Professions that attract sexual predators.

robinbird

Sexual predators are cunning and amoral and it is interesting to note that the jobs that interest them have changed. An important element is of course access but they also feel the need to be santimunous and virtue signal

The top professions used to be

Priest,

GAA/Swimming coach

Teacher

Currently top sexual predator jobs

Third world charity aid worker

Homeless aid worker

The Mighty Quinn

Sauce?

Dempo1

Not exactly a Thread I was expecting to come across this morning but here goes.

I'm not going to name any profession that attracts sexual predators because in essence its not the profession that attracts such behaviour or individuals outlined in Thread Title, essentially they can and are found in every profession, that's just a sad reality.

Jequ0n

So jobs that involve a suitable pool of troubled and marginalised people whose claims can easily be challenged and discredited. What’s so surprising about this?

Donald Trump

Would one get banned for suggesting "Mod" as a joke? 😋

Wanderer78

op, maybe you need to do a little more reading! sexual offenders actual have underlying psychological issues, many themselves have been sexually abused at some stage in their lives, and require immediate and urgent psychological supports, in order to try prevent their actions, and repeat offending. unfortunately since our health system, and particularly the psychological element of our system is what you could only call fcuked, these disturbing events still persist in our society today, so, go us! op, do some fcuking reading, or better yet, talk to mental health professionals who have had to deal with such individuals!

Politician.

Parachutes

British Royal.

corner of hells

Sheep farmer.

tinytobe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058210354/professions-that-attract-sexual-predators

Sales organizations can be very sexualized environments at times. It's often denied, but it goes on quite a bit. Macho attitude of some sales guys, promoted to managers, leading a team, females achieve their sales targets or getting an easier achievable quota by "being more sexually willing".

dePeatrick

Pimp…

Hangdogroad

Scout leader.

barney shamrock

Butcher, baker, candlestick maker.

robinbird

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117936897#Comment_117936897

Forgot that. Deninitely one of the main ones in years past

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058210354/professions-that-attract-sexual-predators

Other than the more recent event with Anthony Flynn , give us an example of a homeless service employee being a sexual predator?

Atlantic Dawn

Radio/TV Presenter.

Taxi Driver

riclad

showbusiness, the film industry, the cast couching is not a myth.I don,t think the radio business is a big source of sexual predators.if you look at activision a large gaming company ,It makes call of duty, ,its in the news now for a government lawsuit about sexual harassment of female workers . there were alot of scandals in america about swimming coach,s or athletic coachs engaging in sexual harassment. I have never read anything about the gaa re sexual predators being employed there .maybe its common in any large industry where most of the managers are male, but theres a small minority of lower level female workers .there have been cases of sexual harassment in the fashion industry, as young vunerable female models depend on male agents or managers to get work especially at the start of their career .

Swaine

It's a long time since I've read a more ridiculous OP. One guy from a homeless charity is caught abusing and you taint it as a ruse for sexualising the vulnerable. Christ.

I bet you're one of these folk you see in Facebook comment sections egging on the dumb asses making vidoes trying to hunt paedos.

robinbird

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117939835#Comment_117939835

How many priests and scout leaders were charged or convicted in the 70s and 80s? If you look at other countries like the US there are multiple charges against executives and staff at homeless services businesses. e.g. a few months ago Victor Rivera CEO of one other most successful homeless businesses in New York charged with multiple counts of sexual assault..

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117939971#Comment_117939971

New York ?

Not Ireland. Try again.

johnny five

Discord admin.

Guffy

Looking for a career change OP?

tdf7187

Hedge fund manager (Epstein)

Hollywood movie producer (quite a few of them)

tdf7187

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117939835#Comment_117939835

I think he has a point that sexual predators are much less likely to go into teaching these days as vetting has improved enormously and kids and parents are far more likely to realise what is unacceptable behaviour from a teacher and to report it. Frankly, it could be argued it has gone too far the other way as males who would be very suited to the career are almost afraid to go into teaching. This results in a situation, maybe not in all schools but certainly in some, where young males often lack good male role models.

robinbird

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117940968#Comment_117940968

Same could be said for GAA coaching and other child centered professions. It probably is the case that it has gone too far the other way. There is nearly an assumption that any interaction will a child has sexual intentions so most adults these days including myself are very extremely aware that even talking to a child is dangerous and potentially open to misinterpretation. A man in cork was recently sentenced to three years in jail because he was talking to a girl in a park and asked her to go for a walk with him. That was the full extent of the evidence. From which sexual intent although never expressed was assumed and he was publicly shamed and sent to jail.

