Stupid things a learner driver does!

cavan_man2021

I was driving home one evening, as I left the town I had a little prick in a little pricky car with a big L plate on the back window. He was driving at 20 mph, then graduated to 30mph. When we got out to the country and past all the bends he got up to 40 mph on the straight part. That was until I went to over take the little **** and I was bombing it on the right side of the road doing 75mph, with a oncoming vehicle flashing me . I had to sound the horn at him! Luckily I got past him without killing myself or the on coming vehicle colliding with me. I was so angry with these stupid little prat, that he down booted when I was overtaking him.

YFlyer

Mad.

endacl

You sure you didn’t mean this to be a rant in the pub?

Ironman76

What about a thread “Stupid Things Experienced Drivers Do” . . Like the fact 90% don’t bother indicating. As a motorcyclist the last 20 years I have rarely have a bad experience with learner drivers.

wexandproud

so your on the wrong side of the road , speeding towards an oncoming car yet you see the learner as the problem , says a lot more about you level of competency than the other persons

cavan_man2021

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118025549#Comment_118025549

Bloody rant around a tree mate

Burt Renaults

Similar things have happened to me before, although not necessarily with learners. Sitting patiently behind a slow moving car until it's safe to overtake. And as soon as I attempt it, they floor it. Unless you're driving a vastly more powerful car, the safest thing to do is always pull back in behind them.

cavan_man2021

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118025553#Comment_118025553

Lol that's not quite the way it went down, overtaking requires going past the car in front could hardly fly over him !

Takes lessons from an instructor starting on Main Street 😁 That is, to say, one of the hardest things when learning to drive is operating the clutch, and pulling off smoothly..... So, if the learner is a complete novice, it makes it very awkward as s/he has to concentrate on : pulling out (most likely close to a car parked in front) , clutching/steering , as well as being mindful of the traffic coming from behind.. Better off meeting the instructor outside town...

whisky_galore

Stupid things overtaking drivers do?

Allinall

What does mph mean?

dmc17

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118026733#Comment_118026733

Mightn't Pass Him. It's what you're thinking as you're driving on the wrong side of the road into oncoming traffic.

beachhead

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118025553#Comment_118025553

The learner speeded up to prevent the experienced driver passing.That's what poster says.It's not just learners who do that.

beachhead

mph - mighty prick here

callaway92

What’s with the moronic responses here?

OP likely was overtaking a car within the speed limit, when the car he was overtaking started speeding up like a lunatic. It’s a lethal thing to do by the other person and I have seen it a good bit more recently.

cj maxx

When taking my ex-wife out driving, she would stop on blind corners to 'have a think. How we didn't get clattered is beyond me

callaway92

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118025553#Comment_118025553

Have you ever driven a car or are you just thick writing this?

Oranage2

I've seen a learner stopping at the second set of lights at a junction, they can turn but the light is red for the drivers going straight

fun loving criminal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027081#Comment_118027081

I've seen this a few times. I actually worry about these guys. I mean, who thought them to stop like that? Or are they doing their own thing, they really shouldn't be on the road.

Killinator

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027033#Comment_118027033

Taking the OP at their word they must have been speeding as 75mph is 120km/h.

So the only way he wasn't speeding was if he was on a motorway and if that was the case then he wouldn't be overtaking into oncoming traffic

cavan_man2021

OP here. There seems to be a few non drivers or micra drivers posting silly replies but this was a long straight part of the the road to overtake. Very safe to over take on. Most experienced drivers overtake a slow vehicle, it would be an unexperienced driver who would not. Remember this guy was driving at 40 mph (only experience drivers know what that is).

The learner is a bad driver who decided to race me as I approached past him on the right. Obviously playing too much GTA at home. What I forgot to mention was that he was early 20s with his mates in the backseat and his experience full license driver beside him laughing his arse off. My passenger seen this

I think I will invest in a camera for the dash so I can record this bullshit and report to garda.

Killinator

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027211#Comment_118027211

What were they driving? Just he jumped from 60-odd km/h up to 120km/h before you could get past, so pretty quick, especially for a fully packed car.

How do you know the front seat passenger was an experienced full licence holder? Maybe none of his passengers had a licencea and he was being extra cheeky and driving unaccompanied.

Also if you reported it to the Gardaí, you'd effectively be admitting to speeding so open to prosecution yourself.

I'm sure the other driver would say they were driving at a safe speed while driving on twisty country roads and sped up when it was safe to do so and then some maniac came flying by trying to overtake well over the speed limit, with no camera it's easy for either side to paint the other as a villian.

callaway92

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027136#Comment_118027136

No. Again - They were overtaking at a reasonable speed when the nutjob that he was overtaking then sped up. Not tough to grasp it from the OP

cavan_man2021

This what makes me sick about posts , is all the knob end posters with their do gooder comments. Op must be speeding and on the wrong side of road! Jesus christ , how **** else way can you overtake! You drop the **** gear to 3rd and go. If we were all so righteous, there would be long tailbacks behind tractors and learners all over the country.

magicbastarder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027033#Comment_118027033

as an experienced driver, the OP's correct response should have been to abandon the overtaking manouevre. the worst excuse for driving like an idiot is 'the other guy started it'.

cavan_man2021

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027422#Comment_118027422

That's okay to suggest but when the gap behind you closes as the car behind me was going to overtake as well because it was along clear stretch of the road. It's a typical overtake spot where 5 cars can scoup past tractor easily.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027033#Comment_118027033

The problem is, it never happened.

Killinator

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027383#Comment_118027383

Riiiiight.

But they said they then went to 120km/h which means unless they were on a motorway they were speeding! It's there in black and white.

