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F1 2021 Round 6: Azerbaijan GP

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  • Faugheen wrote: »
    Neither did Hamilton in Monaco (EDIT: Say anything controversial), but they both threw the toys out of the pram when it didn't go their way.

    People need to learn to read on this forum. Both threw the toys out of the pram when it didn't go their way. One is called a bitch and a dick, the other gets a pass when he is very well known for having a whinge himself.

    It's consistency, or the lack thereof. It's nothing to do with a driving throwing the toys out of the pram it's just a sheer unnecessary hatred for one driver which is why people here pretend to give a **** when Hamilton does it.

    They are 2 different things, though. Drivers complain all the time about things outside of their control - this season I think nearly everyone has rightly had a pop at Mazepin, for example.

    Lewis has form for admonishing his team publicly. He's the best driver on the grid, and has the might of the biggest F1 team all working to the singular goal of giving him the best chance to win races - but it's still sport, and there will always be things that won't go to plan. No reason after the race last week for him to say that they need to learn and he doesn't. He drove poorly all weekend, Bottas showed the Merc still had decent pace around the track but he couldn't find it. Just be a teammate and say we got it wrong and we have to work on it.

    Interestingly Max I used to find to be a lot more petulant and arrogant, and I couldn't stand him for it. This season he seems a lot more mature, takes the good and the bad as a team. Barcelona was a good example, you could hear how frustrated he was as the team basically got their strategy completely wrong and he had no chance of winning it - but by the end of the race there was no wringing anyone out to dry. I sincerely doubt Lewis would have reacted that way.

    So you might want to simplify things to create a false equivalency, but I can understand some of the things Lewis does rubbing people the wrong way.




  • Hopefully vettel can make use of his free choice of tyres to start tomorrow to get a good strategy in.

    Start and first lap should be a belter tomorrow, max will want to get the jump on Lewis.




  • There is a thread for this separate to the race thread .

    Can ye take the Lewis stuff over there. It wrecks threads every season




  • F2 races were quite messy, but good




  • Should be an eventful race anyway, bonkers qualifying session.


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  • So just at the end of watching the session now. Is Leclerc still on pole?

    Just watched Sky storyline yes he still is good. Hopefully it will be a good race. Can't be as boring as Monaco anyway.




  • Alonso (the world's worst whinger) is also lashing out after qualifying, a lot more strongly than Max was.

    https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.alonso-blasts-rivals-for-driving-over-their-abilities-and-says-its-unfair.X5spE79vhNMvv5p3w6NEv.html
    Fernando Alonso outqualified team mate Esteban Ocon and made it into Q3 in Azerbaijan for the first time ever, but the Spaniard wasn’t entirely happy on Saturday evening, blaming a ‘messy’ stop-start qualifying session on some of his rivals "driving over the possibilities of their car or their abilities".
    ...

    “It was very chaotic, it was a messy qualifying,” he said. “Four red flags… that was difficult to get into the rhythm on the qualifying pace, on the track improvement, on the grip conditions that you get on Saturday. It’s the same for everybody, so you just try to adapt quicker.

    ...

    "[It's] unfair probably that the people that crashed, they repair the car and they start in that position tomorrow.

    "All the other cars, we are in parc ferme until tomorrow, we cannot touch the car, so why they can change all the parts that they caused the red flag? Maybe one day we are in that position and we take advantage of the rule.

    "I think the people need to calm down a little bit and drive 98% in a street circuit because if you crash and you start last in the race, maybe you don't drive over your possibilities.

    "And I think today with so many people driving over the possibilities of their car or their abilities."




  • Alonso (the world's worst whinger) is also lashing out after qualifying, a lot more strongly than Max was.

    https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.alonso-blasts-rivals-for-driving-over-their-abilities-and-says-its-unfair.X5spE79vhNMvv5p3w6NEv.html

    He isn't wrong though.




  • There probably should be a penalty of some sort. They are hardly going to use the tires from the accidents and front wings .. one place penalty for each change .

    Would probably be fair or something to that affect .




  • Can I just say, and it's probably been years since this has happened, the top five on the grid are from 5 different teams.

    It's great to see the whole grid so mixed up. Will make a great race tomorrow!


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  • This feels like the race where Verstappen and Hamilton wipe each other out into turn 1




  • flazio wrote: »
    This feels like the race where Verstappen and Hamilton wipe each other out into turn 1

    Hamilton on the inside. Max to get around the outside to go Side by side and Collision in turn 2

    Think we will have at least 1 red flag and a few safety cars. Although there wasn't even a Yellow flag in Monaco.

    Am hoping Sainz wins. If he hasn't stuffed his gearbox.




  • Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Hamilton on the inside. Max to get around the outside to go Side by side and Collision in turn 2

    Good chance that Leclerc and Hamilton touch also. Leclerc’s not going to give an inch into turn 1.




  • You'd imagine someone is going to have a lock up and hit a barrier. I'd be surprised if there wasnt a red flag today especially with how turn 15 went in qualifying and practice




  • both this race an monaco have no place on the F1 calander. all were gona see today is flags. ad the odd overtake on the back straight. its all gona be done in the pits. pointless.




  • Nozebleed wrote: »
    both this race an monaco have no place on the F1 calander. all were gona see today is flags. ad the odd overtake on the back straight. its all gona be done in the pits. pointless.

    Well they do have a place because if all the tracks were the same I’d be fairly boring. While I have an issue with this track and the long final straight and how it makes DRS and overtaking a joke, it’s a good track with some interesting sections. And the qualifying yesterday was very exciting.

    Overtaking is done in the pits at all races because it’s part of the art of F1 of getting ahead of your opponents.




  • Nozebleed wrote: »
    both this race an monaco have no place on the F1 calander. all were gona see today is flags. ad the odd overtake on the back straight. its all gona be done in the pits. pointless.

    Other than both being street circuits, Monaco and Baku couldn't be any more different. One is narrow and twisty with no straights or any overtaking zones, the other is massively wide (except for the castle section) with a gigantic flat out main straight. There'll be plenty of overtaking today. And surely drivers need to be challenged, make a mistake and you're in the wall. Not like other circuits with massive run off areas which are much more forgiving of mistakes.




  • Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Hamilton on the inside. Max to get around the outside to go Side by side and Collision in turn 2

    Think we will have at least 1 red flag and a few safety cars. Although there wasn't even a Yellow flag in Monaco.

    Am hoping Sainz wins. If he hasn't stuffed his gearbox.

    Can't see either Ferrari winning. They'll get gobbled up on the main straight by DRS.




  • You can also pretty much guarantee a safety car (especially as they’re sponsored now), so the timing of that could’ve decide the race. Hamilton and Ferrari have apparently both sacrificed tyre wear for straight-line speed, so a cheap pit-stop will be very welcomed at any point. But if the RBs are kinder on their tyres, they can perhaps stay out longer and wait for a safety car.




  • Nozebleed wrote: »
    both this race an monaco have no place on the F1 calander. all were gona see today is flags. ad the odd overtake on the back straight. its all gona be done in the pits. pointless.
    Idiotic comments. This track is up there with the most overtakes every year and they don’t all just happen on the back straight. I don’t know why you would complain about there being safety cars/flags as they make the race more interesting.


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  • Ferrari are not changing Sainz's gearbox, they changed as much as they could according to Carlos.




  • There'll probably be a safety car on the first lap




  • Think this may be the race when Red Bull can finally have Perez up there alongside Max and as a result can try some new strategies especially with Bottas so far back and unable to help Mercedes.

    Fancy Lewis or Max to win with Perez working well as a helping hand in third.




  • Judging by Hamilton’s sheer delight at being second yesterday I’d be surprised if the Merc is in the running. He’ll need a tow all race.

    That RB looks like the fastest car out there. So you’d have to think it’s Max’s to lose.

    Having said that. Verstappen and Hamilton did an extra two laps on their race start tyre yesterday. The softs are a pile of ****e here.

    With that in mind, I fancy Vettel to score some good points as he’ll get to start on the mediums. Is it a two-stop race if you’re starting on the softs?




  • Hamilton has a great chance to lead from the first corner.
    In the F2 race grid positions 2,4,6 all gained on those ahead.




  • I'd like to see both Verstappen and Lewis take eachother out on Turn 1. It might lead to a more exiting race overall.

    Either way, my money is on Mazepin to take out two drivers in the first lap.




  • Baku is one of the tracks I look forward to the most each year. It has a bit of everything. We get to see a lot of overtaking but with consequences. Like a monaco/monza combo. I don't get the hate this track gets, we have always had great racing here.




  • Ted and co really trying to hype this up.

    Bookies have Lewis and Max pretty much neck and neck, Perez 16/1 and the rest 50/1+ :pac:




  • Nozebleed wrote: »
    both this race an monaco have no place on the F1 calander. all were gona see today is flags. ad the odd overtake on the back straight. its all gona be done in the pits. pointless.

    I know what you mean, However i like the likes of this track.

    Looking at some of the onboard is unreal - there is very little margin for error, no big run-offs to get away with mistakes.


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  • Cool shot of one of the mercs during Lewis' post quali interview.

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