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Extortionate DoneDeal costs

  • 04-11-2021 2:25pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭ PureBred


    Hi,

    Just noticed it's now €7 to advertise cattle on DoneDeal.

    Surely an opening in the market for a new farming adverts app?



Comments

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭ BronsonTB


    Issue is getting people to switch over to any new app....only would work if everyone used it & they could do it cheaper than DD..

    I've seen 'up the yard' trying to compete with DD but failed to get the traction needed to succeed.

    BTB

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  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭ PureBred


    That's it alright I suppose.

    Although its been done before where Buy and Sell was the king!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭ BronsonTB


    That was more a change form paper to online - DD got in their before with a decent site - Buy & Sell were behind the times & missed out.

    BTB

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,711 ✭✭✭ funkey_monkey


    SellMyLivestock.co.uk charge between 0.5% - 2.0% fee for selling. Now they do more in that they take the money from the buyer, take their fee and then pass on the remainder to the seller - so in theory your payment should be 'secure'.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,644 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Albert Johnson


    It's hardly extortionate to be fair?? The mart seller's commission in any mart I frequent is more than €7 a head (usually €9-€10 apiece) and you've to haul them to the mart as well. If you have stock that are in demand and correctly priced there easily sold most of the time no matter what outlet you choose. I'd still prefer the mart if selling in most cases but Donedeal suits some people and I've often bought stock off it. Of all the faults I'd have of Donedeal the price of the ads wouldn't be one of them.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭ Dozer1


    DD has the market cornered in terms of private selling, @7euro its still ok value in my book, as Albert said by the time you'd be in the mart the 7 euro would be well spent



  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭ Easten


    DD and the mart are not direct comparisons. For one the mart handles the transaction so you are guaranteed payment. The mart has an auctioneer to get the best market price for you.

    All DD does is put a picture and your details on an app so 7 euro is very costly. You have to handle the calls, try and sell the animal, arrange times etc then when you do get paid, wait hope and pray the cheque doesn't bounce.

    It'll probably take an outside crowd like livestock live, or some other farming app to compete with DD them as they have a leg in on the customer base already



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭ squinn2912


    €9-10 in the mart??? Is that standard in the south? We have to give £20 a beast!



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,385 ✭✭✭✭ Dempo1


    Have to agree, I'm not a farmer but a neighbour of one and help him out with placing adverts, the costs have doubled in recent times and to add the insult they then try and push adverts onto adverts.ie for an extra €3 , taking the Pee I think but little other options I'm aware of.

    I suppose they've the market sewn up and know it 🤔

    I'd be happy for any alternative recommendations

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 855 ✭✭✭ Still stihl waters 3


    Jesus 7 euro, hope you don't ever try to sell machinery or trucks on it, its 7 euro an ad not an animal, if the stock is good it'll sell or if its priced right it'll sell, I sell a lot of stuff on donedeal and it's about finding the right price, plenty lads asking bullin money for yokes they know wouldn't make that sort of money at the mart, 7 euro for selling from your own door is shopping as it should be



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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,385 ✭✭✭✭ Dempo1


    I actually believe €7 per advert regardless what your selling, I placed and advert for tractor last month , it was €7

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 855 ✭✭✭ Still stihl waters 3


    Some ads are more expensive, some motor ads can go up to 20, starting at 10 for basic ads



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,385 ✭✭✭✭ Dempo1


    Apologies, I miss read OP , I didn't spot the single animal part 🐄 😁

    I actually didn't realise adverts could go as high as €20 .

    Apologies again 😏

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭ enricoh


    Facebook? My missus picked up plenty of stuff for the kids off it, I'm not on it so dunno if there's any livestock on it.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,644 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Albert Johnson


    Sorry my mistake I had an absent minded moment and put the buyer's commission instead of seller's. Buying commission is usually €9-€10 and seller's around €20 all figures per head, again apologies for that oversight.

    Donedeal definitely isn't in direct competition with the mart and you have the headaches of time wasters, securing payment, viewings ect that aren't part of an auction based sale. However I still reckon for the service provided Donedeal isn't exorbitantly expensive. You're gaining access to a wide customer base which is never a bad thing in any market and it's up to the parties involved as to where you go from there. A breakfast roll and cup of tea would cost the guts of €7 atm so I'd reckon its not that bad of value especially if you secured a sale.



  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭ Easten


    How does it compare to the likes of Ebay, Gumtree, Amazon etc where you can sell stuff for a few cent, have 0 relisting fees either.

    Its just down to a lack of competition that they can charge so much.

    All these 7 euros add up you know, from tags to testing to selling there's not much left to keep for yourself



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,644 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Albert Johnson


    I see you're point but how many suckler springers or pedigree bulls are listed on any of the aforementioned? Donedeal has a wealth of stuff listed in countless categories both inside and outside of agricultural. It must be the best part of 20 year's on the go at this stage and has gained serious traction in the last decade so they must be doing something right all the same. I've no personal connection too it and I buy a lot of bits and pieces especially second hand books (can't rate them highly enough) off Amazon.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,644 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Albert Johnson


    Was it Toplink that the journal launched as it's competition to Donedeal? It was working off the same premise and I don't think it gained that much of a foothold to the best of my knowledge.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭ hopeso


    I was just looking at Donedeal lately for a few heifers, and one thing that struck me is that a lot of the ads are advertising stock that will be appearing at the mart in the coming days. It seems like a lot of sellers are prepared to pay both Donedeal and mart fees to sell their stock. Is there any value in advertising stock before bringing them to a mart like that?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭ squinn2912


    Our local mart will post up pictures on Facebook to notify buyers what’s gonna be available

    there’s Ballybay mart itself advertised it’s sale on DoneDeal every week



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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,202 ✭✭✭✭ whelan2


    7 euro isn't going to break anyone, how much is it to advertise in the farmers journal?



  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭ PureBred


    I suppose the point I was trying to make was that it first started for free. Then it was €3 for an agri animal ad, only earlier in the year if I can remember correctly. Just got a shock when I saw €7 this time. You can in no way compare the service to a mart to be fair. I just think its a bit of exploitation for what it is. They already make their money from advertising etc.



  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭ Easten


    Government were really asleep at the wheel when they allowed Distil media to take over adverts.ie They now own DoneDeal and adverts along with other apps. A monopoly has formed which isn't right



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭ 9935452


    Different sections have different prices. They tried to make it so the higher value stuff gets charged more .

    Certain sections are free for 30 days. Hand tools and machinery section is free.



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,385 ✭✭✭✭ Dempo1


    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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