End of Sudocreme in Ireland

whisky_galore

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thejournal.ie/sudocrem-ireland-5430845-May2021/%3famp=1

New addition to the list of Irish but not really Irish products who have moved production overseas.

Sounds like a rash decision.

callaway92

Out with Sudocrem and in with Krispy Kreme imo

Allinall

That's minimum wage for you.

begbysback

I always thought sudocream tasted awful, can’t see how it was so popular

KevRossi

Strange company. I used to send jars of it abroad to friends in Germany and France when they had babies, it's absolute wonder stuff and you can't get it's equivalent anywhere. They missed out a huge trick on marketing over the past few decades.

French Toast

Sudoсметана

Car99

KevRossi wrote: »

Strange company. I used to send jars of it abroad to friends in Germany and France when they had babies, it's absolute wonder stuff and you can't get it's equivalent anywhere. They missed out a huge trick on marketing over the past few decades.

It is good stuff. Are they ceasing production or just moving production?

CageWager

That decision really chaps my ass

Car99

Car99 wrote: »

It is good stuff. Are they ceasing production or just moving production?

Moving production to Bulgaria.

biko

Sudocrem won't be made in Ireland after 2023 as production moves to Bulgaria

I didn't even know it was made here.

ongarite

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Moving production to Bulgaria.

One thing mentioned is that the current plant is too small & has no room for a expansion.
A new greenfield site in Ireland would make no sense if capacity is already available in Bulgaria.

HeidiHeidi

I only heard relatively recently that it was made here - but I'd say there isn't a single person in Ireland who doesn't know the brand!


And as far as I know, the packaging hasn't been updated since I was a child in nappies (presumably) using it.... that in itself has to be very unusual.


Same situation with Dubarry moving its production from Ballinasloe to Poland a few years ago.

WrenBoy

Will this have an impact on quality ye reckon ?

Larbre34

ongarite wrote: »

One thing mentioned is that the current plant is too small & has no room for a expansion.
A new greenfield site in Ireland would make no sense if capacity is already available in Bulgaria.

Yes it would. I'd say the IDA could have a suitable site in the same catchment identified for them in about 10 minutes flat. They didn't even ****ing try.

Its pure unadulterated greed, simple as, no ifs ands or buts. I hope they fail in Bulgaria and fail badly.

McMurphy

Madonna is a fan too.

Grandeeod

Larbre34 wrote: »

Yes it would. I'd say the IDA could have a suitable site in the same catchment identified for them in about 10 minutes flat. They didn't even ****ing try.

Its pure unadulterated greed, simple as, no ifs ands or buts. I hope they fail in Bulgaria and fail badly.

My sentiments entirely. Another Irish brand sent abroad after it couldn't even retain Irish owners. Irish Biscuits was another example. Sold to Danone in the early 90s and then carved up until what was one of the biggest biscuit factories in Europe at Tallaght was closed down. That's Paddy for ya. Sell out to the highest bidder from abroad and we wonder why our economy is so reliant on FDI and the multinationals.:rolleyes:

Hurrache

KevRossi wrote: »

They missed out a huge trick on marketing over the past few decades.

They've had a few celebs and 'influencers' rave about it on their associated social media accounts over the years.

Del.Monte

biko wrote: »

I didn't even know it was made here.

You mustn't listen to much radio? They've been running a campaign going on about how every year all 35/40 millions jars (plastic) are made in Baldoyle. All I think of, and I know how useful the stuff is, is their plastic tubs are an environmental disaster as anybody who ever tried to wash an empty one will know.

EddieN75

Larbre34 wrote: »

Yes it would. I'd say the IDA could have a suitable site in the same catchment identified for them in about 10 minutes flat. They didn't even ****ing try.

Its pure unadulterated greed, simple as, no ifs ands or buts. I hope they fail in Bulgaria and fail badly.

Business looking to improve profitability. Those bastards!

They are dead right. Ireland is too expensive and becoming less competitive

shtpEdthePlum

McMurphy wrote: »

Madonna is a fan too.

...

Gross

Deise Vu

EddieN75 wrote: »

Business looking to improve profitability. Those bastards!

They are dead right. Ireland is too expensive and becoming less competitive

Exactly what do you do yourself that insulates you from random acts of globalization vandalism such as this?

