What's your job & salary

antgal23

I think this thread should be retitlted

How much do you earn and how many hours do you work including the commute?

JimmyVik

Eircom_Sucks wrote: »

all these high paying jobs being mentioned here and yet all still on boards mostly during working hours

Whats funny is the "Public sector paycuts" thread.
The main proponents of public sector paycuts in that thread posting all day every day in it. The ironing.

purpleisafruit

Eircom_Sucks wrote: »

all these high paying jobs being mentioned here and yet all still on boards mostly during working hours

The higher paid you are, the more in control of your workload you are.

KeepItLight

OSI wrote: »

This is so hilariously out of touch I'd question if you're even employed, never mind a "manager".
If you're in any sort of competitive industry, and the tech and pharmaceutical industries that bolster a lot of the Irish economy certainly are, then talent acquisition and retention are significant concerns. Acquiring the right talent is a very costly and often drawn out process, and unless an employee is looking for a 6 figure raise you'll rarely find it's cheaper to lose them and find a replacement than it is to match their salary demands.
We regularly engage with an advisory firm to perform research on salary demands in our sector to ensure we aren't losing staff to competitors. This year the average salary increase seen across the business was in the region of 4.5%. We had three employees that got increases of over 15%, with one of those pushing him over 100k.
I guess that's why you're only a manager.

Exactly, these roles tend to be underpaid if you've spent any decent amount of time in them or were promoted internally to that role. I was able to negotiate a 10k raise for myself without too much effort a few years ago, and several of my coworkers were offered 20%-30% salary raises when they handed in their notice.
If you're competent and with the same company for a number of years, odds are you're being underpaid.

KeepItLight

KeepItLight wrote: »

Exactly, these roles tend to be underpaid if you've spent any decent amount of time in them or were promoted internally to that role. I was able to negotiate a 10k raise for myself without too much effort a few years ago, and several of my coworkers were offered 20%-30% salary raises when they handed in their notice.
If you're competent and with the same company for a number of years, odds are you're being underpaid.

I'd agree to a point and I think the other poster was advocating for reducing salaries or some such self flagellation dystopian ideal.

However, there will always be a tipping point. So, while €10k pay rises (presumably without added workload) sounds great, there is an element of Celtic Tiger entitlement there. Great in the short term, but uncertain over the longer term. It depends on the industry, INTEL seems to be okay with it, but they could be facing massive issues in the not too distant future, and costs will become more of an issue. Same with DELL when they moved their operations east (which they possibly regret). None of us work in a vacuum.

The above is easy to say, harder to put into practice. From a Short Term POV if my next salary increase could be €10k would I go for it, of course.

laserlad2010

Geuze wrote: »

I'm curious, when you say finished training, do you mean training in a speciality?

Which typically takes place in a hospital?

Assuming the HSE is the employer, I'm surprised they let their staff go part-time, given the shortage of doctors?

Yes I'm almost finished training in two specialties (12 years total)

I am allowed to apply for time out of training to upskill - in my case I'm lecturing and doing research for two years (one of which is counted as training)

Once I'm finished I'll go to London for 2+ years to gain sub-specialist training in critical perioperative newborn care, and hopefully work in the ICU in Great Ormond Street.

The purpose of all of this is to work in the New Children's hospital Intensive Care Units, where I'll share a 24/7 365 rota with 4-6 other consultants.

If Slaintecare doesn't come through my salary will be around 140k for that.

I should add the pay cut was from 70k to 50k, which I have managed to offset by doing the locum work. However this means increased hours and stress to bring in enough money to run the house!

sReq | uTeK

Pussyhands wrote: »

Mind me asking what age you are? What were you earning age 30?

I'm mid 30s now. I would say about 110k age 30. Age 25, aka 10 years ago about 40k.

My targets would have significantly increased over the years but so to in addition was the level of client I inherited when others moved on or couldn't cut the mustard.

The key to successful IT selling is ensuring you wrap everything into a service so that you are sticky and relevant within your customers but also that have guaranteed revenue month by month and you don't start flat.

KeepItLight

Deleted User wrote: »

However, there will always be a tipping point. So, while €10k pay rises (presumably without added workload) sounds great, there is an element of Celtic Tiger entitlement there. Great in the short term, but uncertain over the longer term. It depends on the industry, INTEL seems to be okay with it, but they could be facing massive issues in the not too distant future, and costs will become more of an issue. Same with DELL when they moved their operations east (which they possibly regret). None of us work in a vacuum.

People are entitled to as much salary as they can get, that is literally the market value of their labour at that time.

Wider economic trends that might lead to Irish people losing jobs to automation or cheaper labour abroad is no reason for those people to not try and make their money while they can, and the remark that it's 'Celtic Tiger entitlement" is bizarre.

KeepItLight

KeepItLight wrote: »

People are entitled to as much salary as they can get, that is literally the market value of their labour at that time.

Wider economic trends that might lead to Irish people losing jobs to automation or cheaper labour abroad is no reason for those people to not try and make their money while they can, and the remark that it's 'Celtic Tiger entitlement" is bizarre.

