Areas to avoid Dublin 15

propertyseeker

Good afternoon,

Me and my partner are planning to buy family home in Dublin 15, we are not from Ireland.

We are looking in Dublin 15 with a budget of 300-350k. We do not know area too well.
My work buddy is from the area and has given us a list of the following areas to avoid:

Most estates near the shopping center
Blakestown
Hartstown/Huntstown
Fortlawn/Sheepmore
Pinebrook
Whitestown
Corduff
Tyrrelstown

They also advised against most of Clonsilla and Ongar and recommended we try stretch budget to over 400k to purchase house in Castleknock.

Are they correct with this advice? thanks

degsie

Take a virtual tour with Google maps. Anywhere there are caravans, housed festooned with Irish flags and/or security cameras, horses in the front gardens, just walk away 😲.

Sweet.Science

Hartstown and Huntstown are fine so don't know why it would be one to avoid . Especially as they would be near the upper end of your budget

Aisling Heights , Brookhaven and Edgewood Lawn also fine but maybe outside of your budget in the current climate

ongarite

As above, Hartstown & Huntstown, Blakestown are old D15, well settled with mix of generations living there.
Houses are late 70s/80s build so will need modernisation if not done already.
No more issues in these areas than in any other part of D15 IMO.

Clonsilla is good area too with easy access to train, shopping centre & other amenities

Your budget is low even for D15, not going to be much in this market as prices are right now.

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-29-delhurst-avenue-ongar-park-ongar-dublin-15/3270827
This part of Ongar is good, these house style are excellent but place needs cleaning up.

propertyseeker

ongarite wrote: »

As above, Hartstown & Huntstown, Blakestown are old D15, well settled with mix of generations living there.
Houses are late 70s/80s build so will need modernisation if not done already.
No more issues in these areas than in any other part of D15 IMO.

Clonsilla is good area too with easy access to train, shopping centre & other amenities

Your budget is low even for D15, not going to be much in this market as prices are right now.


This part of Ongar is good, these house style are excellent but place needs cleaning up.

Ok they said high social issues, i googled some of areas and mainly shootings even on the same road. We also hear same about Ongar but not shootings, just trouble with gangs and race issues.

This is max budget, we cannot borrow more for now. We thought it would find us a good place as people say D15 cheaper than most of Dublin.

We are thinking of saving more for Castleknock area but will take time that we might not have (age 37).

ibrahimovic

propertyseeker wrote: »

Good afternoon,

Me and my partner are planning to buy family home in Dublin 15, we are not from Ireland.

We are looking in Dublin 15 with a budget of 300-350k. We do not know area too well.
My work buddy is from the area and has given us a list of the following areas to avoid:

Most estates near the shopping center
Blakestown
Hartstown/Huntstown
Fortlawn/Sheepmore
Pinebrook
Whitestown
Corduff
Tyrrelstown

They also advised against most of Clonsilla and Ongar and recommended we try stretch budget to over 400k to purchase house in Castleknock.

Are they correct with this advice? thanks

You'll fit in great, as there are no Irish in Dublin 15 xxx

LeBash

Ashtown. It's on the outskirt of D15 but nice area, few shops, close to city, train, bus, luas not a million miles away. Price wise, your close to a few nice places in the area.

propertyseeker

LeBash wrote: »

Ashtown. It's on the outskirt of D15 but nice area, few shops, close to city, train, bus, luas not a million miles away. Price wise, your close to a few nice places in the area.

Thanks, we will avoid above areas and check this out. We might stay away from D15, very expensive and doesn't look like great location and high crime.

bilbot79

ibrahimovic wrote: »

You'll fit in great, as there are no Irish in Dublin 15 xxx

?

propertyseeker

ibrahimovic wrote: »

You'll fit in great, as there are no Irish in Dublin 15 xxx

What?

propertyseeker

propertyseeker wrote: »

i googled some of areas and mainly shootings even on the same road. We also hear same about Ongar but not shootings, just trouble with gangs and race issues.

