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Husband stopped initiating

  • 12-06-2021 10:11AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi,

    I know I’m at fault here. After about a decade or so of me rejecting my husbands advances for sex he’s finally stopped initiating. I got what i asked for and I hate it. He would ask me for sex 2-3 times a week, we normally did it 1-2 times a month which was more than enough for me but never enough for him.

    Now, after 10 years of that routine he doesn’t even ask anymore. I know I’m at fault, i know years of rejection have hurt him and at this stage it’s probably easier for him not to ask than to be rejected. He even turned me down last time when i initiated. I’m literally watching my marriage fall apart in front of me and i honestly don’t see how i can fix it at this stage. Its all my fault and i feel so bad. Has anyone been here before?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    Hi op
    Can you speak to him tell him what you said here in your post. Listen to him. And basically see where things go after that. If you both want the marriage to work some communication is needed imo.
    Good luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    Ten years is a long stretch but it wasn’t completely devoid of intimacy. In the absence of, or lack of sex, some men will lose interest and turn to online porn or another sexual partner. You should let him know how you feel but you may not like what he has to say in response.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    You won't like this but I find your post extremely self indulgent. You pretty much rejected him for 10 years and are hurt he turns you down the one time you approach him.

    You didn't seem to care until it happened to you but were fine with treating him that way for years, chipping away at his self esteem and not caring in the least.

    You can't just turn it on and off whenever it suits you. What did you expect to happen? You took him for granted and only care now when it suits you. He didn't ruin your marriage you did.

    At best,he has tuned out completely. Alternatively he is getting it elsewhere and it would be difficult to blame him if he is.

    The time for communicating was years ago and you are more than in the back foot here. He probably has years of resentment build up, probably doesn't feel great and probably has a lot of question marks over you.

    The only glimmer of hope is that he hasn't left you yet but that may be for the kids or financial reasons. You need to see things from his point of view and start talking, possibly even relationship counselling.

    I wish you the best but you caused this and be prepared that he may no longer want to fix it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,815 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    What exactly do you want to fix? Or what would it look like when it was 'fixed'? To go back to when you he was looking for sex and you were rejecting him?

    If you actually wanted to have sex with him, you'd have been doing so for the last 10 years, more than once or twice a month. That is the fundamental issue here for him, but not for you.

    You see this as a problem that started a few weeks ago (or whenever he stopped initiating). He sees it as a problem that started a decade ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭Idle Passerby


    You say your watching your marriage fall apart but I suspect it fell apart a good while ago, you've only just noticed it now.

    I'm curious what has changed for you that you've developed a libido that was previously absent? Presumably you aren't just looking to go back to twice a month, knowing your husband was unhappy with that. If you are that seems very callous to ignore his unhappiness for a decade and then get put out when he finally throws in the towel.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭Dog day


    OP, to be quite blunt your viewpoint seems totally illogical to me.

    Do you infact miss rejecting him? The inherent power in being the person continually in control? Given you wanted/accepted having sex with him so rarely I’m struggling to see what it is you want now?

    A decade is a very long time to sexually reject someone & should you try to make amends now be prepared for it to be either a long road ahead or for him not to want to even try. To be blunt you don’t deserve an easy outcome here.

    Your post smacks of a total lack of depth of thought as to how damaged your husband may be from this. It’s rare I’m this harsh here but I have little to no sympathy for you. Try talking directly to him but not before really analysing what you actually want. Should you temporarily start having more sex but then revert to rejecting him again you’re likely to cause him even more hurt.


  • Site Banned Posts: 339 ✭✭guy2231


    After all that rejection he probably turned to Escort Ireland.ie website like so many married men do and if you check the website and see how cheap and good looking the girls are on there you will find it easy to see why he has no interest in you anymore sexually.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'd say listen to the first reply to your post.

    Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Screwthebeast


    You won't like this but I find your post extremely self indulgent. You pretty much rejected him for 10 years and are hurt he turns you down the one time you approach him.

    You didn't seem to care until it happened to you but were fine with treating him that way for years, chipping away at his self esteem and not caring in the least.

    You can't just turn it on and off whenever it suits you. What did you expect to happen? You took him for granted and only care now when it suits you. He didn't ruin your marriage you did.

    At best,he has tuned out completely. Alternatively he is getting it elsewhere and it would be difficult to blame him if he is.

    The time for communicating was years ago and you are more than in the back foot here. He probably has years of resentment build up, probably doesn't feel great and probably has a lot of question marks over you.

    The only glimmer of hope is that he hasn't left you yet but that may be for the kids or financial reasons. You need to see things from his point of view and start talking, possibly even relationship counselling.

    I wish you the best but you caused this and be prepared that he may no longer want to fix it.

