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Canada Truck Attack

  • 11-06-2021 12:14am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,860 ✭✭✭✭


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57404388.amp

    Madiha Salman, 44
    Salman Afzaal, 46
    Yumna Afzaal (their daughter), 15
    Mr Afzaal's mother, 74

    They are survived by the son, 9.

    They were murdered by a 20 year old Islamophobic white supremacist in London, Ontario.

    Didn't see a thread about this horrific attack. If the perpetrator was Muslim rather than the victims, you can be sure the usual cohort here would have been falling over themselves in the rush to post their "thoughts."

    May the victims rest in peace.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57404388.amp

    Madiha Salman, 44
    Salman Afzaal, 46
    Yumna Afzaal (their daughter), 15
    Mr Afzaal's mother, 74

    They are survived by the son, 9.

    They were murdered by a 20 year old Islamophobic white supremacist in London, Ontario.

    Didn't see a thread about this horrific attack. If the perpetrator was Muslim rather than the victims, you can be sure the usual cohort here would have been falling over themselves in the rush to post their "thoughts."

    May the victims rest in peace.

    Seems like you're in the mood for a row.

    Anyway, poor family, poor boy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,860 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Seems like you're in the mood for a row.

    Nope, just stating the obvious. And thought the tragedy was worth acknowledging.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Tidyboii


    Terrible thing to happen. If proven it was race based I'd imagine a domestic terrorist attack could be added to the charge sheet?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    It's not really surprising though when Islamic savages are constantly committing terror atrocities in the West that a white person is going to do the same thing in retaliation. Yes it's awful and shouldn't happen but it's a direct result of liberal politicians immigration policies which are bad for both the immigrants and the non immigrant population.

    You won't see too many terror attacks in Japan, Poland or Hungary these days. Because these countries are homogenous meaning there are not racial tensions amongst the population and there is a high level of social cohesion.

    Mod - Banned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Social cohesion in Hungary.


    You love to see the absolutely ignorance. Beautiful sight to see


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Tidyboii


    GT89 wrote: »
    It's not really surprising though when Islamic savages are constantly committing terror atrocities in the West that a white person is going to do the same thing in retaliation. Yes it's awful and shouldn't happen but it's a direct result of liberal politicians immigration policies which are bad for both the immigrants and the non immigrant population.

    You won't see too many terror attacks in Japan, Poland or Hungary these days. Because these countries are homogenous meaning there are not racial tensions amongst the population and there is a high level of social cohesion.

    https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/poland/terrorism
    There must be some kind of threat if UK government have a website section for 1 of those you listed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,860 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    GT89 wrote: »
    It's not really surprising though when Islamic savages are constantly committing terror atrocities in the West that a white person is going to do the same thing in retaliation. Yes it's awful and shouldn't happen but it's a direct result of liberal politicians immigration policies which are bad for both the immigrants and the non immigrant population.

    That didn't take long. Thanks for proving my point.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Tidyboii wrote: »
    https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/poland/terrorism
    There must be some kind of threat if UK government have a website section for 1 of those you listed

    Okay that appears to be a generic warning placed on almost all European countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Tidyboii


    GT89 wrote: »
    Okay that appears to be a generic warning placed on almost all European countries.

    Still doesn't cover up the warning/info is there to be advised of


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    GT89 wrote: »
    It's not really surprising though when Islamic savages are constantly committing terror atrocities in the West that a white person is going to do the same thing in retaliation. Yes it's awful and shouldn't happen but it's a direct result of liberal politicians immigration policies which are bad for both the immigrants and the non immigrant population.

    You won't see too many terror attacks in Japan, Poland or Hungary these days. Because these countries are homogenous meaning there are not racial tensions amongst the population and there is a high level of social cohesion.

    So next time there is an attack in the West it will be OK to post something similar?
    It's not really surprising though when Christian savages are constantly committing terror atrocities in the middle east that an islamic (brown? Does colour matter?) person is going to do the same thing in retaliation. Yes it's awful and shouldn't happen but it's a direct result of western foreign policies which are bad


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,876 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    GT89 wrote: »
    It's not really surprising though when Islamic savages are constantly committing terror atrocities in the West that a white person is going to do the same thing in retaliation. Yes it's awful and shouldn't happen but it's a direct result of liberal politicians immigration policies which are bad for both the immigrants and the non immigrant population.

