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Amount of Cartridges on FCA1 form

  • 21-05-2021 7:21pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 31 Paddy Mc Ginn
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    I turned in my firearms application today. I applied for 500 cartridges as I intend to do Hunting and private Clay bird shooting with other gun owners I know. Did I apply for too many cartridges?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭ Asus1
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    I turned in my firearms application today. I applied for 500 cartridges as I intend to do Hunting and private Clay bird shooting with other gun owners I know. Did I apply for too many cartridges?

    I applied for 500 for shotgun and rifle both had hunting as main use, I was never questioned about amounts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭ Feisar
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    I just applied for 1000 for a .22LR, the FO queried it when she rang me, I explained SK do 500 round tins, throw in a few other boxes and yer in that ball park, seems like a lot but isn’t really.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,342 ✭✭✭✭ Grizzly 45
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    Nope.500 is actually a default number of rounds for a firearm under the EU directives of 1991. Something AGS isn't aware of sometimes.:)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 45 geoseeker
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    Yep, I applied and received 1000 x 12g and 1000 x .22WMR, when asked why so many, I replied to get a discount when stocking up.

    It's good to have a good stock but I did choose to buy a separate safe just for the ammo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭ smmember20
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    I turned in my firearms application today. I applied for 500 cartridges as I intend to do Hunting and private Clay bird shooting with other gun owners I know. Did I apply for too many cartridges?

    Guidance to issuing officers in the current edition of the Commissioners Guidelines
    https://www.garda.ie/en/about-us/online-services/firearms-licensing/
    Target Shooting 1,000 Hunting 260 For clay shooting 1,000 would not be unreasonable as this is the number when you purchase you get the best value
    However there is no reason that you cannot apply for any number even 5,000 some target shooters batch test and purchase such volume there is no reason given the reason that the number can be higher.
    However don't be tempted to hold more that you are listed for on your cert, essentially ammo in excess of allowance can be a criminal offence!!!
    From the current Guidelines:
    It should be acknowledged that the amount of ammunition specified in a firearm
    certificate relates to the amount of ammunition that the licensee may possess at anyone
    time. The following ratio of ammunition to purpose may be considered average:
    • Farmer/Farming (one shotgun for vermin/pest control) - Up to 200 rounds.
    • Deer Stalker rifle - Up to 500 rounds.
    • Shotgun for clay pigeon, pheasant/pigeon/woodcock - Up to 750 rounds.
    • Target Shooter (member of authorised club) - Up to 1,000 rounds.

    Note: Maybe considered average but not absolute, so apply for as many as you feel you need for the chosen purpose!


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,555 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Cass
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    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    Nope.500 is actually a default number of rounds for a firearm under the EU directives of 1991. Something AGS isn't aware of sometimes.:)

    Which EU directive?
    Is it in Irish law?
    IF so which act/SI?

    If you're referring to the EU firearms pass then that is a firearms passport, not a license.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭ slavetothegrind
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    there is no default, a guidance document yes, but no default. The super decides what he wants to give you. If you don't like it , you can request a meeting to put your case forward . If no dice court is your next option.
    Most super's seem to be entirely reasonable but some are absolutely not as i know only too well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,210 ✭✭✭✭ BattleCorp
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    I applied for 2000 rounds for the shotgun. Got the licence last week with 1000 rounds on it.


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