This is max budget, we cannot borrow more for now. We thought it would find us a good place as people say D15 cheaper than most of Dublin.

Unfortunately that's the reason D15 is cheaper than most of Dublin.

As you know, the housing market is under a lot of strain at the moment, loads of people trying to buy. There are no hidden gems, lucky finds, or bargains. Sellers know exactly how much their property is worth. If something seems cheaper than the surrounding areas, it's usually because there are issues that are keeping the price down.

I'm sorry to be so negative, but you need to be very skeptical about anything that seems unusually affordable.

Hamachi

propertyseeker wrote: »

Ok they said high social issues, i googled some of areas and mainly shootings even on the same road. We also hear same about Ongar but not shootings, just trouble with gangs and race issues.

I live in Ongar. It’s ok. Not terrible, but certainly not desirable. I have two young kids who are pre-school age. We’ll be leaving this area within the next year. I’d probably stay here if we didn’t have kids, but we don’t want to bring them up here.

Ongar is probably the most multicultural place in Ireland. I would guess that the local population is about 50% Irish, 20% Eastern European, 15% African, and 15% Asian, mostly from the Indian sub-continent. You might enjoy that ethnic mix. Some do; some don’t. I haven’t seen too much ethnic tension, but the different groups mostly stick to themselves.

Overall, it’s ok, not terrible, but there are far nicer places to live.

Samuel T. Cogley

Take a look at some of the less salubrious areas of D5 also. Most are very settled and you have the DART nearby.

James 007

Here are a few but others may wish to comment on them. The two I would prefer are the last two. Others advise further;)

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-17-collis-court-jugback-lane-swords-co-dublin/3264276

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/end-of-terrace-house-20-longstone-park-portrane-co-dublin/3261107

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-108-woodbine-road-raheny-dublin-5/3271368

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/semi-detached-house-33-templeview-copse-clarehall-dublin-13/3267794

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-14-russell-avenue-drumcondra-dublin-3/3231485

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/semi-detached-house-saint-anthony-124-larkhill-road-santry-dublin-9/3220727

Sweet.Science

James 007 wrote: »

Here are a few but others may wish to comment on them. The two I would prefer are the last two. Others advise further;)

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-17-collis-court-jugback-lane-swords-co-dublin/3264276

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/end-of-terrace-house-20-longstone-park-portrane-co-dublin/3261107

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-108-woodbine-road-raheny-dublin-5/3271368

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/semi-detached-house-33-templeview-copse-clarehall-dublin-13/3267794

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-14-russell-avenue-drumcondra-dublin-3/3231485

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/semi-detached-house-saint-anthony-124-larkhill-road-santry-dublin-9/3220727

No chance the one in clarehall will go for that price . 380k at the least . The one on woodbine Rd has been sale agreed 3 times in 12 months so there must be some sort of issue

Caranica

propertyseeker wrote: »

Thanks, we will avoid above areas and check this out. We might stay away from D15, very expensive and doesn't look like great location and high crime.

I've lived in D15 for 17 years and the only crime I've encountered was a car break in about 15 years ago. So please don't tar the whole area with labels like you have.

FromADistance

propertyseeker wrote: »

Good afternoon,

Me and my partner are planning to buy family home in Dublin 15, we are not from Ireland.

We are looking in Dublin 15 with a budget of 300-350k. We do not know area too well.
My work buddy is from the area and has given us a list of the following areas to avoid:

Most estates near the shopping center
Blakestown
Hartstown/Huntstown
Fortlawn/Sheepmore
Pinebrook
Whitestown
Corduff
Tyrrelstown

They also advised against most of Clonsilla and Ongar and recommended we try stretch budget to over 400k to purchase house in Castleknock.

Are they correct with this advice? thanks

I'm afraid you won't find much in D15 within that price frame at the moment - 61 3 bed houses. Realistically the better areas within your budget would be Clonee & Clonsilla. I wouldn't completely rule out Tyrrelstown, it had some issues a number of years ago but it has quietened down since, is relatively ok and has an active community council keeping run of the place. Most parts of Huntstown / Hartstown are also fine. I wouldn't be mad about Ongar, but that's my own opinion.

propertyseeker

Caranica wrote: »

I've lived in D15 for 17 years and the only crime I've encountered was a car break in about 15 years ago. So please don't tar the whole area with labels like you have.

