Online Gambling Adverts: Too Many?

JupiterKid

Over the past few years, the number and frequency of adverts for online gambling, particularly on TV, has not escaped my notice. In fact, it seems that since the Covid-19 pandemic kicked off and the lockdowns began, there are even more of these gambling ads on the TV and online.

I think they are insidious, far too prevalent and highly questionable from an ethical and moral perspective - given how dependent the gambling industry is on problem gamblers and gambling addicts. Late night TV seems to be particularly saturated with these adverts. They also seem to have some sort of sporting angle - to appeal to young lads, presumably.

Anyone else agree with me or have other thoughts on this?

Quantum Erasure

i bet you're right

Wanderer78

JupiterKid wrote:

I think they are insidious, far too prevalent and highly questionable from an ethical and moral perspective - given how dependent the gambling industry is in problem gamblers and gambling addicts. Late night TV seems to be particularly saturated with these adverts. They also seem to have some sort of sporting angle - to appeal to young lads, presumably.

Since when has the world of gambling ever been ethical or moral? Surprised, come on now!

Hande hoche!

The ads in the wee small hours of the morning can be quite depressing.

Car99

It's a horrible industry with no positives unless you are a bookie. Online or bricks and mortar they should all be shut. If you're losing they welcome you with open arms but if you're a regular winner they'll shut your account. They have it all their own way.

Genre..

Car99 wrote: »

It's a horrible industry with no positives unless you are a bookie. Online or bricks and mortar they should all be shut. If you're losing they welcome you with open arms but if you're a regular winner they'll shut your account. They have it all their own way.

Too late for prohibition now, maybe back in the day when it just bricks and mortar

My major concern is the insidious gambling targeted at minors

fryup

online gambling and gambling apps should be banned the temptation is just too great, and if we don't take steps we're going to have a pandemic of gambling addiction and the misery that goes with it the coming years

The J Stands for Jay

Hande hoche! wrote: »

The ads in the wee small hours of the morning can be quite depressing.

The ads on UK satellite channels are depressing; online gambling, 2000% APR loans, fast fashion

El Gato De Negocios

Gambling should be treated the same as alcohol and cigarettes. If you are watching a Sunday afternoon game on Sky for example you are guaranteed to see at least 20 ads for different book makers, completely glamourising betting, all they show are the highs of winning, gambling is going to be the biggest addiction issue for people in years to come. It's become completely normalised, from online slots to bingo to poker to football. Absolute blight.

Royale with Cheese

If you've ever watched a football match on Sky or BT you'll have noticed this being a problem for the past 10 years. Wall to wall betting ads every time there's a break, with maybe the odd ad for ordering your dominos pizza for half time thrown in. It's absolutely relentless. I don't mind the odd bet myself but this ultra aggressive advertising should have been banned years ago.

Genre..

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

If you've ever watched a football match on Sky or BT you'll have noticed this being a problem for the past 10 years. Wall to wall betting ads every time there's a break, with maybe the odd ad for ordering your dominos pizza for half time thrown in. It's absolutely relentless. I don't mind the odd bet myself but this ultra aggressive advertising should have been banned years ago.

No doubt the Premier League has been a major problem

They took the corporate pound the whole lot of them

Dunno what the UK government was doing, looks like they were asleep at the wheel or didn't care

golondrinas1

They invite you to set your limit . I lmao when I see this. They know you're going to lose they just give you the chance to say how much !. Shure you can always change the limit to chase your losses.

Flinty997

I have noticed a lot of ads too. I have no interest in gambling. But what irritates me is how bad they are. Gaudy and cheap. Do they not spend any money on advertising, because that what it looks like. They make millions and yet manage to look like some backstreet flyer.

Hande hoche!

Will give Kevin Bacon credit for advertising for a mobile network rather than a gambling website. The latter seems to be a regular occurrence these days.

Wanderer78

fryup wrote: »

online gambling and gambling apps should be banned the temptation is just too great, and if we don't take steps we're going to have a pandemic of gambling addiction and the misery that goes with it the coming years

already well in action, the size of the paddy power offices is very telling, i dont think theyre losing all that much!

Capt'n Midnight

Hande hoche! wrote: »

The ads in the wee small hours of the morning can be quite depressing.

try morning / early afternoon when it's all about getting cash out of OAP's for funeral plans / release equity

Hande hoche!

