So who has covid? Nov 2021

Lumen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381135#Comment_118381135

"They are saying"? Who is "they"?

The experts are saying that it's difficult to tell whether it's intrinsically less pathogenic or just statistically milder because it's reinfecting the partially immune (recovered/vaccinated), but probably a bit of both.

There's no contradiction.

iamwhoiam

Paul Reid says the vast majority who wants s PCR are getting one that day or the next . How the hell would he know because anyone I know cannot get one for love or money

Stheno

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381412#Comment_118381412

Just more bullshit from him imo

iamwhoiam

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381416#Comment_118381416

Actual lies . Because he has no clue who is trying and not getting one

DeanAustin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381004#Comment_118381004

I have it and haven’t experienced that at all. Anyone I’ve told has been very happy that my symptoms, aside from one bad day, have been mild. Sounds like some form of confirmation bias from you to be honest looking at your post. I’ve not met one person over the last 22 months who has wished worse symptoms/impact on anyone.

copeyhagen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118375728#Comment_118375728

so why the panic and lockdown then, when the govt said it was due to the unknowns of the variant?

copeyhagen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118375593#Comment_118375593

PCR came back positive alright, **** joke. literally dont even have a runny nose, had a blocked nose for about 2 days...

covid twice in about 4 months, both times a joke.

DeanAustin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381473#Comment_118381473

Theres a difference between it being described as the “big bad new variant” and taking precautionary measures because we don’t know enough about it. I’ve heard no one describe it as big and bad.

Faugheen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381473#Comment_118381473

Because what we knew about Omicron was it’s transmissibility. It would lead to larger case numbers and even if it’s a smaller percentage ending up in hospital, out of a large number of cases that’s still a big number ending up in hospital.

This was about protecting the health service and nothing else. Even if hospitalisations are low, staff having to isolate is also a worry.

If ICU nurses were forced to isolate then the ICU’s themselves would be f*cked. You can’t just train a nurse to work in ICU at the click of a finger.

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381412#Comment_118381412

Could probably work it out from application logs.

iamwhoiam

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381517#Comment_118381517

Well i have tried at very least 30 times to book a PCR and no luck

same for many people I know so Paul Reid has no clue about who is getting an appointment .

BENDYBINN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381482#Comment_118381482

My 53 yr old neighbor brought to hospital by ambulance last night doesn’t think it’s a joke..

ACitizenErased

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381517#Comment_118381517

Most people aren’t even bothering trying because it’s a waste of time attempting to get one

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381080#Comment_118381080

I do love the certainty of some statements...

This pandemic is following the trajectory of other corona virus pandemics through history e.g. the Russian flu in the late 19th century. It now looks like Covid has become another strain of the common cold, as the Russian flu did before.

I'm afraid not. It's only a very recent hypothesis - and pretty much since covid came along and people started to look for others in the past - that the 1890 Russian flu might have been a coronavirus and it's still very much conjecture.

The virus gets less severe as it evolves.

Though oft repeated that's not nearly a given either. The first wave of the Spanish flu of 1918 was notably less severe than the second. If we'd only had the first variant it's very likely nobody would be talking about Spanish flu today. Bird flu is another that has become more deadly and more transmissable. Before it was wiped out in the wild smallpox was with us for thousands of years and the more nasty form didn't get any less deadly. It killed over 300 million people in the 20th century alone. Other examples include the pathogens of the Old World when they were introduced into the New World. Viruses like chickenpox and measles that had become childhood illnesses that didn't kill that many Europeans ripped through the New World populations and decimated those populations.

A virus "wants" to become more transmissable, that's it, end of. So mutations that allow more transmissability are favoured by basic natural selection. So long as the host stays alive long enough to spread the virus to another host that's all that the virus "cares" about. Severity is a coin toss. Take omricon. It seems it became more transmissable because it infects cells in the upper respiratory system, rather than deeper into that system. That appears to make it less severe, but again that's more luck than anything. Another mutation could have sprung up that does both. Or because of vaccinations during an active pandemic where transmission isn't reduced enough could introduce strong selection pressures for the virus to mutate and evade the vaccines, which could in turn make it more deadly, or put us back to square one with something like the Alpha variant.

There are too many variables involved trying to equate previous pandemics with new ones. For example in pre vaccination and modern medicine times pathogens essentially burned through populations. Everyone was exposed so after the first wave the ones still standing had some sort of resistance even immunity to the pathogen(this even happened with the plague, a bacterial pathogen and a percentage of Europeans alive today have resistance genes towards it). They didn't get any less deadly. They could in some circumstances become more deadly to those without resistance. The Spanish flu again a good example. Those who caught the first strain were immune to the second and yet it got significantly more deadly.

