Garda Staff - Removal from Civil Service

Turtyturd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120664624#Comment_120664624

Are the civilian staff represented by the Garda Unions?

If they are it would explain the lack of f*cks given. Similar situation in the prison service where the POA represents the admin staff and they effectively have no union.

Hotblack Desiato

No they're represented by Forsa.

Gardai and Defence Forces are not allowed to join unions, they have 'representative associations'.

liverrule

Hi Guys , does this look like it's definitely going through? I have an interview for one of the professional finance grades coming up and considering not doing it as I wanted to stay in civil service (prospect of career breaks etc) seperately I've heard that Garda civilian staff aren't treated that well? Although I appreciate it's probably a large organisation so it depends where you fall. Thanks

Josey Wales

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120693297#Comment_120693297

Can't say for 100% but it certainly looks like it is. There has been some Union meetings recently and the fact that civil servants are leaving the organisation and citing this as a reason doesn't seem to be making any impact.

TheDavester

any word on has the mobility freeze being lifted in AGS

TheDavester

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120710325#Comment_120710325

theyve frozen the mobility so it stopped a bit of the departures for now

Josey Wales

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120711223#Comment_120711223

I believe the freeze on CO mobility will be lifted in July, so expect to see a lot of movement at that grade.

Curiousity20

Decision on freeze next week wonder will it be lifted.

Calmcookie84

Does anyone know what's happening with the Mobility freeze?

Lemon Davis lll

Freeze was lifted today according to Navan

Colleagues had notification email from NSSO pre 3pm today but I'm yet to receive mine

Calmcookie84

I'm looking to get back into the Guards. I used to work there two years ago and loved it.

Does the lifting of the freeze effect people looking to get into the guards?

I have applied through Mobility and still have a few months until I am eligible.

Lemon Davis lll

The embargo on mobility only effected CO's looking to exit AGS

Due to the imminent passing of the Policing Bill (and the eventual loss of Civil Service status for civilians within the organisation) they're experiencing quite the exodus and finding those in the know on recruitment panels are turning down offers from AGS - For fear of losing family friendly policies / losing flexi and being subject to GSOC oversight / shift pattern working etc

Lynnington3

I thought there was a deal that current staff members won’t have any changes to their contracts and the new bill only applies to new incoming staff ?

Lemon Davis lll

No, there's a qualification in from the Commissioner and Dept of Justice which says changes to existing terms and conditions of personnel in situ will only happen following meaningful engagement with staff unions.

That's far from a guarantee that only new recruits will not be employed as civil servants.

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120817063#Comment_120817063

You are presumably aware of the dreadful effect this will have on your career prospects?