Ryder Cup 2020 [Official Thread!]

Joe_ Public

Whatever the quality, I hope they give us a decent setup this time, can get a bit tedious when they're pitching it almost dead every second hole and the lads on sky almost launching into orbit. Not even sure a benign setup would favour the Americans all that much this time. And whistling straits is generally a decent test anyway, especially if there's some breeze about.

Deeper Blue

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830005#Comment_117830005

I think Whistling Straits is a far better course than Hazeltine so hopefully that'll make it more interesting regardless of setup.

I agree Hazeltine was a bit one dimensional

Personally I'm just hoping for a close contest. The only two that have been any bit exciting in the last two decades were 2010 and 2012 for me. 2002 was good aswell.

Dr. Bre

Ye just hoping for a close contest. Last three were over early into the singles I think

Frisbee

They will (and should) set it up in a way that suits them. Long as possible. Zero premium on driving accuracy and a massive focus on driving distance.

The Big Easy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831645#Comment_117831645

They'll do well to have zero premium on driving accuracy on a Pete Dye!

Mantis Toboggan

Stenson off to a good start in Italy 5 under, cheeseburger - 1 thru 12 miglionzzi 2 over thru 12.

Rikand

Stenson giving himself a great chance of a pick with his current form

callaway92

Shouldn’t be the case that a few weeks of form coming into the Ryder Cup is the be-all and end-all

Without sounding too disingenuous, I’d probably be picking Richard Bland over Henrik Stenson this time around

The Big Easy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117838157#Comment_117838157

Agree with the sentiment and feel he needs to win this week or next week (maybe both 😄) to be seriously considered.

Although with Henrik, it wouldn't be the first or even the second time he's gone from no-hoper to world-class in a short period of time.

Mantis Toboggan

Tommy starting to show a bit of form finally.

Mantis Toboggan

What does Pèrez need to do to qualify?

Rikand

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117841797#Comment_117841797

A lot.

This week he would have to win to move into either the qualifying positions on the world list or european points list. His form has really dropped off a cliff in the last few months.

Next week has a lot more on offer, so we'll cross next week when we come to it lol

I watch a lot of golf, but find it difficult to get excited about the Ryder Cup. Like the Lions Tour, it just seems very fake and corporate. Something Sky hypes up.

Worrying times for US captain Steve Stricker as Brooks Koepka withdraws from the Tour Championship due to injury. The Ryder Cup starts in 20 days from now.

Mushy

Wiesberger made a hames of the end of front 9/start of back 9. Only at -2 with 5/6 holes left

Rikand

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117849096#Comment_117849096

He finished -1, so he'll gain bugger all points.

Victor Perez also going backwards today. 2 over for his round after 6 holes.

Tommy Fleetwood may overtake Shane today on the world points list, but it wont matter as he'll be consolidating his position on the european points list

abff

I've had a look at what various players need to do in order to get into an automatic qualifying spot and have posted the results of my analysis in the Shane Lowry thread, if anyone is interested.

paulos53

Sergio Garcia is not playing this week so he must be confident of getting a wildcard

Mantis Toboggan

Yeah had said previously that Sergio will get a pick if he doesn't qualify, especially now that he's in good form.

The Big Easy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117856645#Comment_117856645

No, Paddy has been playing the long game and planning the ultimate revenge upon Sergio, all the sweeter now that's he's sure he's in! 😄

Pdoghue

Poor form but not that surprising that Rory, Rahm, Sergio, and Casey are not playing at Wentworth.

SeeMoreBut

Daniel Berger, Harris English, Tony Finau, Scottie Scheffler, Xander Schauffele and Jordan Spieth named as Steve Stricker's wildcard picks for Team USA; Ryder Cup to be played from September 24-26 at Whistling Straits

Berger jumps Reed who was ahead in rankings

Sergio must know he is in if not playing

Pdoghue

Looks like Stricker picked long hitters to suit the course, instead of guys like Reed, Kisner, Simpson and Na.

abff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117864127#Comment_117864127

Pretty much straight down the list from the qualifying table. The only exception is Scheffler in 14th who leaps over Simpson in 13th and displaces Reid in 11th.

Rikand

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117864127#Comment_117864127

Scheffler jumped Reed as well too. Scheffler was 14th, while Reed was 11th. Guess he left Reed out as nobody on the team probably likes him all that much

Mantis Toboggan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117865246#Comment_117865246

Hasn't he been quite ill recently? Was hoping Phil would get a call to give the Europeans a better chance.

Rikand

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117865256#Comment_117865256

He was. But he played at the tour championship and he did alright for a fella who almost died. I thought he might have done enough.

Looking at the European Picks, the top 3 players in the world rankings who arent in the qualifying spots are Sergio, Rose and Poulter

The Big Easy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117865352#Comment_117865352

I like Reed's spikiness and it's great for the Ryder Cup in general, it's a loss in terms of the overall spectacle.

That's the 3 I would pick anyway and I think Paddy will too, unless one of many possible permutations play out this weekend.