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381594#Comment_118381594

As a matter of interest do you know if they were vaccinated?

copeyhagen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381594#Comment_118381594

thats terrible, for each person thats sick ive literally heard of about 25 in last few days with 0 symptoms

Faugheen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381626#Comment_118381626

You've heard of 25 people in the last few days with zero symptoms for every one that has had symptoms? You'll have to excuse me if I call bollocks on that one.

I know of plenty of people that have it. 20s/30s and most very fit, active and healthy. Every single one of them is sicker than I am.

This is hitting different people in different ways. Your experience and my experience does not mean everyone else has the same.

ginoginelli

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381482#Comment_118381482

Im really struggling to understand this mindset 2 years in.

The virus will be mild for most people. However, there is a small but significant percentage of people that will not have a mild dose and will suffer severe outcomes.

That small but significant percentage is thousands of people in Ireland and millions globally.

It is most certainly not a joke for them and their families.

I'm glad your alright but step out side your own shoes once in a while.

robbiezero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381626#Comment_118381626

Same. Most i have heard have a few sniffles, the odd one had maybe 1 rough day but havent heard anyone with any remotely serious dose.

Mam1996

So 5 of us at home and all took antigen tests before heading to grandparents on Christmas morning. 2 positive all others negative. Cancelled the trip and isolated. 2 more ended up with symptoms of flu later that day (fatigue, aches, sore throat and temperature) next morning the 2 with symptoms had positive antigens. All but obe PCR test is back now and all negative so far, can't understand it. I really thought it was a no brainer that we had contracted it despite us being way over the top cautious-wise since the beginning of the pandemic. I guess though a false positive is better thana false negative any day. Still getting over the symptoms of what's obviously a bad headcold at this stage.

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381599#Comment_118381599

Obviously if you don't try the portal then they won't have a record. But you could know that the majority who tried got them the same day from application logs was my point.

Marty Bird

Positive PCR returned, cough and a sore throat that’s it so far.

fullstop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381482#Comment_118381482

Would you rather you had ended up in hospital or what’s the issue?

Understand it’s a pain in the hole getting it twice and all that entails, but I think I’d be glad I wasn’t too sick.

Vego

Day 3 ...sore throat gone replaced with Cold symptoms, bit of a chest no temp .....taste and smell still with me 🙏🙏 spent the day cleaning the garage out and the cars ......if this is the height of it I'd be happy .....I'm not about to get a thump here am I 👀

cuttingtimber22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118382157#Comment_118382157

We use voodoo dolls. Cannot have unnecessary mixing even if there is a good cause.

take care and Happy New Year. I will gladly take positive reports any day.

Faugheen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118382157#Comment_118382157

Don’t think you’d get a thump (figuratively speaking of course) for being happy about having mild symptoms.

It’s those who decide to politicize it as if everyone is grand which are getting people the wrong way.

You're in a similar boat to myself. Happy that this is all it is for me. Heart goes out to those struggling/needing additional treatment.

yellow hen

Literally cannot get a pcr test despite 2 days of almost consistently trying. I am isolating with my immediate family but has anyone here who has/had covid had a positive (feint) antigen followed by several negatives? My head still tells me I don't have this but I know the guidelines tell me I do.

Mrs got her positive test today and I got the negative text. So weird, we live together been in each other's company the whole time and been close. I had the Janssen in July.

I never get colds and flus luckily enough in the past. Is there a chance I can avoid it altogether?

I'm not making her isolate within our apartment, unfortunately I'll have to restrict my movements also.

As for her symptoms, she was weak with a slight cough and cold for an hour or 2 Christmas day but she took Panadol and has been flying since. Has me thinking why the furore, but I just can't get over the drastic effect it seems to have on a minority who end up really ill.

Bikerguy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118381482#Comment_118381482

Its wasnt a joke looking at my kids coughing the lungs out... Please be more respectful.. i am happy that you had nothing to worry about but keep in the mind that this is very sensitive topic for some...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118382469#Comment_118382469

You could dodge the bullet.... My wife was looking after me and.my kids for 5 days before she went into labour and gave birth ty mo daughter...and she was negative....and is... While me and my 2 little boys down...pcr confirmed and moderate ill.......

Its individual

yellow hen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118382501#Comment_118382501

Hope you all feel better soon. And huge congratulations on your new daughter.