    This


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭FromADistance


    Missmiss1 wrote: »
    Hi,

    I know I’m at fault here. After about a decade or so of me rejecting my husbands advances for sex he’s finally stopped initiating. I got what i asked for and I hate it. He would ask me for sex 2-3 times a week, we normally did it 1-2 times a month which was more than enough for me but never enough for him.

    Now, after 10 years of that routine he doesn’t even ask anymore. I know I’m at fault, i know years of rejection have hurt him and at this stage it’s probably easier for him not to ask than to be rejected. He even turned me down last time when i initiated. I’m literally watching my marriage fall apart in front of me and i honestly don’t see how i can fix it at this stage. Its all my fault and i feel so bad. Has anyone been here before?

    What are you looking for people to tell you? You acknowledge your behaviour but yet you're looking for a 'view'. You know exactly what you need to do... talk to your husband... and hope he's tolerant to your intolerance over the last 10 years.


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  • Posts: 211 [Deleted User]


    Ten years of quotidian humiliation of your husband. Followed by the "poor me" here. All those days and nights humiliating that man. The hours, weeks, months and years he has lain next to you feeling small and lonely. Afraid to touch, but craving the touch of the woman he loved. Craving softness, kindness, touch. But withering. Isolated. Unloved. On the verge, so many times, of waking you up as he lay there after another rejection to say "It's over; I'm leaving". But he had to learn to live with the humiliation usually due to awareness of the financial and legal repercussions in our sexist legal system.

    So he stayed, and died some more. And the years passed. And the pain created a deep well of sadness in his being, in his marrow. That he had to learn to live with, and carry that loneliness around with him. The lightness of the man in love was no more. Each rejection built that wall higher. It was all, above all else, so, so unnecessary.

    And then amid the indignity and humiliation and despair he finally had to save himself from drowning in that abusive relationship (and let's call it what it is). In that necessity he found out how to liberate himself from wanting you. That moment when you get your old spring in your step back and decide to free yourself. You remember your value, your positives, your worth. You remember where you were that moment, the weather was sunnier and you were feeling physically and mentally alive like you hadn't felt in years when you made that decision. To be free again. To raise your head high in the world again. To be free.

    Far, far too many people like the op treating their partners like this. For years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,564 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    You won't like this but I find your post extremely self indulgent. You pretty much rejected him for 10 years and are hurt he turns you down the one time you approach him.

    You didn't seem to care until it happened to you but were fine with treating him that way for years, chipping away at his self esteem and not caring in the least.

    You can't just turn it on and off whenever it suits you. What did you expect to happen? You took him for granted and only care now when it suits you. He didn't ruin your marriage you did.

    At best,he has tuned out completely. Alternatively he is getting it elsewhere and it would be difficult to blame him if he is.

    The time for communicating was years ago and you are more than in the back foot here. He probably has years of resentment build up, probably doesn't feel great and probably has a lot of question marks over you.

    The only glimmer of hope is that he hasn't left you yet but that may be for the kids or financial reasons. You need to see things from his point of view and start talking, possibly even relationship counselling.

    I wish you the best but you caused this and be prepared that he may no longer want to fix it.


    This exactly.

    I’ve been there , packed my bags and left.

    Seriously you were hurt after 1 rejection and you just said you rejected him for a decade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    were you as callous and dismissive of him during the day as well as in the privacy of your bed at night OP? I cannot understand what you hope to recover now - ten years after your rejection and intimate cruelty started. How could you be so cruel and never inna decade think to correct or discuss it. Was it power and control for you? Having crushed him completely you now want to toy with him and have him pleasure you. I cannot comprehend your level of casual cruelty or selfishness. I’d be surprised if talk can fix the damage you have done at this stage. Do you just want what you cannot have now or is it about the chase? TBH you sound like you couldn’t care less about him - just your bi-monthy service and wanting to be desired.

    If you can be honest I’d have a long hard look at your motivations for suddenly wanting him now. He sounds irrelevant to you other than as a provider or function to make you feel good about yourself. I think its therapy you need and not to save your marriage, but to save your self. If I was speaking to him I’d be saying to run & keep running. Why would you do that to someone you say you love & cherish? What you did to him was just inhumane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,036 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Wow the posts are really hard on OP. Unfairly so imo. People aren’t obliged to have sex every time their partner feels like it which is the undercurrent on here sometimes. They still were intimate a couple of times a month.

    OP you’re just going to have to talk openly with him. Maybe schedule it in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Dog day wrote: »
    OP, to be quite blunt your viewpoint seems totally illogical to me.

    Do you infact miss rejecting him? The inherent power in being the person continually in control? Given you wanted/accepted having sex with him so rarely I’m struggling to see what it is you want now?

    A decade is a very long time to sexually reject someone & should you try to make amends now be prepared for it to be either a long road ahead or for him not to want to even try. To be blunt you don’t deserve an easy outcome here.