Okay, no marks for seeing the bigger picture. And as I said, I would still maximise my own salary.

Pussyhands

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

I'm mid 30s now. I would say about 110k age 30. Age 25, aka 10 years ago about 40k.

My targets would have significantly increased over the years but so to in addition was the level of client I inherited when others moved on or couldn't cut the mustard.

The key to successful IT selling is ensuring you wrap everything into a service so that you are sticky and relevant within your customers but also that have guaranteed revenue month by month and you don't start flat.

Damn, fair play.

I'm 30 on 50k, feel like it's **** all now after reading the thread.

KeepItLight

Deleted User wrote: »

Okay, no marks for seeing the bigger picture. And as I said, I would still maximise my own salary.

What bigger picture are you talking about - The economy? The jobs market in general? Do you think Irish workers have agency in this?

KeepItLight

KeepItLight wrote: »

What bigger picture are you talking about - The economy? The jobs market in general? Do you think Irish workers have agency in this?

You do realise companies leave high wage economies for cheaper labour. Once you grasp that concept I think you're there. Hopefully anyway.

KeepItLight

Deleted User wrote: »

You do realise companies leave high wage economies for cheaper labour. Once you grasp that concept I think you're there. Hopefully anyway.

I literally mentioned that both my posts. It seems you are trying to argue with an imaginary poster.

Less of the passive aggressive little swipes, please - you're not as clever as you seem to think you are.

KeepItLight

KeepItLight wrote: »

I literally mentioned that both my posts. It seems you are trying to argue with an imaginary poster.

Less of the passive aggressive little swipes, please - you're not as clever as you seem to think you are.

But, you put ? after them. If that was rhetorical and you knew the answer already you should have worded it better, or just thanked my post to show understanding and moved on.

Rugbymad2020

Offshore oil and gas £100k for 6-8 months of the year

krissovo

Deleted User wrote: »

You do realise companies leave high wage economies for cheaper labour. Once you grasp that concept I think you're there. Hopefully anyway.

By your logic we should base our salary expectations on competing with the Chinese/Indian/Philippine labor force :eek:

You do realize :rolleyes: that when the likes of Dell moved their manufacturing to eastern Europe we had effectively by then "upskilled" a large number of the workforce from factory workers to more technical & management positions.

bladespin

Deleted User wrote: »

You do realise companies leave high wage economies for cheaper labour. Once you grasp that concept I think you're there. Hopefully anyway.

Only for those with labour intensive processes, others cannot risk moving due to skill base or patent protection, it's not always as simple as cheapest wins, some of those you list are near as dammit fully automated and only rely on labour to keep the automation working.

krissovo

krissovo wrote: »

By your logic we should base our salary expectations on competing with the Chinese/Indian/Philippine labor force :eek:

No, I'm not being that specific. If you think the Irish jobs market exists without connection to the world economy I think that is myopic.

bladespin

bladespin wrote: »

Only for those with labour intensive processes, others cannot risk moving due to skill base or patent protection, it's not always as simple as cheapest wins, some of those you list are near as dammit fully automated and only rely on labour to keep the automation working.

No, I don't think it's simply the lowest cost that wins. If that was the case Ireland wouldn't have such a good history of winning US FDI.


I think it's a significant factor, one which will become a bigger factor if there's a world recession.

LawBoy2018

- Trainee solicitor
- 40K
- Worked 65+ hours last week

lonestargirl

Allied health professional HSE
70k - nominally a 37.5 hr week but always work more.

Single parent living in Dublin so it all falls to me!

MindBent

Electrician working at a pharmaceutical plant in Cork. Base is 50k. We get payed travel and get some overtime, more so for shutdowns. This can push it over 60K. We work for contractors based on site and not directly employed by the pharma company.

voldejoie

I work in a very niche sector that is very prominent in Ireland. Have recently accepted an offer with another (US-based) company - base salary €95k, target bonus 25% and some sort of share scheme after a year's tenure (if I last that long!) I've been looking to pivot into something with a better work life balance but couldn't turn down this opportunity to get more cash together in the short term. Also I used to travel a lot for work and have missed it a lot since the pandemic, so looking forward to getting back on the road for a while!

My salary progression is quite stark, looking back. I'm a qualified barrister but haven't ever practiced, I'm glad that the transferrable skills really have been beneficial in my career to date.

wally1990

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

- Trainee solicitor
- 40K
- Worked 65+ hours last week

What is involved as a trainee ?

Id imagine law must be mentally exhausting and alot alot of reading .......(yes I'm naive)

LawBoy2018

wally1990 wrote: »

What is involved as a trainee ?

Id imagine law must be mentally exhausting and alot alot of reading .......(yes I'm naive)

I work in tax/trusts & estates currently so I deal with things like CGT/CAT computations, tax returns, research, drafting client emails, stamp duty queries, VAT queries, etc.

Trainees wouldn't have much contact with clients, that's probably the main difference.

