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Online Gambling Adverts: Too Many?

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    #32
    Sandor Clegane
    Registered Users Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    kippy wrote: »
    How about curtailing advertising on gambling so it isn't wall to wall?
    Do you not think kids are way too exposed to it?
    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Well, from the poll I put up with this thread and the number of thanks in my first post - it looks like I am not alone in my opinion that adverts for online gambling (and other forms of betting, especially around sporting events such as football) should be banned outright - or at least curtailed.

    The Irish Association of Psychiatrists has noticed a huge increase in patients presenting with gambling addiction issues over the past couple of years, and have called for an advertising ban, as has the Labour Party. See the link below...

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40192743.html
    kippy wrote: »
    Totally - anything to reduce the glorification and normalisation of the activity.

    Sounds all to nanny stateish for my liking.


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    #33
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,401 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Sandor Clegane wrote: »
    Sounds all to nanny stateish for my liking.

    And your opinion on Alcohol and Cigaratte advertising? Too nanny state ish?

    There's a reason we have to have standards around pretty much everything - and it's got nothing to do with being a nanny state.


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    #34
    Sandor Clegane
    Registered Users Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    kippy wrote: »
    And your opinion on Alcohol and Cigaratte advertising? Too nanny state ish?

    There's a reason we have to have standards around pretty much everything - and it's got nothing to do with being a nanny state.

    My opinion on alcohol is the same, cigarette's are a bit different in the sense you can damage people around you so tighter restrictions should be in place there regarding usage in pubs and restaurants etc, but adults should be left to make there own decisions, having the government step in and interfering is something I don't like, plenty of people can gamble and drink responsibly and those people shouldn't be impacted because some can't control themselves.


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    #35
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,401 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Sandor Clegane wrote: »
    My opinion on alcohol is the same, cigarette's are a bit different in the sense you can damage people around you so tighter restrictions should be in place there regarding usage in pubs and restaurants etc, but adults should be left to make there own decisions, having the government step in and interfering is something I don't like, plenty of people can gamble and drink responsibly and those people shouldn't be impacted because some can't control themselves.
    If you gamble responsibly I don't see how the lack of advertising or restricted advertising impinges on your passtime to be honest.
    Addiction is a complex thing and that 'some' is becoming more and more as the years go on.
    Exposing kids and teens to gambling advertising is doing far more harm than good to these age groups.
    You think alcohol and gambling and the likes should have free reign to do what they like with respect to advertising?

    It's a fairly naive standpoint if so.


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    #36
    Sandor Clegane
    Registered Users Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    kippy wrote: »
    If you gamble responsibly I don't see how the lack of advertising or restricted advertising impinges on your passtime to be honest.
    Addiction is a complex thing and that 'some' is becoming more and more as the years go on.
    Exposing kids and teens to gambling advertising is doing far more harm than good to these age groups.
    You think alcohol and gambling and the likes should have free reign to do what they like with respect to advertising?

    It's a fairly naive standpoint if so.

    But they're all ready heavily monitored, overbearingly low so for alcohol and cigarettes, I just saw an ad for problem gambling tonight too.

    When the government step in on issues like this they don't no when to stop.


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    #37
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,401 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Sandor Clegane wrote: »
    But they're all ready heavily monitored, overbearingly low so for alcohol and cigarettes, I just saw an ad for problem gambling tonight too.

    When the government step in on issues like this they don't no when to stop.

    I'll go back to my first point - if you gamble responsibly what odds to you if there are no gambling advertisements or tie ins with sport?


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    #38
    Sandor Clegane
    Registered Users Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    kippy wrote: »
    I'll go back to my first point - if you gamble responsibly what odds to you if there are no gambling advertisements or tie ins with sport?

    It's not so much as limiting advertising, it's what will come after that and then after that and so on and so fourth, that's just the start it wont stop at that.

    Look where we are with alcohol, minimum pricing, it's a joke give them an inch and they'll take a mile.


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    #39
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,401 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Sandor Clegane wrote: »
    It's not so much as limiting advertising, it's what will come after that and then after that and so on and so fourth, that's just the start it wont stop at that.

    Look where we are with alcohol, minimum pricing, it's a joke give them an inch and they'll take a mile.

    So nothing needs to be done then.


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    #40
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    should Online Gambling Adverts be banned??....no online gambling itself should be banned, it is a parasite on modern day society...mark my words we'll have a wave of the population in huge depth in the coming years with the suicide rates increasing in tandem, our lawmakers have to intervene


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    #41
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users Posts: 5,660 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    fryup wrote: »
    should Online Gambling Adverts be banned??....no online gambling itself should be banned, it is a parasite on modern day society...mark my words we'll have a wave of the population in huge depth in the coming years with the suicide rates increasing in tandem, our lawmakers have to intervene

    Ban online gamblin, replace with bookies and casinos on every corner


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    #42
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    at least high street bookies & casinos can be policed to a certain extent, but online it's the wild west...its depraved tbh


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    #43
    blackbox
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭blackbox


    Betting is optional. Adults are supposed to be able to decide for themselves.

    What bugs me is that the government subsidises horse and greyhound racing.

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    #44
    Motivator
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    blackbox wrote: »
    Betting is optional. Adults are supposed to be able to decide for themselves.

    What bugs me is that the government subsidises horse and greyhound racing.

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    The government subsidise the industries, not the gambling side of it. Even though it’s a little dated now, have a little read of this article you might learn something.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20458568.html%3ftype=amp


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    #45
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    yes it is optional, but for some when you're being bombarded night & day by temptation it's hard to resist, and in the long run it will ruin their lives


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    #46
    jobless
    Registered Users Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭jobless


    ban them.... sick of the sight of them... they are everywhere


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    #47
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,401 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    blackbox wrote: »
    Betting is optional. Adults are supposed to be able to decide for themselves.

    What bugs me is that the government subsidises horse and greyhound racing.

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    That's a very flawed outlook.

    How does someone make the option to gamble? What influences them?


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    #48
    GBX
    Registered Users Posts: 11,915 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    I used to gamble - a lot. I had a problem.

    I was sucked in by it all: The joy of winning, the "banter", the feel good of winning and constantly chasing the money. Occasionally I won big but that was rare. I chased those big wins to the point I was betting silly bets on random sports and leagues thinking I had it figured out. I didnt. I lost regularly. I pissed away quite a bit of money - small amounts but over time I realised the small amounts equated to a lot. I fell down the rabbit hole of "oh another €10/20/50 and I'll win it back and be up again" but that cycle was never ending and I was in a bad place. I got very down. It broke up my relationship. It cost me a lot more than money. I came out the other side, I don't gamble anymore, I still like sports but that's it.

    For anybody in a similar situation, its hard to avoid gambling. You can't turn a corner without seeing an ad, without seeing a betting shop - they are as bad as Starbucks popping up everywhere. Now with social media, it can be a constant barrage of ads - no matter how many time you click the "hide ad/I don't like this type of ad" button they keep coming at you. These companies have it all figured out on targeting people. They are leeches. I wasn't forced to make a bet by anybody and blame nobody else but me.
    I feel sorry for people in similar situation who have no help - but there are help mechanisms there. Its something I avoided because I felt like a failure if I did ask. Seek out help, talk to those close to you.

    There will be people who say its my own fault and that's fine, but we all have our faults. Some people drink, eat, run, read books - humans have an addictive personality but to be constantly preyed on by these companies its wrong.


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