Irish Backpacker bailed after stabbing in Australia

hawley

An Irish backpacker who was allegedly involved in a gruesome stabbing of a house guest after a night out has had her bail conditions eased so her mum no longer has to chaperone her to school.
Katie Eileen Murtagh, 26, had been ordered not to leave her house at all without her mum but those provisions were eased in Sydney's Central Local Court on Tuesday so she could attend tourism and travel classes three days a week alone.

But if she wants to go out anywhere other than college, she must be accompanied by her mother at all times, the court ordered.

The 26-year-old and her boyfriend Patrick Earle were arrested on August 29, 2020 after Oliver Solan was found bleeding out in the foyer of their Randwick apartment in Sydney's east.

The alleged victim's ear was partially severed, he had several other stab wounds and his punctured spleen was later removed in surgery.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9589933/Irish-backpacker-Katie-Murtagh-wants-bail-conditions-alleged-Randwick-stabbing.html

She was silly to get involved with her previous boyfriend. She obviously wants to study and improve her life. She has removed any references to him on Facebook and Instagram and has posted powerful, inspirational quotes. She doesn't look like a bad person. I hope that she learns a lesson from this incident.

Mrs OBumble

hawley wrote: »

She doesn't look like a bad person.

Actions speak louder than words, or looks.

Mike Murdock

hawley wrote: »

An Irish backpacker who was allegedly involved in a gruesome stabbing of a house guest after a night out has had her bail conditions eased so her mum no longer has to chaperone her to school.
Katie Eileen Murtagh, 26, had been ordered not to leave her house at all without her mum but those provisions were eased in Sydney's Central Local Court on Tuesday so she could attend tourism and travel classes three days a week alone.

But if she wants to go out anywhere other than college, she must be accompanied by her mother at all times, the court ordered.

The 26-year-old and her boyfriend Patrick Earle were arrested on August 29, 2020 after Oliver Solan was found bleeding out in the foyer of their Randwick apartment in Sydney's east.

The alleged victim's ear was partially severed, he had several other stab wounds and his punctured spleen was later removed in surgery.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9589933/Irish-backpacker-Katie-Murtagh-wants-bail-conditions-alleged-Randwick-stabbing.html

She was silly to get involved with her previous boyfriend. She obviously wants to study and improve her life. She has removed any references to him on Facebook and Instagram and has posted powerful, inspirational quotes. She doesn't look like a bad person. I hope that she learns a lesson from this incident.

2smiggy

not much of a 'backpacker' with her mother over there is she ? Almost if the dailymail needed an excuse to put pictures of a reasonably attractive young lady in bikinis on their website, for the vermin that frequent it to ogle over then attack in the comments section

nullzero

Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy seemed like perfectly nice affable chaps as well.

Dyr

nullzero wrote: »

Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy seemed like perfectly nice affable chaps as well.

They were mentally ill, its a disgrace that they were put through the legal system instead of recieving counselling and hugs. And so on, and so forth

Pauliedragon

The Dog Hotel was my local over there for years. A backpacker can't bring their mother over there with them. DM has some wrong information there.

Hangdogroad

Shes an associate of this piece of sh!t.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/kildare-man-arrested-over-alleged-assaults-in-australia-1.4368702

Floppybits

hawley wrote: »

She has removed any references to him on Facebook and Instagram and has posted powerful, inspirational quotes. She doesn't look like a bad person.

Jaysus she posted poweful and inspirational quotes so she must be alright then. God above. One of the worst things about social media is every Tom, Dick and Harry that spend their day posting those bleedin quotes. :mad:

I wonder if the victim was black would you have a differing opinion of her?

Bobblehats

Hangdogroad wrote: »

Shes an associate of this piece of sh!t.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/kildare-man-arrested-over-alleged-assaults-in-australia-1.4368702

Colin Farrell’s rowdy brother

TomSweeney

Hangdogroad wrote: »

Shes an associate of this piece of sh!t.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/kildare-man-arrested-over-alleged-assaults-in-australia-1.4368702

How dafaq did he get into Australia with that record ??