    You won't see too many terror attacks in Japan, Poland or Hungary these days. Because these countries are homogenous meaning there are not racial tensions amongst the population and there is a high level of social cohesion.

    You need to beef up on whats going on in these countries:
    social cohesion my a$$, they are the new China

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,892 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    GT89 wrote: »
    It's not really surprising though when Islamic savages are constantly committing terror atrocities in the West that a white person is going to do the same thing in retaliation. Yes it's awful and shouldn't happen but it's a direct result of liberal politicians immigration policies which are bad for both the immigrants and the non immigrant population.

    You won't see too many terror attacks in Japan, Poland or Hungary these days. Because these countries are homogenous meaning there are not racial tensions amongst the population and there is a high level of social cohesion.

    Let's agree that ethnic cleansing isn't an option*. What's your solution for non ethnically homogenous countries?


    I hope you don't see it as an option

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Canada is completely built on immigration no point in comparing it to Poland or Japan. Funally enough it wasnt Islamic savages responsible for 100s of dead native Canadian children that was in the news recently, it was our good old Catholic brethern.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,093 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    Canada is completely built on immigration no point in comparing it to Poland or Japan. Funally enough it wasnt Islamic savages responsible for 100s of dead native Canadian children that was in the news recently, it was our good old Catholic brethern.

    It's even more ironic considering that it was a bunch of (white Christian) immigrants who were responsible for their deaths. I bet that somehow doesn't count, though.

    Uncivil to the President (24 hour forum ban)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    Canada is completely built on immigration no point in comparing it to Poland or Japan. Funally enough it wasnt Islamic savages responsible for 100s of dead native Canadian children that was in the news recently, it was our good old Catholic brethern.

    Truly horrible incident. Terrible to see an entire family wiped out like that.

    Just for once, maybe posters on both sides of the culture wars could agree not lean into their usual ideologies, whether that’s anti-immigration, anti-Catholicism or whatever.

    Chances of that happening with previous posts... nil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    GT89 wrote: »
    It's not really surprising though when Islamic savages are constantly committing terror atrocities in the West that a white person is going to do the same thing in retaliation. Yes it's awful and shouldn't happen but it's a direct result of liberal politicians immigration policies which are bad for both the immigrants and the non immigrant population.

    You won't see too many terror attacks in Japan, Poland or Hungary these days. Because these countries are homogenous meaning there are not racial tensions amongst the population and there is a high level of social cohesion.

    It's not really surprising though when Western government savages are constantly committing illegal invasions in the Middle East in the name of democracy that a person from there who may have lost their family, their home etc is going to retaliate. Yes it's awful and shouldn't happen but it's a direct result of right wing politicial hawks foreign policies, you reap what you sow!

    As for no racial tension in Poland, Hungary etc…pull your head out of The Telegraphs hole!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    GT89 wrote: »
    It's not really surprising though when Islamic savages are constantly committing terror atrocities in the West that a white person is going to do the same thing in retaliation. Yes it's awful and shouldn't happen but it's a direct result of liberal politicians immigration policies which are bad for both the immigrants and the non immigrant population.

    You won't see too many terror attacks in Japan, Poland or Hungary these days. Because these countries are homogenous meaning there are not racial tensions amongst the population and there is a high level of social cohesion.

    Only 91 minutes into the day and we might have a winner for the most ignorant post of the day.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,380 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    GT89 take a little break from the forum, and do not post in this thread again when you get back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    volchitsa wrote: »
    It's even more ironic considering that it was a bunch of (white Christian) immigrants who were responsible for their deaths. I bet that somehow doesn't count, though.

    I bet a lot of them had Irish names too if the RC chuch was involved.
    My point is we're all equally horrible, so that who said Islamic savages in an earlier post is just being a dick.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,892 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Canada is completely built on immigration no point in comparing it to Poland or Japan. Funally enough it wasnt Islamic savages responsible for 100s of dead native Canadian children that was in the news recently, it was our good old Catholic brethern.