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

try morning / early afternoon when it's all about getting cash out of OAP's for funeral plans / release equity

Fair point, with the occasional meal delivery ad thrown in for diversity.

Xander10

They send out the message to kids and everyone on fact, that you can't enjoy a sporting event properly, without having a bet on it.

So many lives will be ruined by addiction. Seem to be no will be governments to curtail.

Wanderer78

Xander10 wrote: »

They send out the message to kids and everyone on fact, that you can't enjoy a sporting event properly, without having a bet on it.

So many lives will be ruined by addiction. Seem to be no will be governments to curtail.

nice tax revenue id imagine, and it favours certain sectors such as horse racing, which are well protected by government

Capt'n Midnight

It's a mugs game.

even the claw machines are rigged


https://i.imgur.com/raWpeaT.mp4

kippy

I've a thread started a few years ago in the same vein as I am sure there are more like it also.
All this advertising does is normalise the behaviour amongst our young and impressionable people. And agreed something should have been done about it years ago

Atlantic Dawn

It would have to be all gambling ads, including lottery and bingo. I'm also against how RTE can pause the children's film every Saturday evening to show the Lotto draw, pure criminal.

machiavellianme

Genre.. wrote: »

No doubt the Premier League has been a major problem

They took the corporate pound the whole lot of them

Dunno what the UK government was doing, looks like they were asleep at the wheel or didn't care

8 teams in the Premier league were sponsored by betting companies so there's no escaping them when they are playing.

Widdensushi

There should be a watershed time at the least, I have have my kids repeating back odds advertised mid match etc

Sandor Clegane

Screaming for bans and restrictions on gambling is akin to curtailing alcohol consumption by force, i.e the early closing times of off licenses and minimum pricing, I don't agree with it.

Potential-Monke

I don't watch tv much if at all anymore, but I can attest that the online ads on YouTube are 90% gambling. My waking hours are 4pm to 8am, and on my off nights inbetween sessions of gaming, I throws on YouTube to watch some crashes, or NBA highlights, or just random YT stuff. Because YT are a bunch of greedy cnuts, they force ads on every video now, regardless of content (some parents found out the hard way when putting on that 1 hour lullaby song they've always used, to have the child woken up with some screaming ad after a few minutes - plus some ads now are entire videos in themselves, some upwards of an hour or more). But as I be watching on the PS5, I can't install adblock, etc. I also refuse to watch the ads, so I close the video and open it again. When you do it this way, it tries anywhere from 3 to 9 (the highest I counted so far) times to show you an ad before it'll play the video.

From about 1am the gambling ads start to take over, and the other morning I counted 4 in a row before the video played. I'm not sure how this would work on a kids console, but I don't bet at all (lotto aside, if you consider that betting, which I don't), so they're not targeted ads. So yeah, aside from all the great points mentioned above as to why they should be banned/curtailed, I want them banned because I'm sick of see the first second of every one of them, constantly.

On a side note, because of my refusal to watch ads, since this crappy practice began, I've watch more bits of videos than I ever have. As they have ads in the video, I won't watch them unless they're the 5 second long or skippable after 5 second ones. Anything else, I close the video and will rarely if ever try to watch it again. If it's somewhat worth following up, I'll save it to a playlist to play on the PC when I use it. I surely can't be the only one.

kippy

Sandor Clegane wrote: »

Screaming for bans and restrictions on gambling is akin to curtailing alcohol consumption by force, i.e the early closing times of off licenses and minimum pricing, I don't agree with it.

How about curtailing advertising on gambling so it isn't wall to wall?
Do you not think kids are way too exposed to it?

JupiterKid

Well, from the poll I put up with this thread and the number of thanks in my first post - it looks like I am not alone in my opinion that adverts for online gambling (and other forms of betting, especially around sporting events such as football) should be banned outright - or at least curtailed.

The Irish Association of Psychiatrists has noticed a huge increase in patients presenting with gambling addiction issues over the past couple of years, and have called for an advertising ban, as has the Labour Party. See the link below...

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40192743.html

Grayson

kippy wrote: »

How about curtailing advertising on gambling so it isn't wall to wall?
Do you not think kids are way too exposed to it?