My only source of information on area is from work buddy who lived there 40 years and news reports, both don't paint those areas in good light. That is why i look for advice

Samuel T. Cogley

TBH anywhere you're getting within your budget is likely to have some history. The trick is to get an area which has settled. Not trying to be snobby, I had the exact same issue.

propertyseeker

propertyseeker wrote: »

My only source of information on area is from work buddy who lived there 40 years and news reports, both don't paint those areas in good light. That is why i look for advice

Do you have to buy a house or would you be happy with an apartment?
Dublin 15 is a very big area and I wouldn't judge the entire area on a few incidents.
Is it just price that brings you to Dublin 15? Does commute matter?

5uspect

Carpenterstown is grand, it’s quiet but there isn’t too much in terms of local amenities. Not too far to walk to Blanchardstown SC however. Public transport links are okay too.

Lived in Riverwood for about seven years without any problems. People like to pretend it’s Castleknock tho so prices might be inflated.

Caranica

propertyseeker wrote: »

My only source of information on area is from work buddy who lived there 40 years and news reports, both don't paint those areas in good light. That is why i look for advice

Dublin 15 is a vast area and has a population bigger than Galway city. It's not "an area" it's many many many areas. All are not the same.

Hamachi

propertyseeker wrote: »

My only source of information on area is from work buddy who lived there 40 years and news reports, both don't paint those areas in good light. That is why i look for advice

You get what you pay for. Your budget is very low for Dublin. D15 is probably the least desirable post code in the city for several reasons including location, demographics, and some social problems, which are somewhat exaggerated by the media.

One area to look at is Littlepace. It’s almost adjacent to Ongar, but seems significantly nicer. It’s about 15 years old, mostly settled, and has avoided the social problems reported in Ongar. Worth a look.

niniboots

propertyseeker wrote: »

My only source of information on area is from work buddy who lived there 40 years and news reports, both don't paint those areas in good light. That is why i look for advice

Clonsilla is a large area in Dublin 15, the Post code stretches from border old clonsilla village which is fine area, all the way up to coolmine (also well established area), which borders with carpenterstown. Lohunda, Lambourn, Castleford, even mount symon up to edge of Ongar are actually lovely well settled estates. Porterstown old part beautiful, Carpenterstown which is marketed as castleknock but actually isn't, stretched from phoenix Park to boundary of Clonsilla village, all those areas are fine places to live. Your budget won't get you much in castleknock, prob a 1 bed (real castleknock) but Carpenterstown you could get something in that range smaller 3 bed near train station or collegefort is decent location and lovely area but parking in estate is dire.

Portersgate (as opposed to porterstown) is also fine.

propertyseeker

Hamachi wrote: »

You get what you pay for. Your budget is very low for Dublin. D15 is probably the least desirable post code in the city for several reasons including location, demographics, and some social problems, which are somewhat exaggerated by the media.

One area to look at is Littlepace. It’s almost adjacent to Ongar, but seems significantly nicer. It’s about 15 years old, mostly settled, and has avoided the social problems reported in Ongar. Worth a look.

We think 350,000 should not be considered low when average wage is 50,000.

We saw that area but work buddy said same issues as other bad areas.
We might save more for nicer location

propertyseeker

niniboots wrote: »

Clonsilla is a large area in Dublin 15, the Post code stretches from border old clonsilla village which is fine area, all the way up to coolmine (also well established area), which borders with carpenterstown. Lohunda, Lambourn, Castleford, even mount symon up to edge of Ongar are actually lovely well settled estates. Porterstown old part beautiful, Carpenterstown which is marketed as castleknock but actually isn't, stretched from phoenix Park to boundary of Clonsilla village, all those areas are fine places to live. Your budget won't get you much in castleknock, prob a 1 bed (real castleknock) but Carpenterstown you could get something in that range smaller 3 bed near train station or collegefort is decent location and lovely area but parking in estate is dire.