Get Real

hawley wrote: »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9589933/Irish-backpacker-Katie-Murtagh-wants-bail-conditions-alleged-Randwick-stabbing.html

She doesn't look like a bad person.

Looks like an insta hun who enjoys nights out and the odd bag of sniff to me. (same article also says she's up on drugs charges) We don't know how that's funded either.

And she didn't know her bad boy partner had killed a fella in Ireland? Come off it.

Always find it mad when people involved in such serious crime plaster pictures of themselves all over social media with not a care in the world in the aftermath.

Different Gravy.

Weird journalism. She’s clearly not a backpacker anymore if she ever was. Clearly she’s living permanently enough in Australia. Not that we know her situation exactly because the daily mail hasn’t bothered to find out exactly. She’s in Australia so she must be a backpacker.

Former Former Former

TomSweeney wrote: »

How dafaq did he get into Australia with that record ??

He lied about it

Potential-Monke

2smiggy wrote: »

not much of a 'backpacker' with her mother over there is she ? Almost if the dailymail needed an excuse to put pictures of a reasonably attractive young lady in bikinis on their website, for the vermin that frequent it to ogle over then attack in the comments section

There's bikini pics?

/looks at article before some adblocking popup

Meh. Pure Barbie head on her, I feel like I need to get a tetanus just from looking at her. And no decent person has the ability to randomly stab someone during a dispute.

zanador

What's an alleged victim?

Thanks OP will watch out for her

purifol0

zanador wrote: »

What's an alleged victim?

If there is an altercation and accusation made, a media outlet can't just say who is the victim and who is guilty. Only after a court passes judgement can they call them a victim.


This is especially noticeable in rape case coverage.

purifol0

Anyone know if Ozzy sentencing is much different than most western countries? Over here women get half the jail time for similar crimes as males do, and are jailed in "rooms" as opposed to cells.

Reading up on the psychology of it lately, it's very interesting and its not all biological either. In some jurisdictions prosecutors wouldn't bother taking cases to court because juries wouldn't convict them; even in cases where guilt was not in question because "women don't do those kinds of things".

Guy:Incognito

hawley wrote: »

and has posted powerful, inspirational quotes. .

She should get 10 years for this for a start.

purifol0

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

She should get 10 years for this for a start.

Make it live, laugh, LIFE

TomSweeney

hawley wrote: »

An Irish backpacker who was allegedly involved in a gruesome stabbing of a house guest after a night out has had her bail conditions eased so her mum no longer has to chaperone her to school.
Katie Eileen Murtagh, 26, had been ordered not to leave her house at all without her mum but those provisions were eased in Sydney's Central Local Court on Tuesday so she could attend tourism and travel classes three days a week alone.

But if she wants to go out anywhere other than college, she must be accompanied by her mother at all times, the court ordered.

The 26-year-old and her boyfriend Patrick Earle were arrested on August 29, 2020 after Oliver Solan was found bleeding out in the foyer of their Randwick apartment in Sydney's east.

The alleged victim's ear was partially severed, he had several other stab wounds and his punctured spleen was later removed in surgery.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9589933/Irish-backpacker-Katie-Murtagh-wants-bail-conditions-alleged-Randwick-stabbing.html

She was silly to get involved with her previous boyfriend. She obviously wants to study and improve her life. She has removed any references to him on Facebook and Instagram and has posted powerful, inspirational quotes. She doesn't look like a bad person. I hope that she learns a lesson from this incident.

Are you serious ?



Those "powerful" quotes with a photo of someone that is supposed to have said it (most of the time they haven't, but that doesn't matter to the idiots that post them) - for me are a sign of an absolute f*cking lobotomized moron.

White lighting

Get Real wrote: »

Looks like an insta hun who enjoys nights out and the odd bag of sniff to me. (same article also says she's up on drugs charges) We don't know how that's funded either.

And she didn't know her bad boy partner had killed a fella in Ireland? Come off it.

Her fella didnt kill anyone in Ireland. The lad who killed a fella here was a friend of her or her partner.

flask_fan

I think that Irish people get very harshly treated in Australia. Basically the Australians are always keen to blame foreigners for everything.