    Your post smacks of a total lack of depth of thought as to how damaged your husband may be from this. It’s rare I’m this harsh here but I have little to no sympathy for you. Try talking directly to him but not before really analysing what you actually want. Should you temporarily start having more sex but then revert to rejecting him again you’re likely to cause him even more hurt.

    Nail on the head!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,036 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Nail on the head!!

    Yes she should have jumped on him every time he looked at her sideways no matter what else might be going on in their lives.

    This thread is crazy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    fits wrote: »
    Yes she should have jumped on him every time he looked at her sideways no matter what else might be going on in their lives.

    This thread is crazy!

    That has NOTHING to do with the post I agreed with. Don’t know where you’re pulling that from.

    I think she misses rejecting him and can’t handle it tbh. Can’t handle not being in control. After 10 years she all of a sudden gets her sex drive back, coincidentally at the same time hubby stops wanting her. Yeahhhh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,036 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    That has NOTHING to do with the post I agreed with. Don’t know where you’re pulling that from.

    The post you agreed with says she rejected her husband sexually for a decade - she didn’t. They were still intimate every month. She is not obliged to match his libido either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    fits wrote: »
    The post you agreed with says she rejected her husband sexually for a decade - she didn’t. They were still intimate every month. She is not obliged to match his libido either.

    If he tried it on 2-3 times a week, and probably reluctantly, let’s say 12-15 times a month, and she rejected him 10-12 times a month, that’s a lot of rejection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,036 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    If he tried it on 2-3 times a week, and probably reluctantly, let’s say 12-15 times a month, and she rejected him 10-12 times a month, that’s a lot of rejection.

    Poor little pet.

    There’s few enough couples having sex 3-4 times a week after ten years. Much as the men of boards.Ie may not like to hear it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    fits wrote: »
    Poor little pet.

    There’s few enough couples having sex 3-4 times a week after ten years. Much as the men of boards.Ie may not like to hear it.

    Well, regardless of what you may think, the op herself is admitting fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Gary kk


    fits wrote: »
    Poor little pet.

    There’s few enough couples having sex 3-4 times a week after ten years. Much as the men of boards.Ie may not like to hear it.

    Poor little pet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,036 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Gary kk wrote: »
    Poor little pet?

    That’s more a response to the attitudes in this thread than anything else tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    fits wrote: »
    Poor little pet.

    There’s few enough couples having sex 3-4 times a week after ten years. Much as the men of boards.Ie may not like to hear it.

    But it's not about 'after' ten years. The OP said this was the case from the start of the marriage basically.

    Obviously she wasn't ready for the commitment of marriage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,036 ✭✭✭✭fits


    kowloonkev wrote: »
    But it's not about 'after' ten years. The OP said this was the case from the start of the marriage basically.

    Obviously she wasn't ready for the commitment of marriage.

    The commitment of marriage is not obligation to have sex every time the other partner feels like it. She has needs too. His needs are not the default.

    I wonder about this place sometimes.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    OP you need to have a hard conversation with your husband.That's the starting point.Ask him is this something he wants to save.Own up to the fact that maybe you should have tried a bit harder and that you now realise how it feels.And take it from there.There will hopefully be a middle ground you can agree on.
    Do you have kids?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,975 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    fits wrote: »
    The post you agreed with says she rejected her husband sexually for a decade - she didn’t. They were still intimate every month. She is not obliged to match his libido either.

    But she did reject him, several times a week. Maybe she should have told him that she couldn't match his libido and that 1-2 times a month was enough for her.

    It seems in the op that she didn't really care about rejection until it affected her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,036 ✭✭✭✭fits


    But she did reject him, several times a week. Maybe she should have told him that she couldn't match his libido and that 1-2 times a month was enough for her.

    .


    Well yes, communication is important and some sort of compromise.

    I’m taking view of OP that she’s taking excess blame on herself as many women do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭Dog day


    fits wrote: »
    Yes she should have jumped on him every time he looked at her sideways no matter what else might be going on in their lives.

    This thread is crazy!

    That’s an incredibly simplistic view of the point I was making. The OP herself knows she has treated her husband poorly but in my opinion shows a lack of understanding as to just how badly affected he may be. My point was to get her to really analyse the reasons why she’s now had some change of heart, my take on this is that she’s not being entirely sincere & to acknowledge the hurt she’s likely caused her husband.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,975 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    fits wrote: »
    Well yes, communication is important and some sort of compromise.

    I’m taking view of OP that she’s taking excess blame on herself as many women do.

    Honestly, your point seems to be that they should only have had sex when it suited her, that she isn't responsible for matching his libido.

    But they are in a marriage and she should care about his needs and feelings. She knew something was wrong but it's only now that she's on the wrong side of it that she's interested in fixing it.


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