Portersgate (as opposed to porterstown) is also fine.

We never heard of Carpenterstown, is 3 bed going for 350,000 there?
What estates would you advise?

Hamachi

propertyseeker wrote: »

We think 350,000 should not be considered low when average wage is 50,000.

We saw that area but work buddy said same issues as other bad areas.
We might save more for nicer location

I agree, but the Dublin housing market is dysfunctional right now. Littlepace does not have any issues. A good friend of mine has lived there for years. It’s fine.

Honestly, with your budget and requirements, I’d be looking at some of the commuter towns in the Dublin orbit. You’ll get more bang for your buck there.

Treppen

propertyseeker wrote: »

We never heard of Carpenterstown, is 3 bed going for 350,000 there?
What estates would you advise?

Carpenterstown has an excellent secondary school on a par with any of the 'private' ones.

If you get a house in that area you would also be eligible for the new Edmund rice school.

Up in clonsilla there's coolmine college too which has a good reputation.

At this stage you'll do well to get a 3 bed for 350k around there.

BTW Carpenterstown and Riverwood ARE
in Castleknock. The main hint is Castleknock Community College is smack bang in the heart of Carpenterstown

Riverwood/ Carpenterstown are in the Castleknock Knockmaroon District Electoral Division (DED). These are the proper local boundaries used by the census, local govt.

You can get a map in the Ordance survey office in the phoenix park.

Everyone knows the "real" Castleknock is the other side of the M50 though... Wot wot .
The whole Castleknock division thing comes from the split in the M50... Castleknock Park is the electorial division on the posh side beside the park. You'll definitely not get a family home for 350k there OP. Unless one of those cottages come up.

Hamachi

Hamachi wrote: »

You get what you pay for. Your budget is very low for Dublin. D15 is probably the least desirable post code in the city for several reasons.

Ah, far from it I would think!
Dublin 1, and a lot of Dublin 10 and 11, would be the worst postcodes, in general.

OP, so you have to get a house? Would an apartment be ok?

burkey2k0

Treppen wrote:

BTW Carpenterstown and Riverwood ARE in Castleknock. The main hint is Castleknock Community College is smack bang in the heart of Carpenterstown

Do yourself a favour and don't look at where the 'Castleknock' Hotel is located

December2012

I am in Ongar since it was built and have not suffered any crime here. My children attend local schools, I have made lots of friends in the area and socialise in the area. We are involved in the community sports teams. My area is very quiet, full of families and I love it.
And FWIW (if its worth anything) I am white irish, from Dublin all my life. I enjoy the multicultural aspect of the area and the schools. Most of the people here have more in common with each other than differences.

frag420

ibrahimovic wrote: »

You'll fit in great, as there are no Irish in Dublin 15 xxx

Are you any relation to the Ibrahimavic’s in Clonsilla?

Hamachi

December2012 wrote: »

I am in Ongar since it was built and have not suffered any crime here. My children attend local schools, I have made lots of friends in the area and socialise in the area. We are involved in the community sports teams. My area is very quiet, full of families and I love it.
And FWIW (if its worth anything) I am white irish, from Dublin all my life. I enjoy the multicultural aspect of the area and the schools. Most of the people here have more in common with each other than differences.

I agree that Ongar is not nearly as crime- / gang-ridden as it’s perceived to be. My wife and a friend of hers go for long runs around the area and have never had any bother. I often run in the evenings / after dark in winter, and have also never had any hassle.

I think it’s a polarizing area. Most of my friends who live in other parts of Dublin who come to visit, are not impressed to say the least. The word on the property grapevine is that it’s an area best avoided. Personally, I think it’s ok, but I don’t want my children growing up here. I don’t enjoy the aspects of area that you appreciate and have had neighbors sell up for that reason. It’s very much a personal preference though and may suit the OP.