I worked in that plant and I can assure you that they are a very dedicated hard working bunch, the vast majority on basic industrial wages but there was never any agitation despite the fact that the profit was a significant multiple of their wages.

Shifting production to Bulgaria will only add a few percentage points to the profit but will be devastating for many of the workers. This is a disgusting decision which might even backfire if the Bulgarians make a hash of it. But I’m sure some higher ups will give themselves a massive bonus for taking the “tough” decisions that have zero effect on them personally.

I hope the sun keeps shining on you and your indifference to the suffering of people whose circumstances you have no clue about.

Mrs OBumble

Deise Vu wrote: »

Exactly what do you do yourself that insulates you from random acts of globalization vandalism such as this?

I worked in that plant and I can assure you that they are a very dedicated hard working bunch, the vast majority on basic industrial wages but there was never any agitation despite the fact that the profit was a significant multiple of their wages.

Shifting production to Bulgaria will only add a few percentage points to the profit but will be devastating for many of the workers. This is a disgusting decision which might even backfire if the Bulgarians make a hash of it.

Equally, there are some unemployed Bulgarians who will be very happy to get jobs. I don't see them as any more or less important than Irish people.

I worked for a multinational and was in Bulgaria for a fair bit of time in the office there (being paid in Ireland) and my partner is from there. Just to give an idea of the kind of money we're talking about here. I would have been on about €2500 a month at the time. Colleague's over there doing the same work with same experience and education were on about 1600 leva a month which would have been considered decent money and a step up from what their parents and many others were earning but that only worked out at about €800 pm. and no factory worker is taking home that kind of money in BG.

whisky_galore

Grandeeod wrote: »

My sentiments entirely. Another Irish brand sent abroad after it couldn't even retain Irish owners. Irish Biscuits was another example. Sold to Danone in the early 90s and then carved up until what was one of the biggest biscuit factories in Europe at Tallaght was closed down. That's Paddy for ya. Sell out to the highest bidder from abroad and we wonder why our economy is so reliant on FDI and the multinationals.:rolleyes:

The hilariously named Old Time Irish Marmalade (not Irish)
Siuicre aka Nordzucker.
Jacob's Biscuits (produced in a number of European countries, but not this one)
HB ice cream, made by conglomerate Unilever in the uk.

Montage of Feck

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Equally, there are some unemployed Bulgarians who will be very happy to get jobs. I don't see them as any more or less important than Irish people.

I would rather see my fellow countrymen do well first though not that I have any ill will for the Bulgarians. This was a quality product developed and manufactured in ireland to the highest standards, it's brand name is now being pillaged for the sake of increased profits.

Jellybaby_1

I have regularly asked if Ireland actually manufactures anything much any more, in particular our essentials? Does anyone know? It became very apparent with the onset of Brexit everyone was wondering if we could still get the same products. Then when the pandemic hit there were shortages and I know it was mainly panic buying, but I wonder if mammy Ireland can actually look after us anymore! Just a short walk around the supermarket will tell you where most of our products and vegetables come from.

bfa1509

McMurphy wrote: »

Madonna is a fan too.

That's her can of 100% botox

Montage of Feck

Jellybaby_1 wrote: »

I have regularly asked if Ireland actually manufactures anything much any more, in particular our essentials? Does anyone know? It became very apparent with the onset of Brexit everyone was wondering if we could still get the same products. Then when the pandemic hit there were shortages and I know it was mainly panic buying, but I wonder if mammy Ireland can actually look after us anymore! Just a short walk around the supermarket will tell you where most of our products and vegetables come from.

We have spuds and various edible creatures, we'll be grand.

odyssey06

Jellybaby_1 wrote: »

I have regularly asked if Ireland actually manufactures anything much any more, in particular our essentials? Does anyone know? It became very apparent with the onset of Brexit everyone was wondering if we could still get the same products. Then when the pandemic hit there were shortages and I know it was mainly panic buying, but I wonder if mammy Ireland can actually look after us anymore! Just a short walk around the supermarket will tell you where most of our products and vegetables come from.

It has been hundreds of years since a country of Ireland's size could look after itself.
Wasn't even a viable strategy in the 1930s and 1940s here.
Makes more sense for us to specialise in dairy, beef and export that and import fruits and vegetables.

Larbre34

EddieN75 wrote: »

Business looking to improve profitability. Those bastards!

