Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Indestructable

This farce should be enough to collapse a Government. It won't, but it should.

Murph85

These morons on government are the ones putting nphet in the spotlight and towing their line, sick of their abdication of responsibility... come the next election, can we vote for the civil servants running the country instead of these spineless puppets?

Murph85

funnydoggy wrote: »

When is the announcement does anyone know?

The next two weeks are crucial... and the next 52 after that will be too...

Daniel son

What a backward little country, led by a pathetic cowardly shower hiding behind General Tony

MOH

Stheno wrote: »

I don't think anyone expected what NPHET came out with

If the NPHET recommendations came totally out of the blue to the government, that's a pretty incompetent failure of communication between two groups who've been working together for 15 months.

Of course, that's assuming all this isn't just political cover for the government once again not willing to make a decision. Now it's "We're opening indoor hospitality! But we just need two weeks to get the whole vaccine cert thing planned, so unfortunately we can't go ahead on Monday even though we really want to". And now people are getting more annoyed about the vaccine cert than the delay in reopening.

Then in two weeks time, it'll either be "oh now we realise two weeks was a bit ambitious for the vaccine cert thing so we're delaying another month", or "we've looked at things again and now we think we can open without the vaccine cert".

If the latter, then they'll expect people to be grateful that they're not introducing the vaccine cert restriction, and forget that in reality they'll have just implemented the two week deferral they wanted but didn't have the political balls to admit.

theballz

RobitTV wrote: »

This is the end of Fianna Fail. They have completely alienated their traditional voter base and the party is close to collapse. No small business owner in rural Ireland will vote for them again. They are completely and utterly toast.

It's over for Michael Martin.

Why make this political?

TomTomTim

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Someone should remind them that they actually run the country and are not obliged to do whatever NPHET tell them.

I suppose that would make it harder to throw NPHET under the bus when it comes to the inevitable tribunal though.

We really need to go back to the true spirit of democracy, which is a nation ran for the people, not the politician. They are meant to be our servants not our masters. If the people don't support this, then they have no mandate to do any of it.

Beechwoodspark

Sobit1964 wrote: »

People who oppose summer restrictions due to the seasonal nature of Covid are called conspiracy theorists around these parts :rolleyes:

No I mean once we hit autumn we will have the seasonal aspect to contend with

NIMAN

There was a thread on here called "Don't be a boiling frog...." and I always thought it was for people who were nutters who were anti-everything.

Starting to look like they might have been on to something after all.

growleaves

Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

I tell ye this much, the presser later today with the three musketeers (possibly 4 is Stephen Donnelly crawls out of his cave) will be something else.

Or will they all weasel out of it? Wouldn't be surprised. Incidentally when's the next NPHET presser?

Donnelly is D'Artagnan

stephenjmcd

Absolutely fantastic.... fantastically funny really

https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1409834351064403968?s=20

namloc1980

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Absolutely fantastic.... fantastically funny really

https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1409834351064403968?s=20

Would they ever fook off. Honestly.

stephenjmcd

namloc1980 wrote: »

Would they ever fook off. Honestly.

Sure it won't matter. They can advise all they want

RobitTV

theballz wrote: »

Why make this political?

Is this government beyond criticism?

They have been jumping from one disaster to the next. They aren't leaders. Fianna Fail is finished because of this crisis. Fine Gael will survive sadly.

Quags

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Absolutely fantastic.... fantastically funny really

https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1409834351064403968?s=20

Sometimes I think NPHET think of the best ways to wind people up

normanoffside

I'm not sure what planet our leaders are living in if they think this is good news.

https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1409834929236684804

DylanJM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Absolutely fantastic.... fantastically funny really

https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1409834351064403968?s=20

So we are ok to travel abroad using the green cert and do all the indoor stuff that pretty much every other EU country has but we can't do indoor stuff at home in our own country because there's gonna be an an apocalypse of 700,000 cases. Very cool NPHET.

corcaigh07

RobitTV wrote: »

This is the end of Fianna Fail. They have completely alienated their traditional voter base and the party is close to collapse. No small business owner in rural Ireland will vote for them again. They are completely and utterly toast.

It's over for Michael Martin.

It's not just a FF government, you know?

Jay Pentatonic

So weddings of 50 can happen, but we can't have a meal indoors with just our significant others...okay

Avon8

Indestructable wrote: »

This farce should be enough to collapse a Government. It won't, but it should.

But then what's the alternative? An opposition who have all called for an even greater level of farcical restrictions, and who'll throw the government under the bus if they go against NPHET? Bar a handful of independents, absolutely nobody here can hold their heads up high.

Until we get national consensus from the public, media, government and opposition that NPHET's power needs to be curbed, nothing can be achieved. We have a government that's weak as sin and an opposition who appear even more delusional

RobitTV

corcaigh07 wrote: »

It's not just a FF government, you know?

Yes, but FF will come out of this more wounded. FG will survive as the main 'centre-right' party in the future.

namloc1980

Jay Pentatonic wrote: »

So weddings of 50 can happen, but we can't have a meal indoors with just our significant others...okay

Can't even have one on your own!

sydthebeat

normanoffside wrote: »

I'm not sure what planet our leaders are living in if they think this is good news.

https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1409834929236684804

they are weeks behind as always...... people (especially the elderly) have been doing this since receiving their second jabs

el Fenomeno

Jay Pentatonic wrote: »

So weddings of 50 can happen, but we can't have a meal indoors with just our significant others...okay

Has that actually been confirmed re: 50?

timmyntc

namloc1980 wrote: »

Can't even have one on your own!

You can if its a hotel restaurant!

corcaigh07

What's even worse about this whole thing, where is the ambition to get to a Level 0? It's never even mentioned. We'll be all vaxxed and wearing masks into 2022, it's an absolute farce now.

Large scale protests are the only way our spineless leaders will listen to us.

namloc1980

timmyntc wrote: »

You can if its a hotel restaurant!

Or a wedding. Makes total sense. :rolleyes:

el Fenomeno

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Has that actually been confirmed re: 50?

Reilly reporting it has actually.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1409834165965660166?s=1002

normanoffside

sydthebeat wrote: »

they are weeks behind as always...... people (especially the elderly) have been doing this since receiving their second jabs

Do you think young people and not fully vaccinated people haven't been doing it for months already?
It's complete poppycock and unenforceable anyway.

corcaigh07

RobitTV wrote: »

Yes, but FF will come out of this more wounded. FG will survive as the main 'centre-right' party in the future.

Why should they? If anything, I trust Leo even less than Micheal. MM is incompetent. Leo is incompetent and sneaky.