Hibernia93

Work in Retail probably 20k a year 27 still live at home with parents. I wouldn't say I hate reading these threads but definitely feel embarrassed and even ashamed that I still haven't found what I'm supposed to do with life. That's not to be critical of others it's just all on myself. Summer time is always the worst in normal times especially on a Friday seeing people your own age having weekend pints. It's the worse conversation to get into you when meeting new people I've even lied to strangers in pubs about the work I do and just change the subject sometimes tell them I work in Sales and change the subject. Its not that I'm snobby it's just my own Insecurity. I've met great and happy friends in work but there other half's are all in good employment and some have mortgages. During the pandemic it was nice to be viewed as an Essential Worker but I don't think that view will last unfortunately when the world reopens. I Can say I'm very generous with money towards others think that comes from the shame in a weird way. I've been asked to be a grooms by a very good friend of mine who I only met in 2016 through football who is a software developer and does grinds as a nixer on crazy money I'm actually really worried about the questions from others at the table because I know they'll all have better Jobs and I've only met the bride and Groom. Life is what you make it a Postman said that to me best piece of advice given not that I've used it yet I'm not making excuses for myself Only I can make myself happy but it's very tough when suffering alone and the fear of the unknown and failure.

wally1990

Hibernia93 wrote: »

Work in Retail probably 20k a year 27 still live at home with parents. I wouldn't say I hate reading these threads but definitely feel embarrassed and even ashamed that I still haven't found what I'm supposed to do with life. That's not to be critical of others it's just all on myself. Summer time is always the worst in normal times especially on a Friday seeing people your own age having weekend pints. It's the worse conversation to get into you when meeting new people I've even lied to strangers in pubs about the work I do and just change the subject sometimes tell them I work in Sales and change the subject. Its not that I'm snobby it's just my own Insecurity. I've met great and happy friends in work but there other half's are all in good employment and some have mortgages. During the pandemic it was nice to be viewed as an Essential Worker but I don't think that view will last unfortunately when the world reopens. I Can say I'm very generous with money towards others think that comes from the shame in a weird way. I've been asked to be a grooms by a very good friend of mine who I only met in 2016 through football who is a software developer and does grinds as a nixer on crazy money I'm actually really worried about the questions from others at the table because I know they'll all have better Jobs and I've only met the bride and Groom. Life is what you make it a Postman said that to me best piece of advice given not that I've used it yet I'm not making excuses for myself Only I can make myself happy but it's very tough when suffering alone and the fear of the unknown and failure.

I feel reading your post (and I'm assuming here) the issue isn't really the fact you work in retail per se but rather your not confident to stand over what you work in because you ''haven't found what your supposed to do with life''

It seems like you need to sit down and Create a 5 to 7 year plan for yourself , and focus on achieving that

Whether that is change job, industry , reskill , go back to college , whatever that may look like for you

Then when you are asked the question, you will answer it with more confidence and pride because you have a goal and roadmap set for yourself and say " I am doing X to achieve Y'

Wompa1

Self Employed IT. About 150k but end up using some to buy new hardware and training plus put some toward retirement. Feel very fortunate but also aware there is no way this lasts.

Wompa1

Hibernia93 wrote: »

Work in Retail probably 20k a year 27 still live at home with parents. I wouldn't say I hate reading these threads but definitely feel embarrassed and even ashamed that I still haven't found what I'm supposed to do with life. That's not to be critical of others it's just all on myself. Summer time is always the worst in normal times especially on a Friday seeing people your own age having weekend pints. It's the worse conversation to get into you when meeting new people I've even lied to strangers in pubs about the work I do and just change the subject sometimes tell them I work in Sales and change the subject. Its not that I'm snobby it's just my own Insecurity. I've met great and happy friends in work but there other half's are all in good employment and some have mortgages. During the pandemic it was nice to be viewed as an Essential Worker but I don't think that view will last unfortunately when the world reopens. I Can say I'm very generous with money towards others think that comes from the shame in a weird way. I've been asked to be a grooms by a very good friend of mine who I only met in 2016 through football who is a software developer and does grinds as a nixer on crazy money I'm actually really worried about the questions from others at the table because I know they'll all have better Jobs and I've only met the bride and Groom. Life is what you make it a Postman said that to me best piece of advice given not that I've used it yet I'm not making excuses for myself Only I can make myself happy but it's very tough when suffering alone and the fear of the unknown and failure.

Retail is stigmatized here. I worked in retail until I was 22. Spent almost as much time working in retail as I have in IT now. My sister worked her way up into management in retail. She was making about 60k a year. If you are committed to it, you can do fairly well if it's what you want to do.

YellowLead

wally1990 wrote: »

I feel reading your post (and I'm assuming here) the issue isn't really the fact you work in retail per se but rather your not confident to stand over what you work in because you ''haven't found what your supposed to do with life''

It seems like you need to sit down and Create a 5 to 7 year plan for yourself , and focus on achieving that

Whether that is change job, industry , reskill , go back to college , whatever that may look like for you

Then when you are asked the question, you will answer it with more confidence and pride because you have a goal and roadmap set for yourself and say " I am doing X to achieve Y'

This exactly. If you were to say it with pride nobody at the table would bat an eyelid.