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Russia - threadbanned users in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    The theories I have seen in media and here on Russia's holding back of air forces etc. are that they are not williing to lose a strategic defence/offence in the event of a wider confrontation with Nato. Has the risk of aircraft loss diminshed since, I thought the Ukrainians air defences have only been bolstered since?

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Well they still posess a large amount of attack aircraft and heavy bombers,any large movement of vehicles and equipment will have to be covered by air defenses ,this could lead to gaps in their current network of systems which they already have Stated isn't enough to cover large parts of Ukraine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    The Ukrainian general staff have gone on record saying their air defence capabilities have been massively degraded over the past 13 months.

    Russias use of Iranian drones is a likely culprit - they are inexpensive compared to AA missiles, and any missiles used to hit them risks exposing the positions of Ukrainian AA installations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,723 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Chechen Kadyrovite jeery bastward soldiers mock a Ukrainian with a kidnapped Ukrainian child.

    The bastwards are using children for leverage in this war. This is direct Putin nazi kidnapping children ideology for brainwashing to be good nazi's, rashists.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    🚨Currently, the russians are shelling Kharkiv region with S300 MLRS, explosions are one after other.


    And drones apparently are still heading towards Kyiv.


    F#ck ruzzia



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    They have 18/20 HiMars which are being used at safe distances away from Russian counter batteries,

    But moving hundreds of vehicles everything from ifv , tanks , artillery, rockets, humvees out in the open they becomes easier to target,if by pure luck on the Russians behalf, we've seen what happens to the Russians when they try to move 10 vehicles, ukraine could run into the exact same difficulties,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Ukraine releasing statements that imply they need more air defense equipment wouldn't be very surprising but with what they have they continue to shoot down moskovyte aircraft with the count presented in this article claiming they have already destroyed 306 warplanes and 291 helicopters of the moskovytes even when they have by many accounts being holding back to protect their air attack capabilities.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    And at the same time ukraine has lost valuable aircraft that they can't afford to lose too , only recently they lost a mig 29 ,in Crimea alone the Russians have 90 attack aircraft and 60 attack helicopters, that's still a serious amount of air power they still have their naval vessels too,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,723 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Russian commentator on the Wales v Latvia game tries to be smart and says these are young people from the Baltic states who don't live there anymore. As normal for Russian projection to hide their own inadequacies.

    All most on cue, then the Latvian supporters start chanting Putin Khuilo song.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭macraignil


    I agree Ukraine has also lost aircraft and they have less aircraft to loose than the moskovytes. The moskovytes reluctance to send in their aircraft to strike on Ukrainian forces is in my opinion based on their understanding of the dangerous setting that flying over Ukraine presents for both sides. The attrition rate for moskovyte cruise missiles is well over 50% in recent massed attacks where multiple strikes are launched at the same time. The attrition rate for moskovyte aircraft is likely to be similar if they send in their airforce to deal with a counteroffensive from Ukraine. I'm not sure what you expect the moskovyte naval vessels to be doing to respond to a counteroffensive by Ukraine but I'd guess Ukraine will have a strategy to make them less effective in case they decide to become active and try to stop them from freeing their occupied territories. The forces of the moskovytes that you seem to like hyping up haven't convinced the Ukrainians to just give up and let the moskovytes take over their country and I don't see that changing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,324 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    I said the other day also that let’s hope the Russians aren’t holding back their aircraft for the counter offensive.


    Then again they didn’t unleash it during the Kharkiv or Kherson counter so…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Ukraine does posses the ability to protect a large counter offensive, from artillery, rockets ,missles, Aircraft and weapons launched from the sea ,yes the Ukrainans are shooting down missles over Cities where they have multiple air defenses but week in and week out the Russians missles and rockets are getting though,

    The problem will be protecting large numbers of vehicles out in the open, just as we see ukraine stopping attacks from Russian armor, ukraine will face the exact same issues but with the added risk of Russia using their aircraft advantage,they are already showing they can drop bombs on Ukrainian positions from outside ukraine and away from air defenses ,but when ukraine moves large amount of vehicles it gives the Russians the ability to hit the Ukrainans on open ground, something the Ukrainans don't have the ability to defend against



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,313 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Kherson direction


    Evaluation of the forces and activity of the enemy: the Armed Forces of Ukraine were concentrated in the direction of up to 12 thousand people. At the same time, entire railway tracks make it possible to quickly transfer reserves equal to a full-blooded army corps. Throughout the winter, they kept a census of boats, carried heavy equipment at night, received pontoons and bridge layers from the west, as well as river boats transported by land. They trained combat swimmers near Nikolaev and in Ochakovo.


