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Open First Secretary DFA 2021

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3 toryumon


    looks like results are out.

    my score was 183 - qualifying standard but not enough to be called to the next round this time.

    Anyone got any insight on numbers or the chances of further callups?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5 bangorbrix


    Is the final interview likely to mirror the same sorts of questions in the video interview do you think? Trying to work out how duplicative it will be and whether I’ll need additional examples for the competencies already covered at video interview - to avoid giving them the same examples twice.

    My message said I’d be invited to final interview but no indication of when and I’ve a holiday coming up, so hoping they don’t conflict 😫



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 hippo24


    I'm at a real loss of my score of 156, is there any way to appeal or request feedback?



  • Registered Users Posts: 22 marley83


    You can request feedback in other Civil Service competitions, so I presume the same goes for this competition. And while it's great to get that feedback (speaking from experience), the feedback will not be very detailed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15 Wing Back


    It was my first time doing a DFA competition, as I'm very much finance based. I have started to work with EU material over the past few years however and said I'd try my hand at this as I'm very interested in Diplomacy and International affairs in General. Was happy to have hit the pass mark for each Question/Competency but overall only scored 179......So a bit off the 225. I'm guessing that it might be the end of the line unless they only called a very small batch initially.

    Saying that I said I'd throw it out here first before emailing PAS. Does anyone reading this thread know anything about the following:

    -Total no. of applicants for competition?

    -Total no. called for video interview?

    -No. of candidates who reached qualifying standard?

    -No. of candidates who scored over 225?

    -What is the next stage of the process?

    -What other stages are after this in the process?

    -No. of forecast available posts?

    PAS don't seem to have any phone lines for general enquiries because of Covid which seems a bit daft. I work in Public Service, and for the past 2 years all my work calls just come through my laptop. I know I can send an email too, but just want to talk to a human being I guess.

    Thanks for any information



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  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭ Avenger2020


    If its any consolation to anyone I am at a real loss of my score as well. Especially as I opened with the fact that I have been assigned an AP role since last year… The standard must be unreal. ‘I’d love to hear from those that got through - if its luck, how you present yourself or career experience. Id say there’s little hope for anyone who didn’t make the cut as I hear vacancies r very limited this time as they also ran an internal competition last year. Personally I think the selection panel should be made of PAS officials and maybe an external examiner rather than staff from a small department like DFA. It was mentioned on the Tonight Show recently given the Champagne scandal that there’s a lot of family and connections in there. I think Shane Ross mentioned that but I must check.



  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭ Avenger2020


    I don’t think PAS release information of competitions ongoing. Not very transparent, I know, and by the time it is released we will have forgotten about it or not bother contesting! Most other countries even publish the names of the successful candidates at this stage! It would make it easier to call out anything that may be going on if so.



  • Registered Users Posts: 321 ✭✭ LegallyAbroad


    In what way is DFA a small department?

    It has more employees (over 1,300) than the Departments of Health and Transport put together.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1 misswrite347


    I heard there were interviews last week and this week. Anyone here get called to them?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 kj2022


    Yes I interviewed last week. Anyone else? Not holding out much hope - wasn’t a disaster but was definitely a challenging interview. Panel were all extremely nice though.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Ladda


    Results are out! I’m almost at 20 on the panel. How did others get on?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1 DBB2022


    Yes, I’ve placed too. I wonder how many are on the panel and how many appointments will be made right away?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 kj2022


    well done! I have also placed- also interested in likelihood/ pace of appointments as I have another job offer on the table and am wondering what to do!



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Ladda


    I see there is also an interdepartmental panel created. I wonder which panel will be prioritised?



  • Registered Users Posts: 321 ✭✭ LegallyAbroad


    It is 1:1:1 ratio between internal/interdepartmental/open so neither will be prioritised.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5 bangorbrix


    I’ve placed too! I’m so delighted as I had Covid during the interview so was not my finest performance 😅😅 I heard rumours they appointed in lots last time eg 5 off internal, then 5 off open etc, but not sure if there’s any merit in that. But like everyone else, really curious to know how likely it is to actually secure an appointment off this merit list!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5 bangorbrix


    Interested to know what backgrounds others on the Open have come from? I’m from the civil service myself, but not in Ireland



  • Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭ Xofpod


    Not necessarily the case - for example, if a lot of candidates have been placed recently from an internal DFA competition, there may be a debt owed to the "external" two compenents, so all the next appointments will take place from these sources. Previous experience would suggest that they may take a batch of people from the external panel at the start. Congrats to all who got through.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5 bangorbrix


    Not to be the bearer of bad news but just in case anyone was wondering about future interview rounds, when I tried to reschedule my interview due to covid they told me that they couldn’t reschedule and they could only add me to the list if they did another round of interviews later, however, “it is not envisaged at present that we will be calling further batches to interview for this competition.”



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Ladda


    Hi all, did anyone get on the panel get called? I haven’t heard anything.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1 HopingforNewZ


    Hi all, I also placed on this panel, though I don't expect to hear anything soon. Does anyone know if people have been called yet?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5 bangorbrix


    First 10 have now been called for vetting I think



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