White lighting

flask_fan wrote: »

I think that Irish people get very harshly treated in Australia. Basically the Australians are always keen to blame foreigners for everything.

Maybe... I spent a couple of years over there and a high percentage of the Irish are a ****ing embarrassment to be honest.acting like muck savages.

kildare lad

TomSweeney wrote: »

How dafaq did he get into Australia with that record ??

The difference is they'll deport them out after jail unlike here , I know two lads that got deported , one had over stayed his visa , he got into a fight , the cops found out he'd over stayed his visa , he was sent to a detention centre and deported back to Ireland all in the space of 3 weeks unlike here where cases can go on for years , where solictors milk the taxpayers all the way along .

tdf7187

fvp4 wrote: »

Weird journalism. She’s clearly not a backpacker anymore if she ever was. Clearly she’s living permanently enough in Australia. Not that we know her situation exactly because the daily mail hasn’t bothered to find out exactly. She’s in Australia so she must be a backpacker.

It seems that the Australian media shorthand is to refer to Irish immigrants as backpackers regardless of whether they are or aren't, and Irish media copy this.

I actually knew an Irish guy who was murdered by stabbing in Australia (he intervened in a row between two junkies, one produced a knife and stabbed him), media reports at the time referred to the case as "Irish backpacker stabbed in Australia". This wasn't today or yesterday, it was 25 years ago.

tdf7187

White lighting wrote: »

Maybe... I spent a couple of years over there and a high percentage of the Irish are a ****ing embarrassment to be honest.acting like muck savages.

My impression is similar, Australian media and society is somewhat prejudiced against the Irish but the prejudice didn't come from nowhere, a certain % of the Irish act like scum and give the rest a bad name.

Ms. Newbie18

hawley wrote: »

An Irish backpacker who was allegedly involved in a gruesome stabbing of a house guest after a night out has had her bail conditions eased so her mum no longer has to chaperone her to school.
Katie Eileen Murtagh, 26, had been ordered not to leave her house at all without her mum but those provisions were eased in Sydney's Central Local Court on Tuesday so she could attend tourism and travel classes three days a week alone.

But if she wants to go out anywhere other than college, she must be accompanied by her mother at all times, the court ordered.

The 26-year-old and her boyfriend Patrick Earle were arrested on August 29, 2020 after Oliver Solan was found bleeding out in the foyer of their Randwick apartment in Sydney's east.

The alleged victim's ear was partially severed, he had several other stab wounds and his punctured spleen was later removed in surgery.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9589933/Irish-backpacker-Katie-Murtagh-wants-bail-conditions-alleged-Randwick-stabbing.html

She was silly to get involved with her previous boyfriend. She obviously wants to study and improve her life. She has removed any references to him on Facebook and Instagram and has posted powerful, inspirational quotes. She doesn't look like a bad person. I hope that she learns a lesson from this incident.

Backpacker but she lives there with her mother and goes to college there? Daily mail with cracking reporting yet again...

White lighting

Ms. Newbie18 wrote: »

Backpacker but she lives there with her mother and goes to college there? Daily mail with cracking reporting yet again...

May not be the case here but plenty of Irish sign up to college over there as a way of obtaining an extra Visa. Her mother may have moved over when she was charged as a way of her getting bail. Maybe I missed where it said her family live over in Australia full time.
The pics on her social media around the time she was charged looked like she was living a backpacker lifestyle.

Former Former Former

Ms. Newbie18 wrote: »

Backpacker but she lives there with her mother and goes to college there? Daily mail with cracking reporting yet again...

I'm not sure she's "living there" - she's on bail accused of very serious crimes and cannot leave the jurisdiction, not quite the same.

mandrake04

flask_fan wrote: »

I think that Irish people get very harshly treated in Australia. Basically the Australians are always keen to blame foreigners for everything.

White lighting wrote: »

Maybe... I spent a couple of years over there and a high percentage of the Irish are a ****ing embarrassment to be honest.acting like muck savages.