How about if in every advert for gambling they had to put equal time into showing the downsides? 30 seconds of showing someone winning followed by 30 seconds of telling about a home that was destroyed.

I remember reading that at least 30% of people who gamble online are addicted. It could be a lot more.

I don't have any issues with gambling per se. I know loads that bet within the their limits. A fiver here, a tenner there. I'll play the odd lotto or even the grand national.
But it needs to be heavily regulated. There needs to be limits and strict ID checks so people can't just open up a new account with a new email address. And if someone is blacklisted in one company, they're black listed on others.

And finally gambling firms should shoulder the cost of all addiction treatment. They make money from something that's highly addictive. They should take responsability for their actions.

kippy

Grayson wrote: »

How about if in every advert for gambling they had to put equal time into showing the downsides? 30 seconds of showing someone winning followed by 30 seconds of telling about a home that was destroyed.

I remember reading that at least 30% of people who gamble online are addicted. It could be a lot more.

I don't have any issues with gambling per se. I know loads that bet within the their limits. A fiver here, a tenner there. I'll play the odd lotto or even the grand national.
But it needs to be heavily regulated. There needs to be limits and strict ID checks so people can't just open up a new account with a new email address. And if someone is blacklisted in one company, they're black listed on others.

And finally gambling firms should shoulder the cost of all addiction treatment. They make money from something that's highly addictive. They should take responsability for their actions.

Totally - anything to reduce the glorification and normalisation of the activity.

Montage of Feck

You can hear the sincerity in Stevie G's voice when he says "this is betting" on the Boyle sports ad.

Sandor Clegane

kippy wrote: »

How about curtailing advertising on gambling so it isn't wall to wall?
Do you not think kids are way too exposed to it?

JupiterKid wrote: »

Well, from the poll I put up with this thread and the number of thanks in my first post - it looks like I am not alone in my opinion that adverts for online gambling (and other forms of betting, especially around sporting events such as football) should be banned outright - or at least curtailed.

The Irish Association of Psychiatrists has noticed a huge increase in patients presenting with gambling addiction issues over the past couple of years, and have called for an advertising ban, as has the Labour Party. See the link below...

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40192743.html

kippy wrote: »

Totally - anything to reduce the glorification and normalisation of the activity.

Sounds all to nanny stateish for my liking.

kippy

Sandor Clegane wrote: »

Sounds all to nanny stateish for my liking.

And your opinion on Alcohol and Cigaratte advertising? Too nanny state ish?

There's a reason we have to have standards around pretty much everything - and it's got nothing to do with being a nanny state.

Sandor Clegane

kippy wrote: »

And your opinion on Alcohol and Cigaratte advertising? Too nanny state ish?

There's a reason we have to have standards around pretty much everything - and it's got nothing to do with being a nanny state.

My opinion on alcohol is the same, cigarette's are a bit different in the sense you can damage people around you so tighter restrictions should be in place there regarding usage in pubs and restaurants etc, but adults should be left to make there own decisions, having the government step in and interfering is something I don't like, plenty of people can gamble and drink responsibly and those people shouldn't be impacted because some can't control themselves.

kippy

Sandor Clegane wrote: »

My opinion on alcohol is the same, cigarette's are a bit different in the sense you can damage people around you so tighter restrictions should be in place there regarding usage in pubs and restaurants etc, but adults should be left to make there own decisions, having the government step in and interfering is something I don't like, plenty of people can gamble and drink responsibly and those people shouldn't be impacted because some can't control themselves.

If you gamble responsibly I don't see how the lack of advertising or restricted advertising impinges on your passtime to be honest.
Addiction is a complex thing and that 'some' is becoming more and more as the years go on.
Exposing kids and teens to gambling advertising is doing far more harm than good to these age groups.
You think alcohol and gambling and the likes should have free reign to do what they like with respect to advertising?

It's a fairly naive standpoint if so.

Sandor Clegane

kippy wrote: »

If you gamble responsibly I don't see how the lack of advertising or restricted advertising impinges on your passtime to be honest.
Addiction is a complex thing and that 'some' is becoming more and more as the years go on.
Exposing kids and teens to gambling advertising is doing far more harm than good to these age groups.
You think alcohol and gambling and the likes should have free reign to do what they like with respect to advertising?