    I would like to thanks this post more than once.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    Rest in Peace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭screamer


    Very sad, a family wiped out and a little boy left orphaned and traumatised I’m sure. No excuse for it, just a horrible excuse for a human being exacting some kind of misplaced justice or vengeance.

    I don’t think it’s less horrific due to the victims religion or ethnicity, I think this stuff has become so common, everyone is just becoming indifferent to it. Crazy as that sounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    RIP to the victims.
    We'll see what the investigation brings up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,823 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Canada is completely built on immigration no point in comparing it to Poland or Japan. Funally enough it wasnt Islamic savages responsible for 100s of dead native Canadian children that was in the news recently, it was our good old Catholic brethern.




    So, given that you appear to think that that is relevant, what are you saying - that it is grand for a "native person" to kill a few immigrants now because some then relatively recent immigrants (in terms of generations) buried ethnically indigenous children in the past?


    That is a bit messed up if you ask me!



    The person responsible for this should be locked up for life immediately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    White supremacist terror attacks do not receive the same coverage, when other groups commit violence. It results in a skewed view of the world, when violence is downplayed when white supremacists commit it.

    Also, conservatives in Canada blocked a condemnation of Islamophobia right after the attack:

    Liberal leader outraged after Ford government blocks motion to condemn Islamophobia


    This is typical of conservatives these days. They fan the flames and pretend to be innocent of incitement, when they refuse to condemn this type of hatred.

    Remember one of the reasons a lot of social media can't get rid of white supremacists, is that it would result in the removal of mainstream conservatives, who are basically indistinguishable from white supremacists to the algorithm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,823 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Things that are perceived to be more of a threat to you and those close to you will get more coverage. It's not a conspiracy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    So, given that you appear to think that that is relevant, what are you saying - that it is grand for a "native person" to kill a few immigrants now because some then relatively recent immigrants (in terms of generations) buried ethnically indigenous children in the past?


    That is a bit messed up if you ask me!



    The person responsible for this should be locked up for life immediately.

    zero clue what you're on about


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,892 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Things that are perceived to be more of a threat to you and those close to you will get more coverage. It's not a conspiracy.

    It’s not a conspiracy, that would imply it’s hidden somehow when it’s right out in the open.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,731 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    So, given that you appear to think that that is relevant, what are you saying - that it is grand for a "native person" to kill a few immigrants now because some then relatively recent immigrants (in terms of generations) buried ethnically indigenous children in the past?


    That is a bit messed up if you ask me!
    Jaysus that's some bullsh!t strawman.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,823 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    osarusan wrote: »
    Jaysus that's some bullsh!t strawman.




    I know. That is why I pulled him up on it.




    Thread is about a family that was murdered recently. I have no idea why other poster is trying to drag it off topic and muddy the waters with that wholly irrelevant strawman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,464 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Rip to the family but clearly a loner mentally ill individual


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    Poor kid left without his parents and sister.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,892 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Rip to the family but clearly a loner mentally ill individual

    I wonder if he was radicalised online, like a lot of terrorists.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,860 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    clearly a loner mentally ill individual

    Clearly a white supremacist terrorist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    Rip to the family but clearly a loner mentally ill individual

    Like the lone wolf attacks by Muslims that are labelled terrorism? Was Usman Khan a mentally ill individual
    or a terrorist when he killed people on London Bridge?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Just to further my point, when it comes to white supremacist terror being downplayed:
    Belgian manhunt for armed soldier who threatened virologist



    Imagine if he belonged to any other group, it would be international news, with breathless updates every few minutes, but he is a white supremacist terrorists, so the coverage is far more muted.

    White supremacist terror is downplayed to a frightening degree, and that needs to change.

    Oh and they still haven't found that soldier, here is an update from today:
    Police find ammunition stash in hunt for far-right Belgian soldier


    We would have a 200 page thread on here, if it was any other group.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,464 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Seem the usual suspects get triggered very easily on here!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,188 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    GT89 wrote: »
    It's not really surprising though when Islamic savages are constantly committing terror atrocities in the West that a white person is going to do the same thing in retaliation. Yes it's awful and shouldn't happen but it's a direct result of liberal politicians immigration policies which are bad for both the immigrants and the non immigrant population.