I have lived in Sydney for 16 years never had a problem, most issues that you see in the media involving Irish people 9/10 is drink related do a search wither it be Fights, criminal damage, drownings, accidents etc drink has played a part.

mandrake04

White lighting wrote: »

May not be the case here but plenty of Irish sign up to college over there as a way of obtaining an extra Visa. Her mother may have moved over when she was charged as a way of her getting bail. Maybe I missed where it said her family live over in Australia full time.
The pics on her social media around the time she was charged looked like she was living a backpacker lifestyle.

Student visas allow work of 40 hrs per fortnight, for many Irish people who have already used their working holiday visa its the only option to stay on.

Usually in court matters you get a Justice visa that allows you the same work rights and restrictions as your previous visa, if she didn't adhere to the restrictions she would probably go into remand.

JP Liz V1

White lighting wrote: »

Her fella didnt kill anyone in Ireland. The lad who killed a fella here was a friend of her or her partner.

Farrell was charged with manslaughter here got 3 and 1/2 years

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Ireland well shot of her and her ilk. We've offloaded a lot of our degenerates on the Aussies in the last 10 or 15 years.

Wanderer78

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Ireland well shot of her and her ilk. We've offloaded a lot of our degenerates on the Aussies in the last 10 or 15 years.

I'd say there's a good chance they left on their own accord tbh

Lillyfae

mandrake04 wrote: »

I have lived in Sydney for 16 years never had a problem, most issues that you see in the media involving Irish people 9/10 is drink related do a search wither it be Fights, criminal damage, drownings, accidents etc drink has played a part.

So it's ok if it's drink related

The problem with Irish in Sydney is greatly exasperated back here. Sure a couple of horror stories have made the news but 99% of the Irish folk over there are just getting on with it and earning a few bob.

Irish business people and workers are making a great contribution to their infrastructure projects.

HBC08

hawley wrote: »

An Irish backpacker who was allegedly involved in a gruesome stabbing of a house guest after a night out has had her bail conditions eased so her mum no longer has to chaperone her to school.
Katie Eileen Murtagh, 26, had been ordered not to leave her house at all without her mum but those provisions were eased in Sydney's Central Local Court on Tuesday so she could attend tourism and travel classes three days a week alone.

But if she wants to go out anywhere other than college, she must be accompanied by her mother at all times, the court ordered.

The 26-year-old and her boyfriend Patrick Earle were arrested on August 29, 2020 after Oliver Solan was found bleeding out in the foyer of their Randwick apartment in Sydney's east.

The alleged victim's ear was partially severed, he had several other stab wounds and his punctured spleen was later removed in surgery.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9589933/Irish-backpacker-Katie-Murtagh-wants-bail-conditions-alleged-Randwick-stabbing.html

She was silly to get involved with her previous boyfriend. She obviously wants to study and improve her life. She has removed any references to him on Facebook and Instagram and has posted powerful, inspirational quotes. She doesn't look like a bad person. I hope that she learns a lesson from this incident.

Haha! I was reading this and think what a scumbag.I remember reading a bit about the case at the time and seeing some cctv,shocking and I hope she gets what's coming to her.
However now that it's confirmed she's posting "inspirational quotes " on fb ive completely seen the light of her gentle soul.

HBC08

flask_fan wrote: »

I think that Irish people get very harshly treated in Australia. Basically the Australians are always keen to blame foreigners for everything.

Yes the law is actually applied over there and this is a shock to a lot of Irish who have no concept of consequences.

flask_fan

flask_fan wrote: »

I think that Irish people get very harshly treated in Australia. Basically the Australians are always keen to blame foreigners for everything.

No they aren't.

kildare lad

HBC08 wrote: »

Haha! I was reading this and think what a scumbag.I remember reading a bit about the case at the time and seeing some cctv,shocking and I hope she gets what's coming to her.
However now that it's confirmed she's posting "inspirational quotes " on fb ive completely seen the light of her gentle soul.

I wonder will her defence lawyer used that in court

" She may have been involved in the murder of this young man, Your Honour, but please be lenient as she's really a kind and considerate person as you can see by her inspirational quotes on Facebook."

mandrake04

Lillyfae wrote: »

So it's ok if it's drink related

No one said it was ok, I'm just saying that the majority of incidents reported in the media embarrassingly involve drink and not simply just blaming the foreigner.