So predators have to look elsewhere. Although I admit there is not much evidence in this country a position is the growing homeless industry would seem ideal. Third world charity aid worker has to be the ideal profession for sexual predators and paedophiles these days though. A position of power and influence working for a powerful organisation that will protect you with access to the vulnerable and powerless

tdf7187

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117941482#Comment_117941482

In relation to the Cork case, that sounds very strange, do you have a link? What offense was he convicted of that would warrant such a sentence? I have to say it was very unwise of him to ask a presumably unrelated underage person to go for a walk with him and could easily be seen as attempted grooming, but I can't see how that alone would merit a 3 year jail sentence or any jail sentence.

robinbird

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117941556#Comment_117941556

Story below. He talked to a girl in a park and the child alleges that he asked her to go for a walk (he says he was misinterpreted) That was the full extent of the evidence.

She ran to her mother who began a public shaming campaign against him before he was arrested, tried and jailed.

How many people reading this story could remember a time they innocently had a conversation with a child for a few minutes and thought to themselves never again will I be so foolish to do something that is so dangerous.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40311713.html

Notmything

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117941482#Comment_117941482

Tbf you're the one making the implications that people go into careers so they have access to children.

robinbird

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117941608#Comment_117941608

True. I'm kinda contradicting my own premise which was implying that people that go into certain professions have ulterior motives when for the vast majority in these professions that is not the case.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117941482#Comment_117941482

They're incredible allegations you're making.The sole incident in Ireland with abuse of homeless individuals is very well documented. Mainstream homeless services vet their employees before employment commences and most employers vet the individual on more than one occasion through the course of their employment. I'm vetted every two/three years Students placements are vetted as well as being vetted as you between employment.

robinbird

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117941668#Comment_117941668

However there are now a very large number of homeless organisations. And although most of the mainstream ones probably vet employees I don't think that it is a statutory requirement. For example there is a group in Cork called " Homeless Help and Support" Every Friday they park their SUVs on the footpaths in Cork City centre and the employees reach out and engage with homeless. No vetting needed to join.

TheValeyard

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117941597#Comment_117941597

That seems bit bizarre alright.

The incel thing would definitely raise an eyebrow, but I'd assume it's not a crime to be member of said group.

It did seems like a case of his word vs hers, but her conviction in his intentions said it all.

robinbird

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117941703#Comment_117941703

Although the child's interpretation of his intentions was very much influenced by the Karen of a mother who saw every male as a sexual predator.

It could very well have been a socially awkward loner having brief chat with a child in a park with no ulterior or sexual motives.

ceegee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117941728#Comment_117941728

Any evidence that the mother saw every male as a sexual predator, and not just the ones who ask little girls to go for walks in the park with them?

Ger Roe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117936897#Comment_117936897

No a profession - Scouting is a volunteer based organisation.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117941679#Comment_117941679

Yet their website stipulates you must be vetted in order to volunteer.

robinbird

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117941779#Comment_117941779

So it does. Maybe I should not have tried to tie in my issues with the proliferation of homeless organisations, the motives of those that join them and belief that they are doing more harm that good with a discussion on sexual predators.

GetWithIt

The OP was framed around sexual predators. That it has veered solely towards child abuse says a lot about our history.

My observation would be that if you have an industry or profession that provides status and reward disproportionate to the role then it is going to attract dysfunctional individuals. Sexual predation is then going one of many dysfunctional behaviours which is displayed.

A list based purely on the above and my own biases:

Local hero sports stars

Tech entrepreneurs

Venture capitalists

Charity founders

Old school landlords

robinbird

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117941751#Comment_117941751

Well. His claim is that he did not ask the girl to go for a walk in the park. That he merely said that he was going for a walk and the girl misheard it.

However the jury chose to believe the girl that he did in fact ask her to go for a walk.

However bear in mind that this was the only accusation against him. That he asked the girl to go for a walk.

And he was jailed because anyone who asks a girl to go for a walk in a park is a paedophile with intention to sexually abuse her.

This is where we are at as a society.

retalivity

"Professions that attract sexual predators." - Lead Campaigner for removal of certain Christmas songs from the radio.

ceegee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117941836#Comment_117941836

You frame that as if it's a perfectly reasonable action for a grown adult to invite a child they don't know to go somewhere with them. It's not.

ceegee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117941809#Comment_117941809

A lot of it is also down to media reporting. Your example of sports stars: 99% of cases might not involve people who played sport at any high level, however you'll never see a report mentioning "the defendant, 34, was rubbish at football". The same goes for a lot of the careers you mentioned. Charity worker gets mentioned in the headlines because it attracts interest. If someone's a labourer, or accountant, or a plumber, it gets buried in the story, if mentioned at all.

A lot of the cases you see before the courts involving downloading child sexual abuse images seem to involve men working in IT.