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Parking antenna on bumper = nct fail

  • 15-09-2021 3:49pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭


    Just wondering if the following will fail nct?


    Not sure if ce rated



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭deegs


    For reference, how will I know if the tyres will pass also...

    For reference it is a Japanese import?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I suspect that could fail as likely to injure a pedestrian under the general condition checks but that would depend entirely on the tester.


    https://www.ncts.ie/media/wiwmmcpc/nct-manual-june-2021.pdf page 93 for tyre checks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭deegs


    Thanks, presume that would be only a visual / free retest.

    And thanks for the link, my tyres have a E4 rating so they look good to go 👌



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,762 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    If it's not a hazard to predestrians or cyclists it will pass, is it flexible or rigid? I'd say if rigid it will fail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭deegs


    It's all metal but has a little bend in it, kinda like an old radio antenna if that makes sense.

    It is currently riveted on. I suppose I could take out the rivets and screw it on. That way if it fails I could immediately remove it for a visual retest there and then. Would that work?

    If I remove it altogether my bumper will have one big hole and 3 small holes so I expect that would also likely be a fail. Am I right in that logic?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭Speedline


    They would be looking for sharp or jagged edges. I reckon that would fail due to the bracket, but I don't know for sure. Could you pop by a centre before the test, and approach one of them and show them that pic?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,762 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    I'd leave it on, if it fails it will be a visual inspection when you bring it back to check.

    This for example passed, does look to be flexible rubber though...

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-rictis-welcab-auto-2008/28348423



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,282 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    One of my cars has a parking pole but it's on top of the bumper and that passes every year. The bracket on yours looks like a fail for sharp edges but I'd leave it on for the test and chance it, it will probably depend on who tests it to whether it fails or not



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,704 ✭✭✭User1998




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,129 ✭✭✭kirving


    If you were to hit a cyclist even slowly, the top horizontal section of the bracket could turn a bump into a serious injury. Even if it passed the NCT it should be removed and replaced with something like Atlantic Dawn has posted.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭wildwillow


    Agree with kirving. The fitting would cause serious injury to a pedestrian or cyclist. I would at least change that, for safety never mind the NCT. The antenna is also probably too rigid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭9935452


    You can just put tape over the holes if you think the sharp edges will fail the test. We have put silage tape on sharp edges to get tgem through the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭deegs


    Yup, the safety points are fair. Will remove it and tape and see hoe it goes. Appreciate the feedback folks.

    Wile we are on it do you think the same sharp edge principle applies to this? Has just pulled a little of the bumper back on the wheel arch. Not sure to try and melt it back smooth or glue it back etc for the nct. I'll eventually replace the piece altogether but for the nct what you reckon is best!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Need a picture.


    As above duct tape on cracks and holes seems to be the go to for short term repairs and passes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭deegs


    Edited there. Can go with the tape again. I'll be like father Ted and the hammer... Won't see the car for tape 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Ya I'd see if you can heat it up and press it back. Then unfortunately yes duct tape. It works though !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    The design of the bracket suggests there was probably some plastic cover that clipped onto it.

    It's called a "corner pole" or "fender pole". No antenna, it's just a piece of metal and or plastic, sometimes illuminated at the top.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭Comment_below


    What's the point of a parking pole?


    On the same topic are bonnet emblems like that of Jaguar or Mercedes banned for pedestrian safety?

    Is that why Rolls Royce bonnet emblem hides away when driving and can be electrically popped up to impress everyone ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    It's used for judging where the corner of the car actually is, especially on cars from pre parking sensor era.

    Rife on Japanese imports



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    Yes, it's a visual aid for the driver. Also: People in Japan are on average not particularly tall (about two inches shorter than average in Ireland), which may make seeing the bonnet more difficult depending on the car.



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