Lillyfae

mandrake04 wrote: »

No one said it was ok, I'm just saying that the majority of incidents reported in the media embarrassingly involve drink and not simply just blaming the foreigner.

Of course it's not blaming the foreigner- if Irish people in Australia are a nuisance, alcohol intake involved or not, they should absolutely be called out there. If an abnormal amount of Irish people are out to cause trouble then unfortunately the Irish people are the problem, not the drink.

mandrake04

Lillyfae wrote: »

Of course it's not blaming the foreigner- if Irish people in Australia are a nuisance, alcohol intake involved or not, they should absolutely be called out there. If an abnormal amount of Irish people are out to cause trouble then unfortunately the Irish people are the problem, not the drink.

I think most Irish people who actually live in Australia are very normal, even the majority of those that come on Working Holiday visa have a good holiday.

But there definitely are bunch clowns who just go mad on the drink or are simply just cunts to begin with and think they can do what they want.

I have friend who is a cop in the Eastern Suburbs and he used to deal with these idiots, he said they kept calling him Guard... he thought they were referring him to as a security guard. I had to explain to him about AGS are called Guards and basically a push over so these idiots are not used to no nonsense Police.

LillySV

mandrake04 wrote: »

I have lived in Sydney for 16 years never had a problem, most issues that you see in the media involving Irish people 9/10 is drink related do a search wither it be Fights, criminal damage, drownings, accidents etc drink has played a part.

Loads of decent people go out drinking yet don’t fight or get arrested ....blame drink all ya want ... but of someone’s scum then they’re scum... simple as that

And on that note I know many a local scumbag who is currently over there ... hope they get some manners out on them over there

mandrake04

LillySV wrote: »

Loads of decent people go out drinking yet don’t fight or get arrested ....blame drink all ya want ... but of someone’s scum then they’re scum... simple as that

And on that note I know many a local scumbag who is currently over there ... hope they get some manners out on them over there

I'm not blaming the drink or using it as an excuse, I'm just saying whenever any of these incidents happen 9/10 drink is involved.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8754369/Irish-tradies-CLEARED-murdering-homeless-pensioner-booted-Sydney-pub.html

https://www.thejournal.ie/sydney-emigrants-rubbish-%E2%80%98fighting-irish%E2%80%99-news-reports-67255-Jan2011/

https://www.thejournal.ie/irish-abroad-attack-australia-1284495-Jan2014/

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/irishwoman-jailed-in-sydney-for-stabbing-fiance-to-death-1.3728592

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/dec/22/brendan-hickey-drowning-inquest-finds-vivid-festival-risk-assessment-flawed

LillySV

mandrake04 wrote: »

I'm not blaming the drink or using it as an excuse, I'm just saying whenever any of these incidents happen 9/10 drink is involved.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8754369/Irish-tradies-CLEARED-murdering-homeless-pensioner-booted-Sydney-pub.html

https://www.thejournal.ie/sydney-emigrants-rubbish-%E2%80%98fighting-irish%E2%80%99-news-reports-67255-Jan2011/

https://www.thejournal.ie/irish-abroad-attack-australia-1284495-Jan2014/

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/irishwoman-jailed-in-sydney-for-stabbing-fiance-to-death-1.3728592

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/dec/22/brendan-hickey-drowning-inquest-finds-vivid-festival-risk-assessment-flawed

And I know that If I went out this weekend and had a feed of beer, I won’t go fighting or stabbing anyone as I was raised right and not scum.

Anyone who kills another person should get the chair by the way , not have their responsibility for carrying out such an act reduced by blaming factors such as drink.

flask_fan

Lillyfae wrote: »

Of course it's not blaming the foreigner- if Irish people in Australia are a nuisance, alcohol intake involved or not, they should absolutely be called out there. If an abnormal amount of Irish people are out to cause trouble then unfortunately the Irish people are the problem, not the drink.

I wouldn't think so.


I would guess that 9 times out of 10 it's the Australian who is out to cause trouble.