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Bluegate Car Store?

  • 22-05-2021 10:21pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭


    Hi, just wondering what the story is with this place. Talked to them and they said they are part of Frank Keane Group and take some of the trade in from Frank Keane

    Just wondering if anyone knows the story with them?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    I presume they just buy used cars or sell trade-ins they take in at their brand forecourts, that don't meet the criteria retailing used cars on those branded forecourts. The likes of BMW, VW, etc would have certain criteria set out for used cars to qualify for their used car warranties such as age, mileage and condition. In the past they would have sold these cars on to the trade but there is more money in it to just sell them to the public themselves under a different non associated name. Joe Duffy does the same with their Zucar garages or Keary's carstore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭mankteln


    bazz26 wrote: »
    I presume they just buy used cars or sell trade-ins they take in at their brand forecourts, that don't meet the criteria retailing used cars on those branded forecourts. The likes of BMW, VW, etc would have certain criteria set out for used cars to qualify for their used car warranties such as age, mileage and condition. In the past they would have sold these cars on to the trade but there is more money in it to just sell them to the public themselves under a different non associated name. Joe Duffy does the same with their Zucar garages or Keary's carstore.

    That's interesting I never realised that was the craic with Zucar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭MarkN


    Frank Keane owned. They sell on stuff that can't be retailed in VW or BMW sites and bring in stuff of their own to sell too. MG dealer also. They're 100%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Gorgeousgeorge


    Bought my 530 off them. Nice lads to deal with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭mankteln


    Yeah had been looking at a car with them about 6 months ago in Limerick, didn't get it in the end but they seemed grand


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    mankteln wrote: »
    That's interesting I never realised that was the craic with Zucar

    I didnt know either....I was talking to a guy in ZuCar about a car. No pics up. He said he would send in 30 mins, 10 mins later he rang back and said ti was sold

    Person bought over phone because it was coming from Joe Duffy and was trade in.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    Im just wondering why stuff would not be sold by Frank Keane, this hasn't been advertised and not in yet. It is decent age with low mileage and I see similar BMW for sale in Frank Keane. The guy in Bluegate did say it was a base line but still leather seats etc.

    I would have expected high mileage/older cars they would sell via that wing. Hard to decide when you can't see it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    As I said, they have criteria for cars being sold on the branded dealership forecourts. If the car doesn't meet that criteria then it goes to their carstore instead. It's also possible that someone from the motor trade bought it before the dealer took photos and prepped it for resale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭User1998


    Its the same in the UK you see a lot of really low mileage perfect condition cars being sent to the auctions by main dealers of all makes, I always wondered why they don’t retail them themselves. I guess they just don’t have the time/resources to retail every single eligible car and it’s probably the same here


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    Bought my 530 off them. Nice lads to deal with.

    Is it the same bmw warranty as you get from main dealer or just standard? I expect standard but I never asked

    Thansk


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    To get the BMW used car warranty you have to buy from the BMW dealership.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    bazz26 wrote: »
    To get the BMW used car warranty you have to buy from the BMW dealership.

    As i expected, thanks....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    User1998 wrote: »
    Its the same in the UK you see a lot of really low mileage perfect condition cars being sent to the auctions by main dealers of all makes, I always wondered why they don’t retail them themselves. I guess they just don’t have the time/resources to retail every single eligible car and it’s probably the same here

    I was at Frank Keane, it was rammed and they had very few “older” cars

    I guess they don’t want sellers caught up with a 40k car when they can be selling an 80k car


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Gorgeousgeorge


    ineedeuro wrote: »
    Is it the same bmw warranty as you get from main dealer or just standard? I expect standard but I never asked

    Thansk

    Got a full years warranty think its just the standard one though id have to look through the paperwork


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    Got a full years warranty think its just the standard one though id have to look through the paperwork

    It's standard, thanks for response.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Water2626262


    I doubt it’s the same warranty. All these used outlets seem to use mapfre and the likes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 claire75


    Avoid at all costs they don’t have their own mechanic

    cars are not properly serviced before being sold

    after sales is shocking

    badly managed


    it’s a shame cos the other frank Keane garages seem to have a good rep



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    New reg, first post used to slate a business?