OP it really depends on your personal circumstances. House or apartment? Single or a couple? Children or intent to have a family? All these variables come into play when choosing an area.

handlemaster

propertyseeker wrote: »

Good afternoon,

Me and my partner are planning to buy family home in Dublin 15, we are not from Ireland.

We are looking in Dublin 15 with a budget of 300-350k. We do not know area too well.
My work buddy is from the area and has given us a list of the following areas to avoid:

Most estates near the shopping center
Blakestown
Hartstown/Huntstown
Fortlawn/Sheepmore
Pinebrook
Whitestown
Corduff
Tyrrelstown

They also advised against most of Clonsilla and Ongar and recommended we try stretch budget to over 400k to purchase house in Castleknock.

Are they correct with this advice? thanks

Would you buy a house based on one person's opinion. That is a very big brush you are painting D15 with. There are nearly 100k people living there over a very wide area. Your friend you say has lived in the area for 40 years. The area has builth up enormously over that period. Some people just don't like change and that comes out as a negative for the whole area. I know people who say England is no good to live in its changed so much they would rather live abroad. Does than mean it really is so?

bubblypop

bubblypop wrote: »

Ah, far from it I would think!
Dublin 1, and a lot of Dublin 10 and 11, would be the worst postcodes, in general.

Yeah, Dublin 15 is not the worst.

I've lived here for 5 years and never had any hassle. Previously lived in Dublin 24 and can't say the same.

handlemaster

Hamachi wrote: »

You get what you pay for. Your budget is very low for Dublin. D15 is probably the least desirable post code in the city for several reasons including location, demographics, and some social problems, which are somewhat exaggerated by the media.

One area to look at is Littlepace. It’s almost adjacent to Ongar, but seems significantly nicer. It’s about 15 years old, mostly settled, and has avoided the social problems reported in Ongar. Worth a look.

Never heard that one before least desirable in Dublin. Can you point me to where this info is coming from ?

niniboots

burkey2k0 wrote: »

Do yourself a favour and don't look at where the 'Castleknock' Hotel is located

The 'Castleknock' thing is funny, I've lived in the REAL porterstown for over 40 years, the area was mainly farming and countryside. Back before brown paper backs were the norm in planning the postal address and district was Diswellestown Road, Clonsilla, Dublin 15. Riverwood postal address is Carpenterstown, Castleknock and yes the voting register, schools etc now form part of Castleknock demise, however, way back when they were potato fields riverwood area estate was a field adjacent to Clonsilla road!!! The new fly over bridge is the boundary from St. Mochtas Football pitch Clonsilla, a stone throw to boundary of Carpenterstown Castleknock. That's not any reflection on Carpenterstown, or Clonsilla village they are all fine & lovely areas. Developer's & Fingal rezoning & Estate agents jumped on the Castleknock Village bandwagon when marketing these areas to get more dosh! Castleknock Hotel in reality is nearer strawberry beds, Porterstown!

Op the Carpenterstown area noted, Castlefield in Clonsilla are lovely areas, great schools but because they are nice areas in D15, demand is high and in this market you will be very lucky to get something for your budget. Agreed market is over inflated but 22 houses sold out in 6 minutes in Dunboyne, Bay view in Hollystown sold to over seas investors & 7000 had registered their interest, 2nd hand houses are bidding wars & 2bed in Carpenterstown marketed at 295k has offers 20% over asking, the two new builds in Clonsilla St. Joseph's and new additions to Castlefield were way over 400k 3beds, so you do the maths. Kellystown has big plans for redevelopment, fields at moment, kellystown lands are opposite luttrelstown Castle and stretch to Riverside boundary you might get future new build, maybe 2bed. Good luck though it's tough when you are looking for a home & I hope you find something.

Hamachi

handlemaster wrote: »

Never heard that one before least desirable in Dublin. Can you point me to where this info is coming from ?

Actually, least desirable is too extreme. Dublin 1 is clearly less desirable.

Apart from Castleknock, Dublin 15 isn’t prized by anybody with buying power.

handlemaster

Hamachi wrote: »

Actually, least desirable is too extreme. Dublin 1 is clearly less desirable.