    You won't see too many terror attacks in Japan, Poland or Hungary these days. Because these countries are homogenous meaning there are not racial tensions amongst the population and there is a high level of social cohesion.

    Mod - Banned

    NO.

    I am anti unfethered immigration and bogus ayslum seekers/refugees and the so called multi cultural dreamland, but that in no way means I think that gives any fooker the right to go mow down innocent people, no matter who they are or where they are from.

    What you are saying is just the other side of the coin where muslim immigrants or children of muslim immigrants attack their fellow non mulsim citizens because of something that is done to someone somewhere in the Middle East by maybe the government of the country or some government in the West.

    It is all bullshyte used by loons as excuses for killing.

    Did this family attack this loons family or any other person?

    What makes a 20 year old go out and do this shyte.

    And before we get all posters on about the right wing media and all that shyte, we have got 20 years old on the other side thinking along the same lines.

    Why are Western societies failing like this?

    And FFS can we leave out the catholic church, all the other go to.s that end up in these threads.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,188 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Brian? wrote: »
    And a mono cultural society. I would place a pretty heavy wager that for every terrorist attack you can list in Europe/North America perpetrated by Muslims I can find 2 carried out in Muslim countries by Muslims and one by white supremacists.

    I can also tickle your fancy with Japanese terrorist attack if you want.

    Are you keeping score ?

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Seem the usual suspects get triggered very easily on here!

    It does appear that ye are alright


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Shebean


    Rip to the family but clearly a loner mentally ill individual

    Why 'clearly'?
    He fits the bill so far of a radicalised domestic terrorist.
    They are looking to see was he associated with any groups.
    He was wearing body armour with a swastika on the front and rear.


    We can call every such attack a mentally ill loner. We tend to keep that description for any white person whereas if it's a Muslim people are quick to condemn the entire group along with immigrants. That's racism of course. Not calling you that, just pointing out that's how these things roll. Not strange that it took three or four days for this story to become of note.
    The calls for patience and caution on labelling him an extremist or terrorist are expected too. That's your white privilege right there.


    Three generations of one family out for a walk. The wife, a Phd candidate, helped develop a process of removing pollution from soil and beaches, which is currently in use.
    The family very well liked. Such a wasteful shame.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,892 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    jmayo wrote: »
    Are you keeping score ?

    No, otherwise I would have posted the score.

    I said it was a wager

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,799 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Troll Nuked, as you were folks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Rip to the family but clearly a loner mentally ill individual
    ClJD4cdUoAA189f.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,464 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    ClJD4cdUoAA189f.jpg
    Oohh I'm sorry poor Billy you seem upset :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    ClJD4cdUoAA189f.jpg

    Yeah, certain posters have history of defending terror attacks when it's done by the paler people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


      Oohh I'm sorry poor Billy you seem upset :)
      Cos I posted a picture?


    1. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,464 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


      Yeah, certain posters have history of defending terror attacks when it's done by the paler people.

      Much like some posters on here will blame everything else bar the religion of peace followers when they shout a bit of the old Alah Akbar as they cut the head off an old priest or blow up young children at concerts or murder those who dare to make a cartoon of some sky fairy! How stunning and brave are "certain posters" on here!


    2. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Shebean


      Much like some posters on here will blame everything else bar the religion of peace followers when they shout a bit of the old Alah Akbar as they cut the head off an old priest or blow up young children at concerts or murder those who dare to make a cartoon of some sky fairy! How stunning and brave are "certain posters" on here!

      So we all agree it's a ****ty attitude to have?


    3. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


      Much like some posters on here will blame everything else bar the religion of peace followers when they shout a bit of the old Alah Akbar as they cut the head off an old priest or blow up young children at concerts or murder those who dare to make a cartoon of some sky fairy! How stunning and brave are "certain posters" on here!
      You ok m8?

      You seem a bit upset 😥


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