    Wonder which competitor out Naas Road way "Claire" works for?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 claire75


    Actually don’t work for any competitor but have a feeling you may work for Frank Keane just the unfortunate experience of purchasing a heap of **** from this garage and that’s a professional mechanics opinion not just mine check to see do they have their own mechanic before trying to say I’m just slating them for no reason I’ve the pictures to prove they don’t do a full service on cars



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    Post the pics...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Is Windsor motormall a similar idea?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Is Lionel Richie on boards.ie now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 claire75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    Yes Windsor is a lower cost version of Windsor, you don’t get discount like you would in a standard Windsor and they sell all sort, Stephen was the manager and I bought a few cars off him. At that stage he was bringing in via the UK, not sure if he still is



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    Bought a BMW X5 last year from them, I followed the full history in detail. It was bought and traded in via Frank Keane, I had a chat with Frabk Keane and because the owner had used non BMW garages to service it they wouldn’t resell themselves and pushing down to Bluegate.

    Now it had a few body dents, alloys needed some work and the “professional valet” was awful but the car was perfect and I got a 12 month warranty.

    It seems that a lot of the stock they get, or someone trades in an older/high mileage car to Frank Keane they get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    How is it a heap of s**t if all the issue is a CV boot? If that’s all that’s wrong your mechanic is telling you a few porkies



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 claire75


    It wasn’t just that it was the cv boot spark plus oil and filters wheel bearing cracks alloys



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    So they didn't service it. Plus I know a couple of mechanics who will always say you need a service even if just done.

    The wheel bearing is probably from the cracked CV joint?

    Not sure what alloys mean? but you can see yourself if an alloy is good/bad

    All of the above would not suggest to me the car is a "heap of s**t" and if a mechanic is saying that he isn't much of a mechanic. You have a 12 month warranty and I expect they would be covered. P.S. I was aware they didn't have a mechanic onsite, they actually used Frank Keanes ones for mine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 claire75


    Yep you’re lucky so they took the car back and they didn’t service it in a Frank Keane garage they use a garage in broomhill off the greenhills rd for servicing I’m not saying all their cars are **** but def wouldn’t go near them again it’s a Mickey Mouse set up



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 paulo1976


    I know this topic is quite old but i have to agree with some comments. About 4 weeks ago i bought a Kia Sportage at Bluegate Carstore. It didn't start well because it was delayed for a week to refurbish the alloys, full service, NCT and full valet. I was told be the seller that car was leaving the dealer as new condition inside and out. I scheduled the collection one week later but on that day it was lashing rain and all I sow in the car looked good, couldn't inspect car properly but coming from such reputable garage i trust them. On my way down from Dublin to Cork about 40mnts later the car broke down. Called them straightaway but because the car was drivable they asked me to bring the car to a mechanic i trust to put on computer since engine light was on. Car broke down 3 more times before i got home. Next day drove car to mechanic and was told that it should be diesel filter, pump or something else...and asked me if car was serviced. I respond to him , i think so, hence reason I waited 1 week more. 1 mnt later he brought me the air filter completely filthy. Meantime i got home and told a friend of mine what have happened. When he opened the bonnet i was in shock with what I sow. Everything completely filthy, oil, dear God, coolant completely black, injector leaking, and everything else...i have no words to describe what i sow. Seller told me that he got a €900 bill from the garage where they do service and valet, so i will assume they have no mechanics onsite. After checking everything, valet was miserable done, with straw on the place where is the spare tyre, plastic bag on the place where you put your seat belt, liquids on the side of the leather seats, etc, etc, etc... not even the touch screen on the radio was working. All this started on March 1st and I only got my money back last Monday 27/03/2023!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 paulo1976


    Of course i have all documented in photos and videos.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,318 ✭✭✭Miscreant


    If the seller in Bluegate had a receipt of €900 for repairs, then the issue is between them and whomever did the work. You were sold a car that was not fit for purpose, had it brought back to the dealer and got a refund about 3 weeks later? All in all, it sounds like they resolved the issue for you... Or have I read this completely wrong?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭User1998


    Although it was unprofessional and a big waste of time, a full refund for a used car within 3 weeks of purchase for is a good outcome. Seems like they have decent customer service



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭goochy


    Still not great though . Thought MG garage would have workshop .



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