     They conducted reconnaissance in combat and opened our firing positions with counter-battery radars. RER activated. Drone attacks, incl. FPV doesn't stop.


    In the rear of the front, the enemy is restoring the crossings and clearing the area of mines. Including in areas where there is no need for this at the moment. Possibly under units that have yet to arrive.


    Recently, there has been an increase in DRGs, drones, reconnaissance flights, and agents.


    ⭐️Thus, based on the available open data, we can conclude that the enemy is likely to massively force the Dnieper. The question remains - will it be the main or distracting blow.

    🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,313 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    bakhmut_2weeks_ago.png

    Bakhmut from 2 weeks ago.

    bakhmut_present.png

    Bakhmut today.

    At the rate the Russians are currently going, perhaps it will fall in 3 months?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,313 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,625 ✭✭✭✭briany


    The Russians will be in Kyiv by...

    ...uh...

    Anyone remember that song "In the Year 2525"?



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    So Ukraine attacking a fortified position is a bad move, theyve lost too many men, cant repeat last year's victories and Russia will settle in for a longer war / frozen conflict.

    I cant gainsay his military analysis, other than to note that the Kharkiv offensive was opportunistic based on spotting weakness so they can maybe repeat that. If the opportunity doesnt present, they could take it. If not, maybe its best not to attack.

    I wonder was the time to strike in early winter, even if the weather wasnt favourable and the troops were tired? The option now might be not to attack, at least not on a large scale.

    I do think he is maybe overestimating Russias ability to sustain a protracted war. They can do so at small scales in transnistria, south ossettia etc where its a case of supplying a few thousand militants. Supporting the Russian army in indefinite field operations is a different scenario.

    The question then is who breaks first, Russia or Ukraine. I would hope Ukraine will remain supported for another few years. Failing that, they will try to survive without international assistance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    I'm not sure if you meant to respond to me or not?

    Beverly Hills, California



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,723 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Ah now see what you did now Mr.Putin.

    Now they all want to follow Ukraines example and breakaway as far as possible from your rotting corpse of a nation.

    *PooTin envisaged this however and took these areas young male population for the meet grinder in Ukraine.

    Braincells are firing in many areas now cos of Mr PooTin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,324 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Also states Ukraine will have little to no air support for the counter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,313 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    The problem is that both sides are now heavily dug in. Any attack will be quickly spotted from miles off, the artillery and anti tank gunners open up and the attackers have to run the gauntlet of heavy fire before they can even engage the enemy positions.

    A recent failed Russian offensive in Vuhledar.

    A recent failed Ukrainian offensive near Bakhmut.

    How does any side break this deadlock without taking significant casualties? I've struggled to see any quick conclusion to this war for a long time unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,625 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Analysts like Michael Clark and you yourself have predicted that Ukraine will attempt to fight a war of mobility because obviously grinding attrition warfare only really suits one side, or that is to say that it suits one side quite a bit more than the other. If Ukraine can drive a wedge between Russian forces and hold their lines, then it puts Putin in a pickle, especially if that wedge is to the southern coast. He loses the land bridge and therefore the last thing he could really settle with, and the political pressure will begin to mount more severely. If Russia attempts to bunker down for a frozen conflict situation, could they keep it frozen if and when Ukraine takes a consignment or two of Abrams tanks or any of the more sophisticated weaponry that it will take a longer time to train on?

    People talk about how the Russians get when they smell blood. By the same token, if Ukraine launch a counteroffensive that makes good gains, then I see no great impediment for more and better weapons to come to Ukraine if the country's leadership and people continue expressing a will to fight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,723 ✭✭✭✭Say my name




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Finland has been ratified by the Turks for Nato membership,

    Essentially Finland are now a NATO members,

    Turkey are currently holding the swedish application up until Erdogan gets what ever he wants from Stockholm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Another month another Russian round of conscription for another 150,000 men/ soldiers.

    What's the last count at .





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,078 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Francie

    The game changes come spring. Spring is always late in Russia/Ukraine. The ground will not harden until mid/late April.

    How do you defend a thousand kilometers front. Ukraine is waiting for hard ground. Russia is now down to T70/60 series tanks. They will lack mobility

    This war will turn to a hard fast interaction. Technology will be what it is all about. Russian anti tank guns are immobile even if they have them

    The Ukrainian's stopped the Russian offencivies with obsolete anti tank weapons (well that and flat Russian tyres). NATO tanks will have been tested against these weapons.

    June will tell a story

    Remember

    BAKHMUT HOLDS

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭SteHam




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,078 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Slava Ukrainii



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