They are dead right. Ireland is too expensive and becoming less competitive

If that's the case they'd be shutting up shop in Waterford too, its just the sudocrem operation probably isn't as technical so they're looking to increase margin in Bulgaria.

These are the same ****s with radio ads running the last year or more "do you know all the Sudocrem used in the World is made right here in Dublin?" **** off.

Its a great Irish brand it shouldn't be surrendered so easily. Teva only bought Tosara in 2016, they should be aggressively pushed to sell it again and piss off.

Glazers out!!

Dtp1979

I know how it’s spelled but am I the only one who calls it sudocream?

StupidLikeAFox

bfa1509 wrote: »

That's her can of 100% botox

At least that is still made in ireland (for now)

StupidLikeAFox

Montage of Feck wrote: »

I would rather see my fellow countrymen do well first though not that I have any ill will for the Bulgarians. This was a quality product developed and manufactured in ireland to the highest standards, it's brand name is now being pillaged for the sake of increased profits.

Its a fair point, sad to see this go. But ireland has benefitted hugely from globalisation - through the 50s and 60s it was through manufacturing/assembly. Now its more higher tech stuff like pharmaceuticals and tech. Its not much comfort to those who lost their jobs today, but you have to take the good with the bad in a globalised economy

Larbre34

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I know how it’s spelled but am I the only one who calls it sudocream?

No, every calls it soo-doh-cream. Or they should anyway, its taken from soothing cream.

branie2

Anyone feeling sore about it?

Larbre34

branie2 wrote: »

Anyone feeling sore about it?

Butt hurt.

OneEightSeven

I put Sudocrem in my brother's Brylcreem one evening. It's a thicker substance, so I put it on the radiator to melt it slightly and then mixed it in. I'm still in primary school and he's in secondary school, so he gets up for school 40 minutes before me. The next morning I wake up to a load of commotion, my mother busts into my room giving out stink and my brother had to wash his hair out under a tap and make it to school in time.

osarusan

Wikipedia says that the Sudocrem name came from the Dublin pronunciation of 'soothing cream'.

'Soodin' cream'. That's funny if true.

forumdedum

Deleted User wrote: »

Moving production to Bulgaria.

A new spot

cgcsb

I had to laugh they had some englishman bargain basement looking ceo type on the news saying they had to move to Bulgaria because their site here was too small. While also in the same breath saying they had a much larger operation in Waterford. And never mind the fact if you really needed a new site for industrial jobs in this country, the Ida would basically hand you one for nothing.

Why not just be honest and say you want to get bigger profits by slashing workers wages and only way you can do that is move somewhere that has high unemployment and low wages.

whisky_galore

odyssey06 wrote: »

It has been hundreds of years since a country of Ireland's size could look after itself.
Wasn't even a viable strategy in the 1930s and 1940s here.
Makes more sense for us to specialise in dairy, beef and export that and import fruits and vegetables.

All well and good until changing tastes, environmental concerns and countries that may compete to produce those cheaper begin to chip away at that. No sense putting all your eggs in the one basket.
Let's not depend on FDIs either, they'll happily bugger off overseas when it doesn't suit them here anymore.

Darc19

KevRossi wrote: »

Strange company. I used to send jars of it abroad to friends in Germany and France when they had babies, it's absolute wonder stuff and you can't get it's equivalent anywhere. They missed out a huge trick on marketing over the past few decades.

How?

They are moving because they simply cannot produce enough and no room for expansion.

The Bulgarian facility has the capacity to double output.


I blame Madonna. Ever since she endorsed it, sales have skyrocketed

Darc19

Jellybaby_1 wrote: »

I have regularly asked if Ireland actually manufactures anything much any more, in particular our essentials? Does anyone know? It became very apparent with the onset of Brexit everyone was wondering if we could still get the same products. Then when the pandemic hit there were shortages and I know it was mainly panic buying, but I wonder if mammy Ireland can actually look after us anymore! Just a short walk around the supermarket will tell you where most of our products and vegetables come from.

Walk around a pharmacy dispensing room anywhere in Europe and you will see made in Ireland on a huge number of products.

Horses for courses.

Medicines are high value and easily transportable, thus an island nation is not disadvantaged.

Food is bulky, low value, thus transport costs are high per unit value