It's disappointing that not all the European guys are playing the flagship event, I'd have made it a prerequisite of team membership almost. Still it's a top field, but when you see guys like Scott and Horschel there, but no Sergio, Rory or Casey, it's hard not be a little disappointed. And it may even end up meaning Paddy has to use a pick on Shane which is not what he wants I'm sure.

Edit: And Rahm too obviously

abff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117865352#Comment_117865352

Yes, and they would be the most logical choices if the 9 automatic qualifiers remain unchanged. Whether this would remain the case if Lowry and/or Westwood were to fall out of the automatic qualifying places remains to be seen.

Mantis Toboggan

If lowry qualifies then third pick is very much up in the air. Rose is in Pole position for it imo but if someone like Stenson, Bob Mac, Noren, Perez, miglionizi, cheeseburger, Hojgaard win or top 5 they could force their way in.

slave1

Reed is a loss for sure, he has passion but fair to say a guy just recovered from double pneumonia would be a stretch for 3 intense days back to back

SeeMoreBut

Rory after playing last 3 weeks and doesn't need to play so why bother coming over here for a week to go back to USA. Casey something similar.

Garcia played last 3 weeks and must have got the ok for Harrington ala Faldo.

Harrington big worry be someone who he probably doesn't want making the team with a win this weekend even though he will never admit it.

I was say if you don't make the team automatically you have no complaints if not selected.

Mushy

Wiesberger and Perez having poor front 9s

abff

There are 14 players who could potentially break into the automatic qualifying spots this week. Justin Rose, Alex Noren, Danny Willett, Calum Hill, Richard Bland, Rasmus Hojgaard, Henrik Stenson or Matthias Schwab would need a win to do so, but 3rd place could be good enough for Victor Perez or Robert MacIntyre and 2nd place might be good enough for Ian Poulter, Thomas Detry or Guido Migliozzi. And a top 49 could conceivably be enough for Wiesberger.

if Poulter or Rose makes it into the automatic spots at Lowry’s expense, I think there is a chance that Shane would get a wild card. But if someone else forces his way into the team (particularly someone who would be a rookie), I think it would be difficult for Padraig to justify giving Shane a pick.

techdiver

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117867138#Comment_117867138

Whilst Shane would be a Ryder Cup rookie, he would be in a different mould as a rookie. He is a major champion who has proven himself world wide. I wouldn't see it as a leap to pick Shane regardless, especially given his recent for is better than Rose and Stenson.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117867138#Comment_117867138

Shane is guaranteed a pick is he slips out of the final qualifying place. There is only 1 rookie in the team as it stands so picking him as a rookie isn't an issue. He is a WGC and Major Champion.

abff

Wiesberger is currently 3 over par after 10 holes and Perez is 4 over after 11. Both players are in danger of missing the cut if they can’t turn things around.

Speak Now

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117867174#Comment_117867174

Yeah agreed, Wiesberger missing the cut would be great for whoever is in line for the 3rd wildcard (Likely to be Rose)

Mantis Toboggan

Rose rising to the occasion so far. Top 20 should be enough for him to get the 3rd pick providing one of the other contenders doesn't go and win it.

Rikand

It was actually a pretty smart move by Garcia not to show up. Perez probably playing himself off the team at the moment. Wiesberger also too. Garcia cant play himself off the team at the moment

RoadRunner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117867589#Comment_117867589

Doing nothing is better than doing poorly 🤨

Speak Now

Wiesberger eagles the 18th to get to -1 for the day, good back 9 from him.

slave1

I don’t get the reasons for Shane getting his pick, he’s had the same qualifying time as everyone else so should qualify on merit as his route in. Poults and Serio a given now. With Rose’s RC record he would be a better RC pick over Shane, Rose is a proven putter and that’s what wins match play. I’ve nothing against Shane, was cheering him on in Portrush but I’d honestly go for Rose

Mantis Toboggan

Lowry won't need a pick, he'll qualify directly, Rose will get the last pick as long as Miguel Angel Jimenez doesn't win this..

The Big Easy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117870848#Comment_117870848

I'd be a little bit miffed if I was Rose that Poults and Sergio are seen as certainties while he's a doubt. He's certainly been a better more high-class player than Poulter (I know Poults is Mr. Ryder Cup) and arguably Sergio too as he's been World No. 1 and won a Fed Ex Cup.

His Ryder Cup record is also one of Europe's best over the last number of years and he was a huge part of the miracle at Medinah. Just personally if I was him, I'd be feeling a little overlooked by everyone.

He's already been shafted a bit in 2010, when Monty was looking to protect the European Tour by picking Eddy Molinari over him!

Mantis Toboggan

Hojgaard goes and shoots 81 when a victory would have got him in!

slave1

Monty made mad choices, and his timing was woeful too

slave1

Shane playing great at the minute too, free YouTube stream of his round too

Dr. Bre

Worried about the form of Hatton going into the Ryder

Innish_Rebel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117871508#Comment_117871508

Hatton, Westwood & Fitzpatrick are all showing slightly worrying form if I'm honest.