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Civil Service - Post Lockdown - Blended Working?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    Decentralisation of whole Units / Departments was a huge mistake back in the day that resulted in huge losses of experienced staff and tacit knowledge, plus led to stagnation in promotional opportunities for those who did decentralise. I know people who decentralised 20 years ago and today they are still the same grade and doing the same role in the same unit they decentralised to, as they found themselves stuck. It was good for unattached people who could rent a room and move around easily enough, but not so good for anyone who had a family / spouse / spouse's employment to also consider.

    With WFH and modern technology, people can live anywhere they want, and maybe commute 1/2 days a week. I also know people living as far away as Sligo now who travel to Dublin to do one day a week in the office.

    Converting some of the government offices located around the country into shared, secure multi-department government hubs, as I described above, was considered as a potential way forward, as part of the blended working framework.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Jet Black


    Can anyone tell me if there are any restriction on when you can apply for remote working? I didn't have any work I could do remotely but now after a few years I have some. They sent out an email at the start of the year and give a deadline for the closing date of applications but I don't see anything in the policy that says remote working can only be applied for only at certain times of the year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,046 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    IIRC, there was a "deadline" for applying for remote working on the NSSO website, though nobody could really explain why? New starters where I work have been getting access to remote working, no problem.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,543 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I think the idea there was that existing ad-hoc remote workers had to regularise their position by a certain date - get official approval, jump through the H&S hoops, etc.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 279 ✭✭JennyZ


    If a Dept has a blended working policy of for example 3 days in office and 2 WFH (not set office days, can be picked on a weekly basis). If on annual leave then in a work week for example 2 days, technically how many office days should employee fulfill that week?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭wench


    You'd need to check the exact wording, but in mine it is phrased as 40% attendance, 2 days minimum.
    So if we work a partial week, you still have to do the 2 days, even if that's 100% of that week!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    WFH is negotiated for each individual /role, but the most common arrangement in my dept is for staff to work the same set days in the office every week. I don't know anyone personally who decides what days they are working on a week-to-week basis.

    We also have 40% attendance in our policy, but no weekly minimum, and there is no written requirement anywhere within that policy for staff to "make up" for absence on leave on another day. (I was involved in drafting the policy.)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,046 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Same as Ezeoul, here. 40% attendance, and we've a monthly roster. If in a particular month, you've a public holiday or other leave on what would have been one of your office days, happy days, you don't have to make it up. Most people will still end up working two days when there's a public holiday, but some don't, and the roster varies enough that it's not always the same people getting the public holiday on their office day.



  • Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭curiosity


    Same, but with a weekly 'anchor day' in each area/section when all staff are to attend office. The other day is your own choice.

    The two day rule is regularly monitored by HR.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 34,543 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Wow what a load of pointless micromanagement. Just let people get on with the job.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭Mr lebowski


    Does anything happen if you don't complete it? I never filled it in or did most in my department as of yet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    That headline should read 'Apple,Microsoft and SpaceX successfully removed high earners without having to offer redundancy and increased shareholder dividends.'



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