Apart from Castleknock, Dublin 15 isn’t prized by anybody with buying power.

Again is this just your personal opinion ? I dont find anything referencing D15 as a bad place. I see the largest shopping centre in Dublin, national equatics centre, hospital, large employment centre , fastest growing suburb of Dublin, grand canal , acces to largest park in Dublin etc . But nothing about what you say. Can you put up a link ?

Hamachi

handlemaster wrote: »

Again is this just your personal opinion ? I dont find anything referencing D15 as a bad place. I see the largest shopping centre in Dublin, national equatics centre, hospital, large employment centre , fastest growing suburb of Dublin, grand canal , acces to pheo

It’s the opinion of a significant number of people currently in the market looking at buying property. I work on the other side of city. None of my colleagues currently looking at buying would even consider the area.

Do you think that Dublin 15 is top of the list for anybody with a decent to large budget? People buy here because it’s affordable, not because it’s hugely desirable.

Sweet.Science

Sweet.Science wrote: »

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terrace...dublin/3264276

Don't buy this one. The neighbour parks like an asshole.

Treppen

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Don't buy this one. The neighbour parks like an asshole.

:pac:

Hamachi

Hamachi wrote: »

It’s the opinion of a significant number of people currently in the market looking at buying property. I work on the other side of city. None of my colleagues currently looking at buying would even consider the area.

Do you think that Dublin 15 is top of the list for anybody with a decent to large budget? People buy here because it’s affordable, not because it’s hugely desirable.

And yet there are houses priced at over 500K in plenty of areas of Dublin 15, seems plenty of people find it desirable

handlemaster

Hamachi wrote: »

It’s the opinion of a significant number of people currently in the market looking at buying property. I work on the other side of city. None of my colleagues currently looking at buying would even consider the area.

Do you think that Dublin 15 is top of the list for anybody with a decent to large budget? People buy here because it’s affordable, not because it’s hugely desirable.

If they work on the other side of the city that makes sence not to buy on the opposite side. There is a logic to that nothing to do with the area itself.

Treppen

Hamachi wrote: »

Actually, least desirable is too extreme. Dublin 1 is clearly less desirable.

Apart from Castleknock, Dublin 15 isn’t prized by anybody with buying power.

What do you mean by " buying power " daddy Warbucks ?.

Hamachi

handlemaster wrote: »

If they work on the other side of the city that makes sence not to buy on the opposite side. There is a logic to that nothing to do with the area itself.

The logic has nothing to do with geography. It’s the perception of the area.

Hamachi

Treppen wrote: »

What do you mean by " buying power " daddy Warbucks ?.

Budget.

Sweet.Science

I grew up in Dublin 15 and am finding out more about on this thread than I did in my 24 years living there

niniboots

Hamachi wrote: »

The logic has nothing to do with geography. It’s the perception of the area.

It seems your perception is based on wildly exaggerated media reports and anecdotal conversations with office buddies who aren't looking in D15. D15 IS HUGE, there are fabulous areas, very desirable areas and less so desirable district's, if budget is one of your arguments for insulting an entire area that seems silly! FYI you won't get much for 400k that's not cheap, keep going upwards for Strawberry Bed, Homeleigh, Farmleigh, Castleknock Village, Georgian Village, Park Dive, Luttrelstown, Bracken View, Old Carpenterstown Road you will need a very very large bank balance. Regardless, your points are not accurate for thousands who do love and live in the area!

MayoSalmon

handlemaster wrote: »

Again is this just your personal opinion ? I dont find anything referencing D15 as a bad place. I see the largest shopping centre in Dublin, national equatics centre, hospital, large employment centre , fastest growing suburb of Dublin, grand canal , acces to largest park in Dublin etc . But nothing about what you say. Can you put up a link ?

Parts of D15 are gross though...you couldn't pay me to live in or around Corduff, Sheepmoor or up around Mulhuddart but other areas are quite desirable. All things considered there's more bad than good areas in Dublin 15 hence the reputation I'd say.