It's a fairly naive standpoint if so.

But they're all ready heavily monitored, overbearingly low so for alcohol and cigarettes, I just saw an ad for problem gambling tonight too.

When the government step in on issues like this they don't no when to stop.

kippy

Sandor Clegane wrote: »

But they're all ready heavily monitored, overbearingly low so for alcohol and cigarettes, I just saw an ad for problem gambling tonight too.

When the government step in on issues like this they don't no when to stop.

I'll go back to my first point - if you gamble responsibly what odds to you if there are no gambling advertisements or tie ins with sport?

Sandor Clegane

kippy wrote: »

I'll go back to my first point - if you gamble responsibly what odds to you if there are no gambling advertisements or tie ins with sport?

It's not so much as limiting advertising, it's what will come after that and then after that and so on and so fourth, that's just the start it wont stop at that.

Look where we are with alcohol, minimum pricing, it's a joke give them an inch and they'll take a mile.

kippy

Sandor Clegane wrote: »

It's not so much as limiting advertising, it's what will come after that and then after that and so on and so fourth, that's just the start it wont stop at that.

Look where we are with alcohol, minimum pricing, it's a joke give them an inch and they'll take a mile.

So nothing needs to be done then.

fryup

should Online Gambling Adverts be banned??....no online gambling itself should be banned, it is a parasite on modern day society...mark my words we'll have a wave of the population in huge depth in the coming years with the suicide rates increasing in tandem, our lawmakers have to intervene

The J Stands for Jay

fryup wrote: »

should Online Gambling Adverts be banned??....no online gambling itself should be banned, it is a parasite on modern day society...mark my words we'll have a wave of the population in huge depth in the coming years with the suicide rates increasing in tandem, our lawmakers have to intervene

Ban online gamblin, replace with bookies and casinos on every corner

fryup

at least high street bookies & casinos can be policed to a certain extent, but online it's the wild west...its depraved tbh

blackbox

Betting is optional. Adults are supposed to be able to decide for themselves.

What bugs me is that the government subsidises horse and greyhound racing.

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Motivator

blackbox wrote: »

Betting is optional. Adults are supposed to be able to decide for themselves.

What bugs me is that the government subsidises horse and greyhound racing.

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The government subsidise the industries, not the gambling side of it. Even though it’s a little dated now, have a little read of this article you might learn something.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20458568.html%3ftype=amp

fryup

yes it is optional, but for some when you're being bombarded night & day by temptation it's hard to resist, and in the long run it will ruin their lives

jobless

ban them.... sick of the sight of them... they are everywhere

kippy

blackbox wrote: »

Betting is optional. Adults are supposed to be able to decide for themselves.

What bugs me is that the government subsidises horse and greyhound racing.

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That's a very flawed outlook.

How does someone make the option to gamble? What influences them?

GBX

I used to gamble - a lot. I had a problem.

I was sucked in by it all: The joy of winning, the "banter", the feel good of winning and constantly chasing the money. Occasionally I won big but that was rare. I chased those big wins to the point I was betting silly bets on random sports and leagues thinking I had it figured out. I didnt. I lost regularly. I pissed away quite a bit of money - small amounts but over time I realised the small amounts equated to a lot. I fell down the rabbit hole of "oh another €10/20/50 and I'll win it back and be up again" but that cycle was never ending and I was in a bad place. I got very down. It broke up my relationship. It cost me a lot more than money. I came out the other side, I don't gamble anymore, I still like sports but that's it.

For anybody in a similar situation, its hard to avoid gambling. You can't turn a corner without seeing an ad, without seeing a betting shop - they are as bad as Starbucks popping up everywhere. Now with social media, it can be a constant barrage of ads - no matter how many time you click the "hide ad/I don't like this type of ad" button they keep coming at you. These companies have it all figured out on targeting people. They are leeches. I wasn't forced to make a bet by anybody and blame nobody else but me.
I feel sorry for people in similar situation who have no help - but there are help mechanisms there. Its something I avoided because I felt like a failure if I did ask. Seek out help, talk to those close to you.

There will be people who say its my own fault and that's fine, but we all have our faults. Some people drink, eat, run, read books - humans have an addictive personality but to be constantly preyed on by these companies its wrong.