"That was until I went to over take the little **** and I was bombing it on the right side of the road doing 75mph, with a oncoming vehicle flashing me"

OP never stayed what speed the other car went to.

You overtake it it is safe to do so, there's nothing in legislation that allows you to exceed the speed limit to do so.

As said above, an experienced driver should have backed out of the scenario if as painted by OP but then again the OP never stated what speed the other driver went to, only that he himself was 'bombing it'.

Maybe OP could furnish some more details? Like the limit on the road?

But just in case there is doubt:

19 Overtaking

19.—(1) A driver shall not overtake (or attempt to overtake) if to do so would endanger, or cause inconvenience to, any other person.

(2) A driver shall not overtake (or attempt to overtake) unless he can clearly see a portion of the roadway which—

(a) is free from approaching traffic, pedestrians and any obstruction, and

(b) is sufficiently long and wide to permit the overtaking to be completed without danger or inconvenience to other traffic or pedestrians.

cavan_man2021

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027440#Comment_118027440

Wish it didn't, but it did, I was so **** pissed off. I'm always on the watch out for the little whippersnapper

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027458#Comment_118027458

Of course you are, best of luck speedy 😉

Fandymo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027211#Comment_118027211

I love when someone doesn’t get the responses they want on a thread, the story develops and more and more “details” emerge to try and get posters onside. Hilarious

I dunno about some of the responses (might have been clarified since) /... The LD was driving at 20-30-40mph on leaving the town, and navigating the bends... The next speed mentioned was 75mph (not unusual for a novice to be extra cautious on bends, but there's little or no fear/trepidation for most people - even learners - to go at speeds around 70/80mph when they're driving (effectively) on a 'runway' , so to speak) on the straight.. In his OP, the OP makes no mention at what speed the LD was doing, when first the OP endeavoured to overtake the LD..

What speed was the learner doing when first you signalled your intention to overtake OP? Btw, it sounds from your post that you done this at 40mph, and I agree with you that that was disgusting/criminal behaviour by the driver in front 😒

magicbastarder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027434#Comment_118027434

so now we have multiple cars bombing along a country road at 120km/h+

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027517#Comment_118027517

Well, if the learner was driving at a max of 40mph 'before' he got to the 'straight stretch' ; this would have allowed for plenty of time for traffic to build up behind.... And by 'Country Road' , perhaps he meant a road 'out in the Country' , which could well be a Main/National Road... Whatever about the legalities of it, there's many a Main Road (doesn't need to be a Motorway) where folk can happily drive along (and often do) at close to speeds of 80mph, and even above..

Killinator

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027537#Comment_118027537

Another interpretation of the incident is that some d*ckhead was tailgating a learner driver who was being cautious on backroads and then when he sped up on the safer straight stretch the same d*ckhead decided to overtake in to oncoming traffic because he was an impatient a**hole!

Who can say for sure 🤷

callaway92

Some of the responses here, honestly.

It has to be people being fools for the sake of it, has to be. The situation was completely understandable for the OP to complain about.

Killinator

Still hoping OP can explain how he knew the person in passenger seat up front who was laughing away was an experienced driver?

Or what the speed limit was?

Or what the learner was driving?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027579#Comment_118027579

Indeed, that's very true!! 😊 I never even considered the possible 'tailgating' factor in the equation, as my natural reaction is to believe the OP, and for them to be an 'honest broker' 😁

Killinator

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027601#Comment_118027601

Your first mistake 😛

cavan_man2021

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027136#Comment_118027136

You obviously take the bus! Up north we are real drivers, not pussies in buses playing on their phones!

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027601#Comment_118027601

Look at the join date, look at the post count, look at the controversial language in the op.

You're here long enough not to be making rookie mistakes like that 🤣

magicbastarder

QED.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027618#Comment_118027618

Doesn't matter how hard you are (as opposed to 'the pussies' down South), or anyone else 'up North' for that matter, when it comes to being 'real drivers' 😁; if you were tailgating a novice driver on a windy stretch of the road, then no matter how 'hard' , or 'real' he may be otherwise; it's got to be a serious mitigating factor against his putting the boot to the floor on the straight stretch.. So can you tell us whether or not you were right up behind the jacksie of a driver displaying L Plates... Bad form if you were...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027661#Comment_118027661

There is all that... But current regular/prolific posters may well have joined up to post something similar...Needing to have a rant is perhaps often the impetus someone needs to sign up to a message forum! 😁.... Plus, when someone is annoyed/riled up they may not find it easy (nor even want to) to be diplomatic in their posting style.... Always like to give posters the benefit so I do...

nj27

Learners are usually not bad in my experience, sometimes stall and sometimes a bit too slow but they don't seem to do anything outright dangerous. The worst drivers on the road are builders in vans and sorry to say it but really old people.

Killinator

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027618#Comment_118027618

N'ah hate the bus.

Real drivers up North, yeah, sure, I'm sure Red Bull, Ferrari, Mercedes and McLaren are all fighting to sign ya up

magicbastarder

funny thing is, when out on the bike, there are certain car reg plates you kinda notice more than others in terms of dickish behaviour. this thread has not disabused me of some of my preconceptions.

EmmetSpiceland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027823#Comment_118027823

I’ve said it before but it’s worth stating again, those driving BMW, or Audis, with the German font on the reg are, almost, always utter prats.

magicbastarder

it's lads driving 15 year old passats with nurburgring stickers on them who are the ones you need to watch most of all.

Yester

We need to stop people learning how to drive. There are enough people on the roads already.

Ten of Swords

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118027458#Comment_118027458

Now we're getting to the meat of the issue op, what are you gonna do if you see him again?

Gwan, tell us 🤔