win.

Played the ref perfectly knowing he was going to blow everything defensively at the ruck, while allowing chaos to stop the cleaners.

Leinster were very poor. Didn't react to the blitz defence at all.

Akrasia · 27-11-2021 10:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233686#Comment_118233686

Ulster didn't capitalise on your messiness, they caused it by matching them up front and forcing them to play deep and get pushed backwards in contact

vapor trails · 27-11-2021 10:49PM

Regardless of who starts, Leinster now play with a big target on their back. The guys behind the starting 15 can rise to it and use it as inspiration or they can get very cosy down there in D4 and come out flat like this.

A-Train · 27-11-2021 10:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233679#Comment_118233679

I’ll take your word for it, very poor this season. Hopefully he does develop because at this moment in time Leinster are in a massive trouble at 10 going forward (excluding Johnny)

stephen_n · 27-11-2021 10:51PM

I wonder did Leinster spend the last 4 weeks working on S&C. Judging by that performance they haven’t done any work on skills or play, that’s for sure.

vienne86 · 27-11-2021 10:56PM

Well done Ulster. Fully deserved win. In our faces all night and just so much more up for it. We gave away far too many penalties but mainly because of Ulster pressure.

sydthebeat · 27-11-2021 10:57PM

We could be seeing signs that having a large squad in this new URC version might actually be a major hindrance.

Players know they now have very limited game minutes so they think they need to make an impact with every game contribution, which leads to discontinuity and errors. Less doing the dirty work while waiting to do the more flashy stuff.

Leinster didn't at all look a team who have been preparing for that game for the last four weeks.

awec · 27-11-2021 10:57PM

Jamie Heaslip bringing a bit of seasoning to proceedings.

Nice and salty.

alias no.9 · 27-11-2021 11:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233593#Comment_118233593

Halfbacks often take the flack when the forwards don't show up

randomname2005 · 27-11-2021 11:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233768#Comment_118233768

There were several unforced errors by McGrath and Hb which had nothing to do with the forwards. Forwards didn't help but half backs can't blame all the errors on the forwards

alias no.9 · 27-11-2021 11:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233807#Comment_118233807

When the forwards are losing the battle, the pressure on the halfbacks increases and they make what look to be unforced mistakes. Leinster halfbacks don't usually experience this.

Billy Burns is busy tonight, starring in the movie on RTE2 after a tough game of rugby

hold my beer · 27-11-2021 11:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233706#Comment_118233706

Fair point but Leinster were terrible with ball in hand when we did have it. McGrath was slow and threw a lot of poor passes and Ross is just so predictable that he's completely ineffective. Probably a lot to do with the pressure from Ulster, but we just looked clueless at times. One to forget.

KH25 · 27-11-2021 11:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233768#Comment_118233768

Yeah, but that doesn’t excuse the general sloppiness of their passing. Quite a few times passes we’re either too high or behind the player and it stopped any momentum. It was consistent throughout the game, even at times when Leinster were making ground and getting on top of the Ulster defence.

ersatz · 27-11-2021 11:32PM

Ulster did to Leinster as Ireland did to the all blacks, without the attack part. For Leinster being behind in the last 20 with only 1 try on the board is it’s own pressure, ulsters work was already done by then. Even without the intercept you’d have expected them to hang on.

eclipsechaser · 27-11-2021 11:33PM

Even more disappointing than the result were some fans from several different rows in the Grandstand who shouted that the ref was a d*ck, w*nker and c*nt at various times during the match.

I was embarrassed, having brought a non-rugby family member to the game. I've been going to games a long time and haven't heard that level of vitriol. It would be a real shame if that started creeping in to the games.

randomname2005 · 28-11-2021 12:07AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233826#Comment_118233826

Absolutely this can happen but, as examples, I'm not sure the kicks out on the full can be blamed on the forwards. Crappy ball at the back of rucks, malls, scrums, absolutely but from memory Hb had enough time and space to kick with little to no pressure on him. They were bad mistakes IMHO