2021 NFL season - Week 3 thread

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117942807#Comment_117942807

Sounds like you are off the Nagy train @Oat23 although I’m not sure how on it you’ve been prior to this.

Oat23

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117942818#Comment_117942818

I WAS on board with Nagy being head coach in the mould of Mike Tomlin. Let him be the leader. Let him be involved in gameplanning and scheming on offense but keep him away from playcalling.

He gave up playcalling last season and things improved, but then took it back after the season. I'm done with him now. Too stubborn and too proud to know his own limitations. He better be fired on January 10th.

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117942841#Comment_117942841

https://twitter.com/realmikewilbon/status/1442211058165460993?s=21

This tweet seems be in the same vein as you oats23 and the replies are uniformly in agreement with this tweet. For a non bears fan I have to say I found mat Nagys whole “scheme” answer to a reporters question bizarre and then had to get the bears PR to clean up that mess.

Oat23

Myles Garrett has been 1 v 1 against 39 year old Jason Peters all game. No help at all, even now after Garrett being a gamewrecker through 3 quarters. Peters is still out there 1 v 1 trying to block him.

It's criminal.

1 net passing yard for the Bears offense today. Nagy finally 1 screen with 3 minutes left when the game was already over. Amazing.

paulie21

Tucker walk off 66 yards field goal. Chargers pull off the win despite some bizarre play calling

Itssoeasy

A record NFL field goal of 66 yards bounced off the crossbar and dropped over for the ravens to get the win in detroit.

GoldFour4

Don’t post a lot in this forum anymore (judging by page number not many do after the transition) but wow Justin Tucker has to be the best kicker in league history. He has been clutch since the start of his career.

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117943014#Comment_117943014

Yeah the chargers made it way harder than it should have been.

Lionbacker

Pain.

dfx-

Rather give Mahomes the ball with a final drive than give Tucker any FG opportunity.

Zoton

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117943026#Comment_117943026

Lions always finding new and unusual ways to lose.

Thought the 4th and 19 would maybe be enough to close it out. Sigh...

Itssoeasy

Andy Reid left arrowhead in an ambulance after not feeling well. The bucs and rams game wasn’t lighting the world alight so I’ve switched back to redzone.

Itssoeasy

The fact the eagles aren’t playing today isn’t helping my enthusiasm to watch this week’s games.

Itssoeasy

TD rams to go 14-7 up. I had to double check I was watching redzone and not the rams vs bucs game.

Itssoeasy

And I want the bucs to win for two reasons. 1) because I have Brady, Godwin, and fournette on my fantasy team and 2) because the bucs play the pats next Sunday night where Brady returns to New England to take care of family business.

Itssoeasy

The jets don’t even look likely to score and it’s nearly half way through the third.

Itssoeasy

This dolphins vs raiders game has been entertaining.

Itssoeasy

That looked like gronk was winded.

Itssoeasy

The jets look like they’ll be shutout.

Christy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117943634#Comment_117943634

Averaging under 7 points per game.

6 points across the last 2 games. Defense has been decent but they have been against teams with better defenses than offenses generally and well teams start running the clock pretty early against the Jets. Though they have not been helped by the offense on field position either.

Foxtrol

Don't see a reason why the 49ers are sticking with Jimmy, that Lance TD run shows exactly the type of stress he puts on a defense. I would understand if Jimmy was playing at his peak attacking the middle of the field but he isn't and the 49ers clearly do not trust any of their remaining RBs so it impacts a pocket QB even more. 49ers should be out of the game but with 2 more CBs gone out and Rodgers is carving them up it is time to take the risk.

Foxtrol

Ugh, Jimmy played better in the second half but WTF were they doing a) snapping it for the touchdown that early with all their time outs, b) not covering Adams when the Packers had the ball.

Frustrating but much better in the second half again, especially with all the injuries. Can't start slow again the next two weeks against the Seahawks and the Cardinals.

Still think Lance is the way to go - sick of seeing a limited offense to hide a limited QB.

Christy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117943849#Comment_117943849

You don't want to go with all the rookie mistakes that will bring like missing short throws and sending them into the defenders hands or throwing it backwards for the defense to recover. Jimmy had some good play but also loses his mind at times.

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117943826#Comment_117943826

What are you basing this off, is it his 5 yard pass or 4 rushes for 3 yards?

Shanahan is no fool and he's shown he will run with the hot hand in other positions so I'd guess it's a case of him believing that Lance isn't ready yet.

Foxtrol

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117945283#Comment_117945283

I am basing it off a) watching every snap Jimmy has taken since joining the 49ers where he has shown his limitations (even ignoring his regular rookie level mistakes - not being a mobile threat and having arm strength limitations limits any throw outside of the numbers or anything long which combined makes things much easier for any defense), b) watching a good bit of tape and analysis of Lance from college and every snap during preseason (where he has consistently shown he is incredibly mobile and top tier arm strength), c) watching what is successful in the league right - which is not having a physically limited QB trying to dink and dunk their way up the field.

I don't think you've been paying attention to Shanahan at all if that is your assessment of him over the last few years, it is a consistent frustration of 49ers fans that whenever things are close between two players that Kyle will normally go with the vet rather than a younger player that has more upside and playing well. Kyle definitely might feel like Lance isn't ready but I don't know if that is the most likely option, he also might believe that with his scheme and the rest of the squad Jimmy is the lowest risk right now - with a ceiling that is high enough to win most games and a high enough floor to avoid losing most games. Over 3 weeks we've seen that work twice and fail once, I however think you have to be incredibly lucky for that plan to win a Super Bowl and with 49ers CBs and RBs being once again decimated with injury there comes a point when you need the QB with more upside.

eagle eye

Lol, so basically you know more than Shanahan.

Why don't you go get yourself a coaching job and work your way to the top!

Foxtrol

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117945906#Comment_117945906

Second time you've thrown out this sort of nonsense over the last few weeks - implying a person can't have an opinion that disagrees with a coach or GM.

Boards is already dying a slow death, it wouldn't exist if people could only provide opinions on fields where they worked. No matter what you believe, coaches and GMs are not infallible deities.

The most laughable thing is that you are a complete hypocrite, you regularly post opinions that disagree with decisions of coaches and GMs.

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117943746#Comment_117943746

Have they led in a game yet this season? I'm despairing of any wins this year. Dreadful everywhere.

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117946186#Comment_117946186

Yeah that'd be bad coaches. Shanahan is a really good one.

The guy hasn't shown anything in the NFL yet for us to have an opinion as to how he compares to Jimmy G.

Like the season before last he QB'd his way to a Superbowl.

Foxtrol

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117946790#Comment_117946790

Shanahan has his flaws, both he and Lynch are very open in interviews that they've made mistakes since they took their jobs with the 49ers.

I know a bedrock of how you rate players is the 'QB winz' stat but that run to the Super Bowl is a prime example of how it is misleading. Jimmy played better in the 2019 season that most gave him credit for but he wouldn't be top of the list of why they got there and Jimmy's limitations and the limitations he puts on Shanahan and the team are part of the reasons why they lost that game.